Worst thing happend a6000

Rather than spending money on insurance (homeowner's or auto ins. may cover after deductible, BTW), consider just taking better care of your valuable equpment.
Dumb advice. The place I was living was broken into a couple of years ago, and my entire DSLR outfit plus MacBook Pro stolen. I got $7200 from the insurance company. I pay ~$500 a year in premiums for business insurance including liability.
 
Rather than spending money on insurance (homeowner's or auto ins. may cover after deductible, BTW), consider just taking better care of your valuable equpment.

Then Euell wrote:

Oh, but it is. The OP believes he may have left the camera in the rental car, but it may be just as likely it was left elsewhere and was not stolen, as he believes, from the rental car.
Why not just write, "I really, really think these people are idiots. Truly."?
We all make mistakes and hopefully learn from them.
 
I did claim in that basis towards my insurance, and i'm not oppering other places?. I know for sure it was in the rental car so there is no point for lying.
 
I did claim in that basis towards my insurance, and i'm not oppering other places?. I know for sure it was in the rental car so there is no point for lying.
Good, because if you were caught in a lie by the insurer, that would constitute a criminal fraud in most countries. Nonetheless, it would not be lying if you honestly believed that the camera was last in the rental car, but that was later proven to be incorrect. I only mention this for the guidance of others.
 
I did claim in that basis towards my insurance, and i'm not oppering other places?. I know for sure it was in the rental car so there is no point for lying.
Good, because if you were caught in a lie by the insurer, that would constitute a criminal fraud in most countries. Nonetheless, it would not be lying if you honestly believed that the camera was last in the rental car, but that was later proven to be incorrect. I only mention this for the guidance of others.
Ah, ok man no problem, i miss understood that.

Maybe i should make a new topic about storage backup for our camera's. It would be great if anyone has some pointers or experience with some of those wireless drives
 
I did claim in that basis towards my insurance, and i'm not oppering other places?. I know for sure it was in the rental car so there is no point for lying.
Good, because if you were caught in a lie by the insurer, that would constitute a criminal fraud in most countries. Nonetheless, it would not be lying if you honestly believed that the camera was last in the rental car, but that was later proven to be incorrect. I only mention this for the guidance of others.
Ah, ok man no problem, i miss understood that.

Maybe i should make a new topic about storage backup for our camera's. It would be great if anyone has some pointers or experience with some of those wireless drives
Better solution: direct tranfer unit powered by rechargeable battery, including but not limited to, Ravpower Filehub used with large capacity flashdrive.
 
Thx, we will get a backup drive, any suggestions?, no way this will be happening again, and yes, we will get insurance fot the whole amount, never gona make this mistake again.

So u'r saying:

Option 1 will be the best for both of us.

Option 2 without the 55-210 will be the best option for me :) but i do like once in awhile the ultra zoom, when u have it, u gonna use it.

Ofcourse i knew this already, i just needed to get my mind of what was lost, looking at the future, best way to solve my needs.

Do u shoot any primes? Which one do u prefer, Do u really need oss? For statics u can pull it 2stops further, which is alot. I never owned a Zeis, and the 24mm (no oss) does perform great, based on pictures and review..
Don't bother with backup drive, just install the free Sony app that wirelessly transfers pictures when you turn the camera off, automatically to an android phone.

https://www.playmemoriescameraapps.com/portal/usbdetail.php?eid=IS9104-NPIA09014_00-F00013

If you have one with a nice big SD card you don't actually have to do anything at all, it just happens. Install flickr app on your phone/tablet and those pictures all go to the cloud too, all automatic, all free, all full resolution...

Yahoo will give you 1tb of free Flickr cloud storage.

If you are unlucky to be lumbered with an apple product, you can do some of this on iPhone, but the app transfer process is not automatic like it is on Android.
The transfer app only transferred jpeg versions of the images when I used it. Are you confirming it will transfer RAW?
 
Two days ago my equipment was stolen on our vacation at Miami Beach, u can imaging we are both deeply disapointed in the word we are living in. We work hard for what we have and want, which is what evryone should do in my opinion.

I,m still here in miami while i'm writhing this post, we have travel insurance but it would not cover all the cost, but we have to get it first, also all our foto's are gone, which Makes it even worse :(.

In the future i will get better insurance for sure, we learned it the hard way, dont make the same mistake. Also make alot of backups, evrey day.

The things we lost was a Sony a6000 with the sel 18-200le(girlfriend most fav), sel 10-18 f4(i loved this lens) together with 3 sony batt and peak design wrist solution, all this in a 1 week old Ona Bowery bag. new: 2500,-

If we get our insurance money back, which would not cover the costs at all, we want it all back ofcourse, we love taking foto's.

Thing that bothered me of this set was the wight of the 18-200le, but my girlfriend loved it beacuase it was very versatile, so did i. The time i bought this lens the Zeis 16-70 F4 was not there yet and i always wanted to know what i would have done if it was there in the first place.

Me, myself personaly like the lower ranges, loved the 10-18 and the F4 Aperture, now my girlfriend hates changing lenses so a 16-70 and a 55-210 haves to be so damn good instead of a sel 18-200le to even consider it. For me, i like the "idea" having the 16-70 F4 Zeis.

The Ona Bowey bag was great and we will get it again, it was a very sort time we had it, but i know for sure it was the 1. because of the bag, we are only allowed to have 3 lenses, 1 on body, 2 right besiade it, which brings me to the next problem.

What we had:

- Sony A6000

- Sony sel 18-200le

- Sony sel 10-18 F4

- in the furture Sel 35F1.8/ Sel 24F1.8 (Problem number 2: OSS vs versatile 24mm)

new setup:

Sony A6000

- Sony Zeis 16-70 F4

- Sony 10-18 F4

- Sony 55-210

- Aint enough room for a prime in this bag, we dont want ir to get any bigger or havier.

What would u guys do?, We both need to like the setup, i already have mine 10-18, but the idea of the 16-70 is killing me. I always told myself i did the right thing with in consideration i would get a pime in the future, which i want for low light shots.
Sorry for your loss. That's very terrible.

I personally don't see why people travel with heavy rigs (yes your stolen rig is too much i think). I'll never travel with a 200mm range lens because i don't see why i should... travel is about capturing most of what you can thus, wide primes are welcome.

I've traveled a lot and my only lens for my NEX F3 was the Sigma 30 ! Very light rig. Now that i have an A7, i though the 24-70 would be a nice addition for travelling but it is heavy and takes a lot of space too, that's why i'm actually thinking of getting the 35mm 2.8 Zeiss !

After all, if you want the reach, get the Rx10 or the Rx100.
 
Maybe i should make a new topic about storage backup for our camera's. It would be great if anyone has some pointers or experience with some of those wireless drives
Yep. That sounds like it might be a good idea.

Someone earlier mentioned using the available Sony app for wireless transfer to a cell phone. In turn that might be used to upload to cloud storage. Still getting up to speed on that myself, but a Sony rep I spoke to a while back explained that's what he does.

Here's the link for Sony's UK website for that and other PlayMemories apps.

Sony UK PlayMemories

(Quick tip if you decide to download any of those apps, set your in camera USB connection to MTP for that purpose.)
 
Two days ago my equipment was stolen on our vacation at Miami Beach, u can imaging we are both deeply disapointed in the word we are living in. We work hard for what we have and want, which is what evryone should do in my opinion.

I,m still here in miami while i'm writhing this post, we have travel insurance but it would not cover all the cost, but we have to get it first, also all our foto's are gone, which Makes it even worse :(.

In the future i will get better insurance for sure, we learned it the hard way, dont make the same mistake. Also make alot of backups, evrey day.

The things we lost was a Sony a6000 with the sel 18-200le(girlfriend most fav), sel 10-18 f4(i loved this lens) together with 3 sony batt and peak design wrist solution, all this in a 1 week old Ona Bowery bag. new: 2500,-

If we get our insurance money back, which would not cover the costs at all, we want it all back ofcourse, we love taking foto's.

Thing that bothered me of this set was the wight of the 18-200le, but my girlfriend loved it beacuase it was very versatile, so did i. The time i bought this lens the Zeis 16-70 F4 was not there yet and i always wanted to know what i would have done if it was there in the first place.

Me, myself personaly like the lower ranges, loved the 10-18 and the F4 Aperture, now my girlfriend hates changing lenses so a 16-70 and a 55-210 haves to be so damn good instead of a sel 18-200le to even consider it. For me, i like the "idea" having the 16-70 F4 Zeis.

The Ona Bowey bag was great and we will get it again, it was a very sort time we had it, but i know for sure it was the 1. because of the bag, we are only allowed to have 3 lenses, 1 on body, 2 right besiade it, which brings me to the next problem.

What we had:

- Sony A6000

- Sony sel 18-200le

- Sony sel 10-18 F4

- in the furture Sel 35F1.8/ Sel 24F1.8 (Problem number 2: OSS vs versatile 24mm)

new setup:

Sony A6000

- Sony Zeis 16-70 F4

- Sony 10-18 F4

- Sony 55-210

- Aint enough room for a prime in this bag, we dont want ir to get any bigger or havier.

What would u guys do?, We both need to like the setup, i already have mine 10-18, but the idea of the 16-70 is killing me. I always told myself i did the right thing with in consideration i would get a pime in the future, which i want for low light shots.
Sorry for your loss. That's very terrible.

I personally don't see why people travel with heavy rigs (yes your stolen rig is too much i think). I'll never travel with a 200mm range lens because i don't see why i should... travel is about capturing most of what you can thus, wide primes are welcome.

I've traveled a lot and my only lens for my NEX F3 was the Sigma 30 ! Very light rig. Now that i have an A7, i though the 24-70 would be a nice addition for travelling but it is heavy and takes a lot of space too, that's why i'm actually thinking of getting the 35mm 2.8 Zeiss !

After all, if you want the reach, get the Rx10 or the Rx100.
I agree with you it is a big rig. I bought the RX100M3 so I could get decent pics at a smaller size and regret it.

Super zooms are hugely popular for travel. You can get 30x zoom with a small sensor that fits in your pocket that takes decent enough pictures, even for printing. On the other side of the spectrum, I see lots of tourists with iPads as their camera (30mm).

I think which focal length you use depends on your shooting style. The 18-200 lives on my a6000 when traveling. At 200mm I can get in tight to get the detail of the top of a steeple that I never could with a wide angle. At 18mm the lens lets me get a good wide shot of a mountain range.
 
Two days ago my equipment was stolen on our vacation at Miami Beach, u can imaging we are both deeply disapointed in the word we are living in. We work hard for what we have and want, which is what evryone should do in my opinion.

I,m still here in miami while i'm writhing this post, we have travel insurance but it would not cover all the cost, but we have to get it first, also all our foto's are gone, which Makes it even worse :(.

In the future i will get better insurance for sure, we learned it the hard way, dont make the same mistake. Also make alot of backups, evrey day.

The things we lost was a Sony a6000 with the sel 18-200le(girlfriend most fav), sel 10-18 f4(i loved this lens) together with 3 sony batt and peak design wrist solution, all this in a 1 week old Ona Bowery bag. new: 2500,-

If we get our insurance money back, which would not cover the costs at all, we want it all back ofcourse, we love taking foto's.

Thing that bothered me of this set was the wight of the 18-200le, but my girlfriend loved it beacuase it was very versatile, so did i. The time i bought this lens the Zeis 16-70 F4 was not there yet and i always wanted to know what i would have done if it was there in the first place.

Me, myself personaly like the lower ranges, loved the 10-18 and the F4 Aperture, now my girlfriend hates changing lenses so a 16-70 and a 55-210 haves to be so damn good instead of a sel 18-200le to even consider it. For me, i like the "idea" having the 16-70 F4 Zeis.

The Ona Bowey bag was great and we will get it again, it was a very sort time we had it, but i know for sure it was the 1. because of the bag, we are only allowed to have 3 lenses, 1 on body, 2 right besiade it, which brings me to the next problem.

What we had:

- Sony A6000

- Sony sel 18-200le

- Sony sel 10-18 F4

- in the furture Sel 35F1.8/ Sel 24F1.8 (Problem number 2: OSS vs versatile 24mm)

new setup:

Sony A6000

- Sony Zeis 16-70 F4

- Sony 10-18 F4

- Sony 55-210

- Aint enough room for a prime in this bag, we dont want ir to get any bigger or havier.

What would u guys do?, We both need to like the setup, i already have mine 10-18, but the idea of the 16-70 is killing me. I always told myself i did the right thing with in consideration i would get a pime in the future, which i want for low light shots.
Sorry for your loss. That's very terrible.

I personally don't see why people travel with heavy rigs (yes your stolen rig is too much i think). I'll never travel with a 200mm range lens because i don't see why i should... travel is about capturing most of what you can thus, wide primes are welcome.

I've traveled a lot and my only lens for my NEX F3 was the Sigma 30 ! Very light rig. Now that i have an A7, i though the 24-70 would be a nice addition for travelling but it is heavy and takes a lot of space too, that's why i'm actually thinking of getting the 35mm 2.8 Zeiss !

After all, if you want the reach, get the Rx10 or the Rx100.
Hmmm, too big? An Ona Bowey bag is to big for your taste. I agree with you that de nex F3 with a small sigma 30mm is alot smaller. I did not find it heavy on my shoulders, i see alot of guys with dslr's and a big backbag, it makes my setup pretty small, but i understand what u mean.

A rx10 only delivers up untill 135mm APSC equivalent, which is not the same as 200mm. That being said, the 200mm what is 300mm 1.5 crop was already limited, but because of the great apsc sensor we could crop when needed. I'm more of a 50/30/12 shooter, which makes this kit alot smaller, maybe we should invest in a second camera for herself only. It would be nice to stay with sony, but non of the camera's they have will have the same 300mm equivalent like we had on the apsc a6000 and still being acceptable small for our taste.

I must say i like your thinking, i'm always searching for the best performance and size. Maybe i should be looking at M43, but i loved this A6000 body and menu system, i know this is important because i hated the nex6 nex style menu, it was not as enjoying as it should be.
 
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I just looked at the RX100m3, saw some reviews, it looks like a nice camera in combination with the a6000.

Since i have kinda the same shooting style and more of a traveler like you are, i'm not convinced yet, I don't wanne regret it :) What did u not like about the camera? Was it to small? Did u used it as a replacement. I think i won't like the electronic zoom, since i never liked the 16-50, somethings just should be manual right?.
 
Two days ago my equipment was stolen on our vacation at Miami Beach, u can imaging we are both deeply disapointed in the word we are living in. We work hard for what we have and want, which is what evryone should do in my opinion.

I,m still here in miami while i'm writhing this post, we have travel insurance but it would not cover all the cost, but we have to get it first, also all our foto's are gone, which Makes it even worse :(.

In the future i will get better insurance for sure, we learned it the hard way, dont make the same mistake. Also make alot of backups, evrey day.

The things we lost was a Sony a6000 with the sel 18-200le(girlfriend most fav), sel 10-18 f4(i loved this lens) together with 3 sony batt and peak design wrist solution, all this in a 1 week old Ona Bowery bag. new: 2500,-

If we get our insurance money back, which would not cover the costs at all, we want it all back ofcourse, we love taking foto's.

Thing that bothered me of this set was the wight of the 18-200le, but my girlfriend loved it beacuase it was very versatile, so did i. The time i bought this lens the Zeis 16-70 F4 was not there yet and i always wanted to know what i would have done if it was there in the first place.

Me, myself personaly like the lower ranges, loved the 10-18 and the F4 Aperture, now my girlfriend hates changing lenses so a 16-70 and a 55-210 haves to be so damn good instead of a sel 18-200le to even consider it. For me, i like the "idea" having the 16-70 F4 Zeis.

The Ona Bowey bag was great and we will get it again, it was a very sort time we had it, but i know for sure it was the 1. because of the bag, we are only allowed to have 3 lenses, 1 on body, 2 right besiade it, which brings me to the next problem.

What we had:

- Sony A6000

- Sony sel 18-200le

- Sony sel 10-18 F4

- in the furture Sel 35F1.8/ Sel 24F1.8 (Problem number 2: OSS vs versatile 24mm)

new setup:

Sony A6000

- Sony Zeis 16-70 F4

- Sony 10-18 F4

- Sony 55-210

- Aint enough room for a prime in this bag, we dont want ir to get any bigger or havier.

What would u guys do?, We both need to like the setup, i already have mine 10-18, but the idea of the 16-70 is killing me. I always told myself i did the right thing with in consideration i would get a pime in the future, which i want for low light shots.
Sorry for your loss. That's very terrible.

I personally don't see why people travel with heavy rigs (yes your stolen rig is too much i think). I'll never travel with a 200mm range lens because i don't see why i should... travel is about capturing most of what you can thus, wide primes are welcome.

I've traveled a lot and my only lens for my NEX F3 was the Sigma 30 ! Very light rig. Now that i have an A7, i though the 24-70 would be a nice addition for travelling but it is heavy and takes a lot of space too, that's why i'm actually thinking of getting the 35mm 2.8 Zeiss !

After all, if you want the reach, get the Rx10 or the Rx100.
Hmmm, too big? An Ona Bowey bag is to big for your taste. I agree with you that de nex F3 with a small sigma 30mm is alot smaller. I did not find it heavy on my shoulders, i see alot of guys with dslr's and a big backbag, it makes my setup pretty small, but i understand what u mean.

A rx10 only delivers up untill 135mm APSC equivalent, which is not the same as 200mm. That being said, the 200mm what is 300mm 1.5 crop was already limited, but because of the great apsc sensor we could crop when needed. I'm more of a 50/30/12 shooter, which makes this kit alot smaller, maybe we should invest in a second camera for herself only. It would be nice to stay with sony, but non of the camera's they have will have the same 300mm equivalent like we had on the apsc a6000 and still being acceptable small for our taste.

I must say i like your thinking, i'm always searching for the best performance and size. Maybe i should be looking at M43, but i loved this A6000 body and menu system, i know this is important because i hated the nex6 nex style menu, it was not as enjoying as it should be.
An RX100 III or IV seems like a good backup option to me. Personally, I generally carry the A6000 mounted with the 16-70 and a NEX 6 mounted with the 12mm Zeiss touit and the 32mm Zeiss touit in the bag for low light where there is subject movement. The 35mm 1.8 Sony would probably be better for that purpose, but I got a deal a while back on the 32 and 12 combo. The above equipment and even more lenses fit in a messenger-style bag that qualifies as a personal item on the airlines, which allows carry-on luggage in addition. Those who travel will understand the utility. If wildlife or extensive natural scenery is the subject of the trip, I will generally lug my Canon gear (but don't enjoy the extra weight and bulk) and pack my wife's suitcase with the pharmaceuticals and emergency clothing.
 
I just looked at the RX100m3, saw some reviews, it looks like a nice camera in combination with the a6000.

Since i have kinda the same shooting style and more of a traveler like you are, i'm not convinced yet, I don't wanne regret it :) What did u not like about the camera? Was it to small? Did u used it as a replacement. I think i won't like the electronic zoom, since i never liked the 16-50, somethings just should be manual right?.
I picked the M3 because it seems to have superior image quality for its size and I'm already familiar with the menu system. I bought it for times when I don't really want to bring the a6000. That typically is either out at night (security) or during dinner social events (intrusive) - typically low light situations.

I have found in these situations that this is precisely where the camera does not perform for me (or friends that grab the cam). So many pictures have clear camera movement blur. I don't know if the OSS in the 6k is better than the M3, or if it is because I am using the same technique as I would with the 6k and shouldn't. I tend to shoot in aperture priority and let the cam pick ISO/Shutter, rarely a problem with the 6k.

Honestly, I have not worked with the camera in daylight situations enough because I would probably have the a6000. From what little I have done though, I get the sense it is a very good daytime camera. Also I was impressed with some video it took in low light.

I'm currently on the fence of selling it, giving it away for friend/family or trying to work harder at using it better, but I'd rather spend quality time improving my technique with the 6k.
 
Two days ago my equipment was stolen on our vacation at Miami Beach, u can imaging we are both deeply disapointed in the word we are living in. We work hard for what we have and want, which is what evryone should do in my opinion.

I,m still here in miami while i'm writhing this post, we have travel insurance but it would not cover all the cost, but we have to get it first, also all our foto's are gone, which Makes it even worse :(.

In the future i will get better insurance for sure, we learned it the hard way, dont make the same mistake. Also make alot of backups, evrey day.

The things we lost was a Sony a6000 with the sel 18-200le(girlfriend most fav), sel 10-18 f4(i loved this lens) together with 3 sony batt and peak design wrist solution, all this in a 1 week old Ona Bowery bag. new: 2500,-

If we get our insurance money back, which would not cover the costs at all, we want it all back ofcourse, we love taking foto's.

Thing that bothered me of this set was the wight of the 18-200le, but my girlfriend loved it beacuase it was very versatile, so did i. The time i bought this lens the Zeis 16-70 F4 was not there yet and i always wanted to know what i would have done if it was there in the first place.

Me, myself personaly like the lower ranges, loved the 10-18 and the F4 Aperture, now my girlfriend hates changing lenses so a 16-70 and a 55-210 haves to be so damn good instead of a sel 18-200le to even consider it. For me, i like the "idea" having the 16-70 F4 Zeis.

The Ona Bowey bag was great and we will get it again, it was a very sort time we had it, but i know for sure it was the 1. because of the bag, we are only allowed to have 3 lenses, 1 on body, 2 right besiade it, which brings me to the next problem.

What we had:

- Sony A6000

- Sony sel 18-200le

- Sony sel 10-18 F4

- in the furture Sel 35F1.8/ Sel 24F1.8 (Problem number 2: OSS vs versatile 24mm)

new setup:

Sony A6000

- Sony Zeis 16-70 F4

- Sony 10-18 F4

- Sony 55-210

- Aint enough room for a prime in this bag, we dont want ir to get any bigger or havier.

What would u guys do?, We both need to like the setup, i already have mine 10-18, but the idea of the 16-70 is killing me. I always told myself i did the right thing with in consideration i would get a pime in the future, which i want for low light shots.
Sorry for your loss. That's very terrible.

I personally don't see why people travel with heavy rigs (yes your stolen rig is too much i think). I'll never travel with a 200mm range lens because i don't see why i should... travel is about capturing most of what you can thus, wide primes are welcome.

I've traveled a lot and my only lens for my NEX F3 was the Sigma 30 ! Very light rig. Now that i have an A7, i though the 24-70 would be a nice addition for travelling but it is heavy and takes a lot of space too, that's why i'm actually thinking of getting the 35mm 2.8 Zeiss !

After all, if you want the reach, get the Rx10 or the Rx100.
Hmmm, too big? An Ona Bowey bag is to big for your taste. I agree with you that de nex F3 with a small sigma 30mm is alot smaller. I did not find it heavy on my shoulders, i see alot of guys with dslr's and a big backbag, it makes my setup pretty small, but i understand what u mean.

A rx10 only delivers up untill 135mm APSC equivalent, which is not the same as 200mm. That being said, the 200mm what is 300mm 1.5 crop was already limited, but because of the great apsc sensor we could crop when needed. I'm more of a 50/30/12 shooter, which makes this kit alot smaller, maybe we should invest in a second camera for herself only. It would be nice to stay with sony, but non of the camera's they have will have the same 300mm equivalent like we had on the apsc a6000 and still being acceptable small for our taste.

I must say i like your thinking, i'm always searching for the best performance and size. Maybe i should be looking at M43, but i loved this A6000 body and menu system, i know this is important because i hated the nex6 nex style menu, it was not as enjoying as it should be.
The Ona Bowey is a nice bag but i think it is a bit chunky to hang around as a tourist, i mean you go to restaurant and stuff, the last thing i want to care about is my camera :D

I Personally use a Billingham Hadley Digital. Whilst it is the smallest out there, but i use it to carry a camera + attached lens + glasses and other stuff that i use so i can have less stuff on me. It's just my personal opinion anyways :)
 
Rather than spending money on insurance (homeowner's or auto ins. may cover after deductible, BTW), consider just taking better care of your valuable equpment.
Nice. Blame the victim instead of the scum thief who took it. That's the problem with today's society, and you're part of it!
 
Rather than spending money on insurance (homeowner's or auto ins. may cover after deductible, BTW), consider just taking better care of your valuable equpment.
Nice. Blame the victim instead of the scum thief who took it. That's the problem with today's society, and you're part of it!
 
I would try the 16-70 before you buy it. I had that lens for a few months and didn't really find that it gave me much better images then the 16-50 kit, so I ended up trading it for a 10-18 and I am enjoying that a lot more.

The 18-105 might be a good one for you to look at as well, seems like it would bridge the gap between the 16-70 and the 18-200.
 
I would try the 16-70 before you buy it. I had that lens for a few months and didn't really find that it gave me much better images then the 16-50 kit, so I ended up trading it for a 10-18 and I am enjoying that a lot more.

The 18-105 might be a good one for you to look at as well, seems like it would bridge the gap between the 16-70 and the 18-200.
I personally find the sweet spot of the 16-50 to be quite limited and the 16-70 to be a far better and versatile lens. Whenever I have used the 16-50, I tended to adjust the color and contrast, not to mention WA distortion correction, a great deal more for the 16-50 than the 16-70. So, I just don't use the 16-50 any longer. Stopped down in its mid to upper range the 16-50 is sharp enough, but sharpness isn't everything. The 16-70 has great center sharpness throughout its range and the edge sharpness is for most purposes adequate, while the color and contrast are pretty good. The 18-105 is a different animal, which like the 16-50 has considerable WA distortion (correctible in camera for JPEGs), but otherwise is a pretty good optic and should be considered, although it is much larger than the 16-70.
 
I would try the 16-70 before you buy it. I had that lens for a few months and didn't really find that it gave me much better images then the 16-50 kit, so I ended up trading it for a 10-18 and I am enjoying that a lot more.

The 18-105 might be a good one for you to look at as well, seems like it would bridge the gap between the 16-70 and the 18-200.
I agree with that the sel10-18 is a exceptional lens, it's my first choice, it's very light and small, just love shooting with it.

The 16-50 i don't like it at all, it's very light and small and takes nice pictures, but in my opinion the electronic zooming just don't cut it for me, it's a experience i rather avoid. That being said, the 18-105 also zooms electronic and it's a bigger and i think a havier lens then the 18-200le.

I still think, but of course i wanne try it out before i'm even going to buy it, how the 16-70 handle's vs the havier 18-200le. It should be better, sharper, nicer contrast. I've tested the 16-50 vs the 18-200le and there was not much difference between them, the only thing I noticed was that the 16-50 the pictures from it was more greyest vs the 18-200le which had a nicer color production imo.
 

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