If there was going to be a significant improvement in image quality (ISO performance, dynamic range) Sony would have said something about it. But their press release mentioned nothing in this regard - only performance improvements (fast sensor readout for full sensor 4K, high shutter speeds and frame rates, high burst rates). So I wouldn't be expecting anything.
There may be some differences if the jpeg processing engine is different from the previous models. There have been remarks of over enthusiastic noise removal by the processor leaving artefacts on very close examination. Of course if shooting raw this may not be a problem.
That's a 2011 article - it's been 4 years since. Eternity in technology terms. Sony used same picture with birthday cake many times and yet I don't see any users saying that their rx100m2 can do perfect stills in such dark conditions with those "RGBW" magical coding
30 days is a month! That's too long. Many people can't wait that long. They have to plan purchase ahead, especially that price is $1000 and not $150. Summer is not going to last long, folsk have plans and vacations and trips planned. If they are not going to know ahead what rx100m4 is going to give them - then it's all useless. Might as well wait for next summer and next rx100m5 then.
I would but m4 for improvements in low light as well. Though I rarely have complaints with m3That's a 2011 article - it's been 4 years since. Eternity in technology terms. Sony used same picture with birthday cake many times and yet I don't see any users saying that their rx100m2 can do perfect stills in such dark conditions with those "RGBW" magical coding
It's all BS. I'll wait for reviews and if rx100m4 will have some improvements in low light - even 1/3 stop would be enough for me - then I'll buy it. If it's going to be same - meh.....
I agree with all, except the part about low light. I find it hard to believe. rx100m3 does well in low light, but to say that there is no single problem - is exaggeration. I find that for example indoors I have to often go as high as ISO3200 - and that is not so good, pics are noisy. I would limit low light to ISO800 or ISO1600 as max to get more or less clean pictures. But in that case shutter speed drops to low - 1/15 or so - that is unacceptable for shooting people. The only way to save the moment is flash - but I can't use flash in all situations, besides I don't like the photos that come out using flash (including bounce mode). So not good enough. If it was good enough for low light - people won't buy A7s and would stay with rx100m3 and all successor cameras like rx100m4 etc - will be unneeded. We all know it is not the case. Yes, we need better low light - we meed cleaner high ISO - exactly the thing that rx100m4 failed to provide so far. Hopefully reviews will come soon and we will see at least some improvements.
From what you've said it's pretty clear that no 1" sensor camera is going to give you the ISO performance you desire. So don't get you hopes up about the RX100M4.
He said 30 days for 'plenty of reviews'. You'll see plenty of samples and early reviews before then. Thorough reviews like the ones that DPR do though take about 2 weeks.
Sony has told us exactly what to expect - they held a press conference and issued a press release. A sensor with faster readout that gives the RX100M4 full sensor 4K, high frame rates, burst rates and shutter speeds.
The only clue we have AT ALL about improved performance with the new stacked sensor regarding sensitivity is the lower number on the non-expanded iso range, which we assume is the base ISO. Current sensor base is 125, new camera is 100 (maybe!) So, it might be 1/3 stop better vs the current sensor.
That would be wonderful!
See that's where I disagree. Sony is playing a hide and seek game recently. Take A7RII - they haven't told about increase of ISO either. They focused on 4K, resolution, 5-axis IBIS, 399 AF points, readout speed etc. However, reports already indicate about +1 stop! increase. It may be that ISO will be + 1/3 speed better. That's enough to convince some users to upgrade and other users to buy it. That's a 1/3 more light for each picture.
The RX100M4 is showing as shipping on 3 July from B&H, so only about 2 weeks before you'll see plenty of user reports too.
The difference is that A7RII got a BSI sensor, technology that is know to improve ISO performance. Sony also mention it a number of times in their press release for the A7RII - they mention "high sensitivity" on four occasions and "low noise" twice.
RX100 I, RX100 II, Canon G7X - all have longer lenses and no EVF. It's not like you don't have other choices. That's the great thing about Sony keeping the older RX100's on the market.
