G7 vs GH4

needed - thanks ijm5012! Just about ready to pull the trigger on a M43 setup and got excited that I might be able to do the cut-rate route and get the new G7... but... the low data-rate on the video is a killer.
I advise you not write it off prematurely just based on bitrate. There's more to it.

28mbps was indeed low on a GH2, but 50mbps hacks proved more than adequate for 95% of all uses. What most people don't know is that Panasonic raised their h264 profiles in newer chips (more or less since the GX7). What this means is that the newer engines are using more advanced h264 encoding features that weren't possible before. This also means the encoder is more efficient and thus will get more IQ out of the same 28mbps data-rate.

I suggest you wait for a few reviews where you can download original MP4 material to judge it. If it can manage surf and not make a macroblock fest out of it, it will likely manage anything you can throw at it. ;)
 
Is G7 offered continued recording in 4K as G6 does? I have a couple of G6s for concert recording and need at 1.5 hours continued recording. I would love to add a 4K camera for a long shot and do some cropping in post.

In addition, is the colour of G7 identical to G6? I cant tell any difference between the colour of my GH2 and G6s. Hope, the colour of G7 is same as G6. Thanks!
 
Is G7 offered continued recording in 4K as G6 does? I have a couple of G6s for concert recording and need at 1.5 hours continued recording. I would love to add a 4K camera for a long shot and do some cropping in post.

In addition, is the colour of G7 identical to G6? I cant tell any difference between the colour of my GH2 and G6s. Hope, the colour of G7 is same as G6. Thanks!
From the G7 manual -

"MP4 motion pictures with a [Rec Quality] size of [4K]:

Recording stops when continuous recording time exceeds 29 minutes and 59 seconds.(You can continue recording without interruption even if the file size exceeds 4 GB, but the motion picture file will be divided and recorded/played back separately."

I guess this means a 30 min time limit, although it's a little ambiguous. My G7 hasn't arrived yet, so I can't confirm either way.

Another thing I found in the manual in the chapter on recording motion pictures (page 244)

"The [Sensitivity] will be set to [AUTO] (for motion pictures) when recording motion. Also, the [ISO Limit Set] will not operate."

Does that mean you can't manually select ISO when recording video, as in 4K?
 
Recording stops when continuous recording time exceeds 29 minutes and 59 seconds.(You can continue recording without interruption even if the file size exceeds 4 GB, but the motion picture file will be divided and recorded/played back separately."

I guess this means a 30 min time limit, although it's a little ambiguous. My G7 hasn't arrived yet, so I can't confirm either way.
The 30m time limit, as I recall, is an European model limit.
 
Recording stops when continuous recording time exceeds 29 minutes and 59 seconds.(You can continue recording without interruption even if the file size exceeds 4 GB, but the motion picture file will be divided and recorded/played back separately."

I guess this means a 30 min time limit, although it's a little ambiguous. My G7 hasn't arrived yet, so I can't confirm either way.
The 30m time limit, as I recall, is an European model limit.

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Duarte Bruno
That's usually the case. My GH3 had no time limits, but I'm not so sure with the G7 - guess I'll know soon when I receive my camera.

Still interested to know if it's auto ISO only when recording video with the G7?
 
Recording stops when continuous recording time exceeds 29 minutes and 59 seconds.(You can continue recording without interruption even if the file size exceeds 4 GB, but the motion picture file will be divided and recorded/played back separately."

I guess this means a 30 min time limit, although it's a little ambiguous. My G7 hasn't arrived yet, so I can't confirm either way.
The 30m time limit, as I recall, is an European model limit.
 
Recording stops when continuous recording time exceeds 29 minutes and 59 seconds.(You can continue recording without interruption even if the file size exceeds 4 GB, but the motion picture file will be divided and recorded/played back separately."

I guess this means a 30 min time limit, although it's a little ambiguous. My G7 hasn't arrived yet, so I can't confirm either way.
The 30m time limit, as I recall, is an European model limit.

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Duarte Bruno
That's usually the case. My GH3 had no time limits, but I'm not so sure with the G7 - guess I'll know soon when I receive my camera.

Still interested to know if it's auto ISO only when recording video with the G7?
You have full control of all exposure settings in manual mode - the only mode I would suggest you use for video.

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Good to hear, still can't figure out what the manual is referring to.
 
The main practical differences that justify the price differential are a different body construction and weather resistant features to match the 'professional' two zooms available. Also the far longer battery life and availability of a battery-grip.
Far better buffer I think also.
The differences in video and picture quality and even the control system is mostly academic and of limited practical use. They both take excellent pictures and video.
For anyone serious about video, the GH4 is the better cam too. Mainly with Vlog, but also with the YAG for diehards. I think it has more settings too (different bit rates).
I'd take the G7 for my use but more professional and serious users might certainly justify a GH4. The price difference is just not important to many people who just want 'the best' [even if it isn't really the best].
At the price as a hybrid cam nothing beats the G7 to my mind. Good still IQ, excellent video IQ, great ergo and a huge amount of lenses to chose from. One of several cams that were reviewed by dpreview that should have gotten a gold score to my mind.
 
Hi all, Regarding G7 vs. GH4 and 4k & HD video recording...once the movie recording is in progress, is it possible to change ISO? Or (like Gh2) is it stillonly possible to change Aperture and Shutter speed while video recording is in progress? I am primarily shooting
at 24p on GH2, and will not make use of shutter speed
other than 50. Therefore, I am only able to increase ISO
when shooting in low light, with Panny 14-140 zoom.
Thanks for any info...
 
I can't speak to the G7 but you can change ISO while recording on the GH4.
 
Hi, In terms of Movie recording at 24P, are there ANY distinctions between the GH4 & G7?

Are there any GB or record duration limits that would require a re-start of movie recording ? I need to record long, continuous "takes".

Also: I am curious if there was an overall improvement in the G7 or GH4 to reduce any "jello effect" - which I have come to despise when moving with GH2 (using Panny 14-140 stabilized zoom).

Many thanks for any input.
 
Hi, In terms of Movie recording at 24P, are there ANY distinctions between the GH4 & G7?
The G7 has a smaller crop in 4K to both the GH4/GX8.
Are there any GB or record duration limits that would require a re-start of movie recording ? I need to record long, continuous "takes".

Also: I am curious if there was an overall improvement in the G7 or GH4 to reduce any "jello effect" - which I have come to despise when moving with GH2 (using Panny 14-140 stabilized zoom).

Many thanks for any input.
Not sure, but I think the GH4 still has the least rolling shutter effect of panas cameras.
 
Thanks. Does the "smaller crop" of G7 mean it is
theoretically better or worse (picture resolution or ???) than GH4?
 
Thanks. Does the "smaller crop" of G7 mean it is
theoretically better or worse (picture resolution or ???) than GH4?
Good question........There's a few opinions around saying the G7's 4K is superior - I don't have a definitive answer. I don't think there would be much in it either way. Less crop in general is better though.
 
Thanks. Does the "smaller crop" of G7 mean it is
theoretically better or worse (picture resolution or ???) than GH4?
Resolution is just the same but G7 has better low light performance. They both have the same sensor so the overall picture quality should be just be the same. If you are not after v-log in gh4 then G7 is a very good cheaper alternative. I have the G7 and I absolutely love it ;)

I've done a low light test here at ISO 6400 check this:

For the price I would say it's a damn good camera.
 
Thanks for your comment and low-light link.
All good to know. Not sure I need VLog or
some of the other features of GH4.

I can't think of any $600 camera that offers
what G7 does, except perhaps GoPro.
I am a Lunix loyalist but would consider
anything competitive.
 

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