Sony HX90V Image Quality

ZHfree · Jun 16, 2015

Hey guys, I will travel to Europe end of June, and seriously considering to buy on of the Sony HX90V. However, the sample test images I've seen have a lot of noise even at the lowest ISO settings, and both the details and object edges are fuzzy and washed out. I've seen this on various NR settings. Is this something that perhaps can be fixed with better image processing in the next firmware upgrade, or it is the limitation of the camera? I'd expect much better image quality from this image sensor. What is your experience so far? What do you think about the image quality of the HX90V? Is there any full size samples somewhere uploaded yet?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Zoltan

JHT1 · Jun 16, 2015

Been using the HX90V for a couple of weeks now and very pleased with results. I tried the Pana TZ70 and the still images were awful. They were not as good as my old tz5! Mabe I had a duff one, but returned to shop for refund. The HX90V is a little smaller than TZ70 but an ideal in the pocket travel camera. Tim

markiemark · Jun 16, 2015

Hi Zoltan.

If you haven't seen my image samples yet they can be found at www.pixelpartner.co.uk/HX90

There are plenty of video clips too, as well as comparisons with the RX100 mark one and the old-but-good HX9v. I hope you find them useful!

ZHfree · Jun 16, 2015

Thank you!

ZHfree · Jun 16, 2015

Hi,

I've seen your pictures before. Great shots, congratulations!

My problem is that the large amount of noise always bothers me. Like on the first picture, on the glass surface, or on the chrome, or basically everywhere, there is a lot of noise. And the ISO is only 100.

Thanks for your reply, really appreciate it.

Zoltan

Goatruckus · Jun 17, 2015

ZHfree said:
Hi,

I've seen your pictures before. Great shots, congratulations!

My problem is that the large amount of noise always bothers me. Like on the first picture, on the glass surface, or on the chrome, or basically everywhere, there is a lot of noise. And the ISO is only 100.

Thanks for your reply, really appreciate it.

Zoltan

I am also wary of the noise in the HX90V images that I've seen but I ordered the camera anyway. I have the older HX9V so I looked for websites that have side-by-side comparisons. When viewed at 100%, the newer model does look much noisier, but there is also more detail. When I download the images and view at 70% or less, the noise factor is greatly reduced and the HX90V images look better, particularly at higher ISOs where colors are better preserved. The new model also seems to be quite a bit better at controlling CA.

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www.imaging-resource.com

I didn't compare to other manufacturers travel zooms because I don't want a camera sized any bigger than the HX90/HX9. The tipping point for my upgrade was the EVF which will mean that I don't have to guess what I'm framing in bright sunlight.

Good luck.

LinJay · Jun 17, 2015

Goatruckus said:
ZHfree said:

Hi,

I've seen your pictures before. Great shots, congratulations!

My problem is that the large amount of noise always bothers me. Like on the first picture, on the glass surface, or on the chrome, or basically everywhere, there is a lot of noise. And the ISO is only 100.

Thanks for your reply, really appreciate it.

Zoltan

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I am also wary of the noise in the HX90V images that I've seen but I ordered the camera anyway. I have the older HX9V so I looked for websites that have side-by-side comparisons. When viewed at 100%, the newer model does look much noisier, but there is also more detail. When I download the images and view at 70% or less, the noise factor is greatly reduced and the HX90V images look better, particularly at higher ISOs where colors are better preserved. The new model also seems to be quite a bit better at controlling CA.

http://pixelpartner.co.uk/HX90/index.php/test8/

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/sony-hx90v/sony-hx90vA7.HTM

I didn't compare to other manufacturers travel zooms because I don't want a camera sized any bigger than the HX90/HX9. The tipping point for my upgrade was the EVF which will mean that I don't have to guess what I'm framing in bright sunlight.

Good luck.

I agreed that the new HX90V images is noisier than the old HX9V when viewed at 100%. Not sure if it caused by the pixel size on the sensor. Yes, the color is well persevered on the HX90V.

theranman · Jun 17, 2015

If pixel peeping noise bothers you that much, why not use a program like Noise Ninja to further clean things up on the jpegs?

User1303423862 · Jun 17, 2015

I think a better approach is to resize the image to the point where the processing doesn't detract from the viewing of the image. a 20 MP image is 5472x3648. Most monitors are around 1/4 of that. Viewed at 25% the image looks clear and sharp. It'll make a fine A4 print too.

LinJay · Jun 17, 2015

theranman said:
If pixel peeping noise bothers you that much, why not use a program like Noise Ninja to further clean things up on the jpegs?

Simple answer is I don't have Time to pp or downscaling my images at my current stage. Now I basically not pixel peeping my images unless I read any camera review or comparison. I miss my old days when I was single and didn't have a job where I had more fun to play with my images. ;-)

Stuart · Jun 17, 2015

For me the above are two exciting features of this cam .Did you try them and if so how well were they implemented?

theranman · Jun 17, 2015

"I miss my old days when I was single and didn't have a job where I had more fun to play with my images."

STOP playing with your images!

LinJay · Jun 17, 2015

theranman said:
"I miss my old days when I was single and didn't have a job where I had more fun to play with my images."
STOP playing with your images!

Not sure if you were replying to my posting or not. Yes, I have already stop playing with my images and spending more time with my own family, dogs and cats :-D

sybersitizen · Jun 17, 2015

Anyone: Does the HX90v have a compass to record direction data along with position data, like the HX9v?

ZHfree · Jun 18, 2015

Thanks for all the valuable opinions guys. I ended up purchasing the FZ1000, which is of course a totally different "animal", much bigger (not the POCKET size that I really wanted), much pricier, but I have a feeling that I'll be OK with the image quality. Enjoy your summer, and shoot a lot!

laserx · Jun 22, 2015

Yes, works not bad and eliminates the noise that I see in the normal pictures. It cannot be used on every subject but it drastically reduces noise on everything that does not move

Stuart · Jun 22, 2015

Thanks ! Are the reluctant hdr jpgs characterized simply by a higher dynamic range or do they have a hint of tone mapped HDR ?
Also ..what WA your experience with DRO ?

laserx · Jun 22, 2015

what do you understand by "hint of tone maped"?

the HDR image that I show, shows +/- the same brightness for the sky, but the noise is gone and the building is brighter than without HDR.

I tried DRO tonight in the disco and the results are mucht brighter than without DRO, but if poeple mowe /dance to quick, they get blured

Stuart · Jun 22, 2015

Tone mapping gives the somewhat surreal look you see for conventional HDR, which takes multiple raw images to perform. However, there is software that gives you the "look" on a single jpg.

Here is MediaChance's Redynamix applied to your pic. I got similar results with the non-HDR shot. I suspect the noise would be lower, but it is hard to assess at the resolution you posted. It would appear that the 90V only increases DR but seems to do a good job now that I can see your pic on the computer instead of my phone.

laserx · Jun 23, 2015

in my opinion it is done more to increase the DR and reduce the noise. it has the iso settings 3200-80 and "auto" (which choses in the range 80-3200) but also am mode calles "iso auto" where it does multiframe NR an goes up to 12800

the same technique is used to increase DR at night with DRO or DROauto. I think they rely very much on image processing capabilities of the BIONZ X processor to compensate for a tiny, noisy, 18MP sensor, but the results are not that bad

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