Battery of J5 anywhere? - still not around here

But let me help you out: if you walk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics and talk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics... ;)
let me reciprocate. as you're painting (quacking) pragmatism as fanboyish-antics, let's paint your passive aggressiveness, cynicism, and fake winkies as more hateful agitation. see how that works? ;)
 
But let me help you out: if you walk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics and talk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics... ;)
let me reciprocate. as you're painting (quacking) pragmatism as fanboyish-antics, let's paint your passive aggressiveness, cynicism, and fake winkies as more hateful agitation. see how that works? ;)
I've seen enough of your dismissals of whomever expressing the tiniest criticism of Nikon's ways with the 1 line that I do not buy your faux appeal to pragmatism. Your way is pragmatic, and others' are not? Who gave you the authority to define what's pragmatic for others?

As for your "reciprocation," all I see is your projecting yourself onto me and betraying yourself in the process. I get it: you don't like it that I was poking fun at your antics. But when you repeatedly dismiss others who don't share your self-serving notion of "pragmatism," then don't get upset if somebody calls you on it.
 
But let me help you out: if you walk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics and talk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics... ;)
let me reciprocate. as you're painting (quacking) pragmatism as fanboyish-antics, let's paint your passive aggressiveness, cynicism, and fake winkies as more hateful agitation. see how that works? ;)
I've seen enough of your dismissals of whomever expressing the tiniest criticism of Nikon's ways with the 1 line that I do not buy your faux appeal to pragmatism. Your way is pragmatic, and others' are not? Who gave you the authority to define what's pragmatic for others?
so you are admitting to being passive aggressive. good. we can always debate pragmatism, but we don't need to add any hateful agitation.
As for your "reciprocation," all I see is your projecting yourself onto me and betraying yourself in the process. I get it: you don't like it that I was poking fun at your antics. But when you repeatedly dismiss others who don't share your self-serving notion of "pragmatism," then don't get upset if somebody calls you on it.
you weren't poking fun, but being cynical. maybe for you they're one in the same? there's room for lots of views and qualifications in this forum, and while hating on Nikon for imaginary slights may be cathartic, Nikon's really not that much different from other camera makers in my view.

if you care to debate differences in opinion — fine. if we disagree — fine. but if you accuse someone of being apologetic, you better come armed with specific examples.

this whole battery issue is a tempest in a tea pot. particularly as it's entirely within reason that the best case scenario for booking cargo (2~6 weeks), shipping these batteries in bulk across the Pacific (2~3 weeks), processing through customs (x weeks), and booking special transport to warehouse for explosive materials might take in the range of 2~3 months. that's before any stress testing issues before the batteries leave the sub-contractor, docking delays, dock worker slow downs, and/or a number of other logistical issues.

it's easy to froth people up by claiming "Nikon doesn't give a Sh*t" — but i'd rather err on the pragmatic before the cynical. now that it looks like the batteries are starting to trickle in, this issue will probably become moot. JMO. :) <— genuine smilie!
 
But let me help you out: if you walk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics and talk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics... ;)
let me reciprocate. as you're painting (quacking) pragmatism as fanboyish-antics, let's paint your passive aggressiveness, cynicism, and fake winkies as more hateful agitation. see how that works? ;)
I've seen enough of your dismissals of whomever expressing the tiniest criticism of Nikon's ways with the 1 line that I do not buy your faux appeal to pragmatism. Your way is pragmatic, and others' are not? Who gave you the authority to define what's pragmatic for others?
so you are admitting to being passive aggressive.
No. That's just a self-serving false assertion.
good. we can always debate pragmatism, but we don't need to add any hateful agitation.
Just because you don't like it and call it "hateful agitation" doesn't make it so.
As for your "reciprocation," all I see is your projecting yourself onto me and betraying yourself in the process. I get it: you don't like it that I was poking fun at your antics. But when you repeatedly dismiss others who don't share your self-serving notion of "pragmatism," then don't get upset if somebody calls you on it.
you weren't poking fun, but being cynical.
Wrong again. And you can't possibly know that. I find your dismissals rather comical, and I was indeed poking fun at you, hence the winkies. If you don't like it then don't be so dismissive of others with sensibilities that are different than yours.
maybe for you they're one in the same? there's room for lots of views and qualifications in this forum, and while hating on Nikon for imaginary slights may be cathartic, Nikon's really not that much different from other camera makers in my view.
Nikon is not a third-rate company. It is a world-class imaging company with a distinguished pedigree. That some people expect more from them should be no surprise and cannot be wantonly dismissed as "hating on Nikon." That others have higher expectations than you or do not share your sense of enchantment does not entitle you to ding their sensibilities and concerns. It is not the case that you are the pragmatic one, but others not so much.
if you care to debate differences in opinion — fine. if we disagree — fine. but if you accuse someone of being apologetic, you better come armed with specific examples.

this whole battery issue is a tempest in a tea pot. particularly as it's entirely within reason that the best case scenario for booking cargo (2~6 weeks), shipping these batteries in bulk across the Pacific (2~3 weeks), processing through customs (x weeks), and booking special transport to warehouse for explosive materials might take in the range of 2~3 months. that's before any stress testing issues before the batteries leave the sub-contractor, docking delays, dock worker slow downs, and/or a number of other logistical issues.

it's easy to froth people up by claiming "Nikon doesn't give a Sh*t" — but i'd rather err on the pragmatic before the cynical. now that it looks like the batteries are starting to trickle in, this issue will probably become moot. JMO. :) <— genuine smilie!
 
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it's easy to froth people up by claiming "Nikon doesn't give a Sh*t" — but i'd rather err on the pragmatic before the cynical. now that it looks like the batteries are starting to trickle in, this issue will probably become moot. JMO. :) <— genuine smilie!
I may as well answer here, to keep the noise in the same place. There is no intent to "froth" anyone. The only person that seems all frothed as if someone shot their dog is you.

Several other people replied with useful valuable information about battery availability which is an essential part of the post. Some others also expressed frustration. Nobody is calling for an alarmist situation like a Nikon law suit or massive jumping of systems or the like- not that it should matter.

The only tempest latte froth here is yours.

But of course someone apologizing for the company like in this thread (specific example) would take it all very personal. And in trying to throw anything that may stick then you say things like the supremely idiotic proposition that not reading the manual inside the Nikon 1 J4 box to know that it would not support a world class leader in Micro SD card manufacture at the same time of buying both camera and card online is a dumb mistake on their part.

I mean, an argumentative proposition like that doesn't seem to remotely suggest some thought to what is being said and doesn't get much dumber than that.

Which is in great part of why I say the point is missed. But that's ok. For whatever reason this is all very dear and personal to you.

I have noticed over time that a great majority of the people that act this way in a forum usually have no photos to show or good photography. Maybe you have an awesome gallery somewhere but on a quick look - forgive me if I missed an awesome thread with photography- I could not find a gallery or anything posted. That may explain why the battery availability for 2+ months doesn't seem like an issue- how would you know? But hey, if you have a link to great work I am all ears.

This my last reply to you because I need to get ready to pick up 21 shots that I sent for framing two weeks ago, as I have a full month exhibition next month in a well known gallery close to Sacramento.

If it's any "little happy" for you, I am showing 2-3 photos taken with a Nikon 1 J4, since this seems much more important to you.

Have fun, I sure will :-)

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But let me help you out: if you walk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics and talk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics... ;)
let me reciprocate. as you're painting (quacking) pragmatism as fanboyish-antics, let's paint your passive aggressiveness, cynicism, and fake winkies as more hateful agitation. see how that works? ;)
I've seen enough of your dismissals of whomever expressing the tiniest criticism of Nikon's ways with the 1 line that I do not buy your faux appeal to pragmatism. Your way is pragmatic, and others' are not? Who gave you the authority to define what's pragmatic for others?
so you are admitting to being passive aggressive.
No. That's just a self-serving false assertion.
1. you published (made public) your judgement 2. you did it with a fake winkie (sarcasm). 3. you published it with no personal provocation on my part.

yes, i'd call that passive-agressive. however i'm not here to debate your flawed reasoning, just try to figure out why you'd attack someone who tamped down a questionable claim.
Just because you don't like it and call it "hateful agitation" doesn't make it so.
true, but as you can't refute anything specific to this thread, your piggybacking atop another poster's resentment makes you appears hateful (spiteful, hurt, distressed). i mean, did you really imply i was apologetic because i claimed the other camera makers can also be frustrating? if that's all you got it seems to me low and petty.
Wrong again. And you can't possibly know that. I find your dismissals rather comical, and I was indeed poking fun at you, hence the winkies.
i'd find this easier to believe if your initial remarks and their timing didn't seem so petty. perhaps you should reserve your comical ambitions for those instances where it's pertinent? that's the true sign of a rapier like wit.
Nikon is not a third-rate company. It is a world-class imaging company with a distinguished pedigree. That some people expect more from them should be no surprise and cannot be wantonly dismissed as "hating on Nikon."
same of Sony, Lenovo, Apple ... to name but a few. all of them have had their share of lithium battery delays. some even safety related issues. this before we can get into a number of grievances about different camera makers. IMO, it's the alarmists which propagate fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) where you should perhaps apply your comical talents. it could mitigate their cries of alarm in a crowded forum theater.

anyway, i'm done with you. if you feel it absolutely necessary to debate quackery, hope you find an audience which may actually care for what you think. adieu.
 
But let me help you out: if you walk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics and talk like a one-who-pokes-fun-at-fanboyish-antics... ;)
let me reciprocate. as you're painting (quacking) pragmatism as fanboyish-antics, let's paint your passive aggressiveness, cynicism, and fake winkies as more hateful agitation. see how that works? ;)
I've seen enough of your dismissals of whomever expressing the tiniest criticism of Nikon's ways with the 1 line that I do not buy your faux appeal to pragmatism. Your way is pragmatic, and others' are not? Who gave you the authority to define what's pragmatic for others?
so you are admitting to being passive aggressive.
No. That's just a self-serving false assertion.
1. you published (made public) your judgement 2. you did it with a fake winkie (sarcasm). 3. you published it with no personal provocation on my part.

yes, i'd call that passive-agressive. however i'm not here to debate your flawed reasoning, just try to figure out why you'd attack someone who tamped down a questionable claim.
I've made it crystal clear for you, and I can do no more, but I'll say it one last time. If you do not like being called on your antics, then don't be so dismissive of others' sensibilities and preferences. You are not a standard-bearer.
Just because you don't like it and call it "hateful agitation" doesn't make it so.
true, but as you can't refute anything specific to this thread, your piggybacking atop another poster's resentment makes you appears hateful (spiteful, hurt, distressed). i mean, did you really imply i was apologetic because i claimed the other camera makers can also be frustrating? if that's all you got it seems to me low and petty.
Wrong again. And you can't possibly know that. I find your dismissals rather comical, and I was indeed poking fun at you, hence the winkies.
i'd find this easier to believe if your initial remarks and their timing didn't seem so petty. perhaps you should reserve your comical ambitions for those instances where it's pertinent? that's the true sign of a rapier like wit.
Nikon is not a third-rate company. It is a world-class imaging company with a distinguished pedigree. That some people expect more from them should be no surprise and cannot be wantonly dismissed as "hating on Nikon."
same of Sony, Lenovo, Apple ... to name but a few. all of them have had their share of lithium battery delays. some even safety related issues. this before we can get into a number of grievances about different camera makers. IMO, it's the alarmists which propagate fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) where you should perhaps apply your comical talents. it could mitigate their cries of alarm in a crowded forum theater.

anyway, i'm done with you. if you feel it absolutely necessary to debate quackery, hope you find an audience which may actually care for what you think. adieu.
 

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