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I have both the 717 and a Canon Pro90... Canon seems to do a much better job in terms of white balance... You can judge by the below photos:

Sony:



Canon:



I've already tired to manually change the white balance in 717, but none of the result is close to reality.... The color looks fake... Unlike the Pro90 which seems much more natural and close to reality.... Any idea?
 
Mabbe you could try a polarizing filter for outdoor shots? Or change it in photoshop :P
Ferrarieeeee said:
I have both the 717 and a Canon Pro90... Canon seems to do a much
better job in terms of white balance... You can judge by the below
photos:

Sony:



Canon:



I've already tired to manually change the white balance in 717, but
none of the result is close to reality.... The color looks fake...
Unlike the Pro90 which seems much more natural and close to
reality.... Any idea?
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Ferrarieeeee said:
I've already tired to manually change the white balance in 717, but
none of the result is close to reality.... The color looks fake...
Unlike the Pro90 which seems much more natural and close to
reality.... Any idea?
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What did you point the camera at when you made the manual
white-balance setting? A sheet of white paper under the outside
light would do it. Set camera in manual WB mode, fill the frame
with the white paper and then take the one-push reading.

If that's too much work, there's always the Wallace Expo-Disk.
A lot of people swear by them (meaning they like them):

http://www.expodisc.com/
 
wow what a view, can you post some pictures of the view outside your window??
Ferrarieeeee said:
I have both the 717 and a Canon Pro90... Canon seems to do a much
better job in terms of white balance... You can judge by the below
photos:

Sony:



Canon:



I've already tired to manually change the white balance in 717, but
none of the result is close to reality.... The color looks fake...
Unlike the Pro90 which seems much more natural and close to
reality.... Any idea?
Click to expand...
 
In other words you mean swear BY them rather than swear AT them...(except the price). If memory serves there have been a number of suggestions on the forum, such as styrofoam cups etc. to achieve the same thing as the expo disk with $0 cost.
Steven W. Bennett said:
If that's too much work, there's always the Wallace Expo-Disk.
A lot of people swear by them (meaning they like them):

http://www.expodisc.com/
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Here you go...












usurp said:
Ferrarieeeee said:
I have both the 717 and a Canon Pro90... Canon seems to do a much
better job in terms of white balance... You can judge by the below
photos:

Sony:



Canon:



I've already tired to manually change the white balance in 717, but
none of the result is close to reality.... The color looks fake...
Unlike the Pro90 which seems much more natural and close to
reality.... Any idea?
Click to expand...
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I think you may live in one of the more beautiful places on earth. And those are some seriously wonderful pictures.

Dani
 
Thanks for your nice comments ;-) --- This place located in a city called HONG KONG. All of you are welcome to visit us!!!!! Nice scenary, superb food and great shoppings for ladies because Hong Kong is tax-free! ;-)
tai_chi said:
I think you may live in one of the more beautiful places on earth.
And those are some seriously wonderful pictures.

Dani
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tai_chi said:
In other words you mean swear BY them rather than swear AT
them...(except the price). If memory serves there have been a
number of suggestions on the forum, such as styrofoam cups etc. to
achieve the same thing as the expo disk with $0 cost.
Click to expand...
No, personally I don't swear by them. I'm not about to
spend $50, or whatever it is, for a piece of plastic.
 
Steven W. Bennett said:
tai_chi said:
In other words you mean swear BY them rather than swear AT
them...(except the price). If memory serves there have been a
number of suggestions on the forum, such as styrofoam cups etc. to
achieve the same thing as the expo disk with $0 cost.
Click to expand...
No, personally I don't swear by them. I'm not about to
spend $50, or whatever it is, for a piece of plastic.
Click to expand...
Funny, we spend lots more than that on peices of glass (LOL)...
 
Ferrari -

There are a couple of problems with your posts and your samples.

First of all, you do not specify whether you are talking about Auto WB, or if you are talking about the camera's onboard preset batch of WB settings. I suspect you are talking about Auto WB. If this is the case, then Yes, Sony does have some trouble in Auto WB in certain situations. There is more variation than perhaps the Canon cameras, as well as bit more warmth than the Canon cameras, which are usually more "neutral" in color temperature.

Secondly, there is no way for us to know what is the "natural" color of your scene. We can only take your word for it. But that may not be the most accurate way of judging.

Thirdly, your equipment -- camera, monitor, or video display -- may not be well calibrated to a fine degree for enabling a good and distinct judge of the color quality.

Fourth, when working with a mixed blend of lighting such as indoors and outdoors, bright outdoor sunny and indoor shade, then you're going to give the camera a problem. It's not just digital. Even film will have the same issues. You can only give a 'true' balance for one subject at a time, one area at a time. If there is a blend of color temperature involved, then something has got to suffer somewhere. For example, you can balance either for indoor shade or for outdoor sunny, but not really both. You can find something in-between, but this will compromise both areas somewhat.

Hope that this helps the understanding of the complexity of the issue.

--

Ulysses
 
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