Paul T.
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Oh, I do so agree (and it definitely applies to User Manuals as well).
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G7 Review - second visit
Kanny
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Your conclusion is much better and precise that the DPReviewer's, by far.
gary0319
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Good summary, Stuman1, thanks.
Looking really hard at this camera and your list of the "what's" Pro and "what's Con is the part that was missing in the original review. The original reviewer seemed to get himself all tangled up with the "who" and the "how" and missed the "what".
Looking really hard at this camera and your list of the "what's" Pro and "what's Con is the part that was missing in the original review. The original reviewer seemed to get himself all tangled up with the "who" and the "how" and missed the "what".
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Setter Dog
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jeffharris
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- 10-bit images when Silent mode/electronic shutter is enabled! 12-bit only with mechanical shutter.
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Chi Pham
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If I were to recommend a camera, I cannot say it will be the G7.
Because the competition is that much better.
- Competition has IBIS 3-5 axis. Very useful for videos too.
- Competition has solve the shutters shock.
- 16 MP is old tech. Needs 24MP BSI.
- faster e-shutter scan to minimize distortion. Why is Panny worst on this?
Because of these issues, 70% bronze rating is more than fair if you compare to the competition.
4K grabbing is great but most consumer will not be shooting like that. Mostly enthusiasts.
Setter Dog
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In camera stabilization is nice, I guess, certainly better than nothing. I have a strong preference for in lens stabilization since it is equally effective and improves the view through the EVF. If I had a lot of non stabilized lenses, I would certainly prefer in camera IS, though.
Jack
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Senior Member
Great post. I agree with everything that you said.
Thanks Henry for articulating my thoughts so well.
So many of his comments had little to do with a review of a camera.
His comments had no business in such a Review.
The more I read the more my mouth was moving like a fish. Unable to
understand the relevance of what he had written.
This is a Subjective Review written by someone pretending he had
written an Objective Review!
katy
So many of his comments had little to do with a review of a camera.
His comments had no business in such a Review.
The more I read the more my mouth was moving like a fish. Unable to
understand the relevance of what he had written.
This is a Subjective Review written by someone pretending he had
written an Objective Review!
katy
No, I couldn't. I don't work for the marketing department of a camera company and I'm confident you won't find any such glowing language at the beginning of any review I've helmed. The start of the review is an assessment of what the camera promises: you've written a conclusion and one I couldn't justify writing about this camera.
I might try to sneak an AFL reference into a future review, though.
It may do, but we disagree on that. I've used all of the G7's contemporaries and, if still image quality is your primary concern, the G7 isn't the camera for you.
The difference isn't huge and there are plenty of things (movies, size, availability of lenses - all mentioned in the review), that make it interesting in its own right and I've given the camera credit for this.
And you should notice that the 'features' bar in the scoring is very high as a result.
There's only really the Samsung NX500. Again, this is explicitly stated in the review and the last line of the conclusion says that, if video is a major motivation for buying, then this is the stand-out camera in its class.
It feels like that's the thing you're castigating me for. I cannot be as positive about the G7 as you'd clearly like, just as I am never as positive about any camera as those invested in the brand would want. The result would be reviews that said all cameras are amazing.
There are plenty of other sites you can go to for that.
I disagree (see my point above).
At the point where you're telling me what I did and didn't do as part of reviews (something which you can't possibly know), there's little point me contributing any further.
I'll certainly be looking back at the precise phrasing of some sections, to try to understand how you're forming such a negative interpretation of what are often meant as neutral, balanced and even positive points, but I stand by the thrust of my review.
The camera was scored and awarded on the basis of its strengths and weaknesses, compared to its peers (as all cameras are) and got one of the best results in its class. This does not include my assessment of suitability, which appears to be your main concern.
However, my review is written to provide pertinent information to different groups of would-be buyers (and provide an open look at how I came to this conclusion - despite the fact that being open and honest leaves me open to this kind of criticism). This is why its degree of control is listed as both a Pro and a Con: because I recognise that it'll be attractive for some people and off-putting for others.
Richard - dpreview.com
Your conclusions don't jive with your explanation of your review.
Conclusion - Pros
Conclusion - Pros
Conclusion - Pros
- Built-in Wi-Fi with comprehensive set of features (the features are app based btw)
- Extensive external controls (yet this is a negative as well? Make up your damn mind!)
- Number of external controls make the camera seem more complex than it is (This was a positive, again make up your damn mind!)
- Dated Q.Menu is over-complex (isn't this the same complaint as below?)
- Touchscreen control tabs leave the screen a bit cluttered (though they can be disabled) (Same complaint as above)
- Continuous AF performance not as good with Olympus lenses (You don't say?!?)
Conclusion - Pros
- Solid image quality in both Raw and JPEG
- 4K (UHD) video
- 4K Photo mode with clever pre-burst option for grabbing stills from video
- In-camera Raw conversion for post-shot re-processing
- Super-fast focus for single AF acquisitions, even down to -4EV
- Impressive continuous AF and tracking with 6 frame per second shooting
- Impressive AF accuracy
- Gorgeous and improved EVF, same as GH4
- Well-proportioned hand grip
- Extensive external controls easy to set up the camera to your personal preference
- Simple and customizable Q Menu
- Menu UI easy to navigate and comprehend
- Very responsive touchscreen
- Flip out LCD that's improved and can rotate 180 degrees for selfies or rotated towards the body for extra protection
- Lightweight, compact yet not cheap feeling
- Silent shooting possible with e-shutter (beware of rolling shutter that affects all cameras using e-shutters)
- Compatible with all m43 lens (DFD not supported with Olympus lenses)
- iA feature and enough features for beginners to learn as they go along
- Wifi allows for easy remote control of camera with an app on your Android or iOS smartphone
- Mechanical shutter can cause some softness at around 1/100th exposures on some lens
- Wi-Fi app is not intuitive and buggy
- Battery life quite limited for video shooting and if the LCD is used a lot for composition and review
- No Auto ISO in certain settings
- AF Tracking still not at the level needed for sports photography
- Lowlight image quality starting to fall behind rivals with newer sensor tech
- Sensor resolution starting to fall behind competitors outside the realm of m43
- E-Shutter only 10-bits
Chi Pham
Senior Member
So has Panasonic, years ago already introducing the e-shutter. Plus the Olympus solution only works up to 1/320s and not in seq. mode.
The G70's e-shutter is about 50% faster then Olys implementation in the E-M5Ii.
jeffharris
Forum Pro
Exactly. Where was the EDITOR?
He or she threw his/her hands up and said "f it do what you want" and went to smoke a whole carton after reading that mess and seeing its not Canon, Nikon or Oly.
I am a happy G3 user and felt it was time to upgrade. When I saw the specifications for the G7, I was ready to proceed with the purchase. Although I don't do video, I thought the pre-burst feature was something that I could really use to help me capture the right moments! The tone of the review has given me pause as if I am making the right decision since I don't do video. I am glad Hen3ry has help me articulate my thoughts.
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