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I have been hoping for a 9 or 10 mm rectilinear prime lens for what seems like an eternity. The 10.5 mm Nokton is nice, but I don't want to lug that brick around. F/2.8 would suffice for my purposes. I suspect we will see a warmed-up 12 mm, this time faster than f/2.8, rather than a wider lens. I am getting desperate here!
 
I am waiting someone would make a 7mm f/2.8 prime in body quality of Olympus 60mm f/2.8 macro. (Or like 45mm f/1.8 but with a weather sealing as UWA gets placed near water and ground so often.) Price if would be around 399€ it would be a deal.
 
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FTs 9-18 then.

I happen to like my FT 7-14 on my EM-1 ... :-D ... and on my E-30 ... and .... ;-)
 
OzRay said:
Buy a 4/3s 7-14mm f4 zoom and it will satisfy all of your wet dreams.
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Compared that what was suggested:

1) Big

2) Requires adapter that adds extra costs of 200€

3) It is a zoom

4) It is a slow one

That fourth is the reason why I have avoided the Panasonic 7-14mm f/4. While it is small and light, it is slow (and would have required to add extra UV filter to rear).

I am going to buy the 7-14mm f/2.8 PRO from Olympus when it gets released. But main use will be on 7mm side.

On UWA objectives the wide aperture is important thing, as most of the time I am photographing in low light and every extra is benefitical to get faster shutter speed.

But if there would be a prime of 7mm as mentioned, it would probably delay getting Olympus 7-14mm PRO by a few months. Or I would get that prime after the PRO.
 
10mm f/2.8 - and it's not even that pricey or big

And there's also a 8.5mm f/2.8 from Kowa - but that's a bit big and expensive lens, probably not the thing you are looking for.
 
I never really needed a zoom for uwa, so I would buy a 7mm prime if it gets released. I don't care about filters or the aperture, but it has to be small and light, I would not buy a prime if it's not significantly smaller than the 7-14mm.
 
Astrotripper said:
10mm f/2.8 - and it's not even that pricey or big

And there's also a 8.5mm f/2.8 from Kowa - but that's a bit big and expensive lens, probably not the thing you are looking for.
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The Samyang 10/2, 8 is very sharp in the center but quite soft at the edges according to lenstip.com. That's a pity, it makes it less useful for architecture and landscape.
 
MatsP said:
MatsP said:
10mm f/2.8 - and it's not even that pricey or big

And there's also a 8.5mm f/2.8 from Kowa - but that's a bit big and expensive lens, probably not the thing you are looking for.
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The Samyang 10/2, 8 is very sharp in the center but quite soft at the edges according to lenstip.com. That's a pity, it makes it less useful for architecture and landscape.
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I was reading that review last night. One detail should be noticed

Samyang uses the same 10mmF2.8 lens design for APS-C and M43, with M43 the field of view is of course narrower. (93.4 deg vs 109.5 deg)

The Lenstip review is for this design used on an EOS 50D (APS-C), a portion of the soft corners and edges noted will out of the FOV for a M43 camera.

This review is the only one I can find for this lens on Micro four thirds, it is not as thorough as I would like, and it observes no problem with corner sharpness.

http://www.outdoor-live.com/post/97292172229/review-samyang-10mm-f2-8-and-24mm-f1-4

This next reviews again notes the edge and corner sharpness for Pentax APSC, but highly recommended the lens anyway

http://www.pentaxforums.com/reviews/samyang-10mm-f28-ed-as-ncs-cs/introduction.html
 
MatsP said:
MatsP said:
10mm f/2.8 - and it's not even that pricey or big

And there's also a 8.5mm f/2.8 from Kowa - but that's a bit big and expensive lens, probably not the thing you are looking for.
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The Samyang 10/2, 8 is very sharp in the center but quite soft at the edges according to lenstip.com. That's a pity, it makes it less useful for architecture and landscape.
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Indeed. However, they tested it on APS-C camera, so with smaller 4/3 sensor, you only use a portion of the image. This should improve situation in regards to both soft corners and vignetting (which is also quite severe wide open on APS-C sensor).

Either way, you get what you pay for. The upcoming Olympus 7-14/2.8 will certainly offer better quality, but will also cost 3 times as much as this Samyang.
 
There is at least one superwide rectilinear prime lens, the Olympus 12mm!

Back in the 135mm film days, any lens wider than the 50mm up to 28mm is generally called a wide angle lens. Any lens from 24mm and wider up to 21mm were usually referred to as super wide. Any lens even wider would be ultra wide and unaffordable to mortals, 18 or 15mm. I believe these general those lose definition should be followed to avoid confusion. A M43 lens with12mm FL is equivalent to 24mm and therefore a super wide.

In M43, there are still no ultra wide rectilinear primes from Olympus or Panasonic, and also no AF ultra wide primes from anyone.
 
Astrotripper said:
MatsP said:
Astrotripper said:
10mm f/2.8 - and it's not even that pricey or big

And there's also a 8.5mm f/2.8 from Kowa - but that's a bit big and expensive lens, probably not the thing you are looking for.
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The Samyang 10/2, 8 is very sharp in the center but quite soft at the edges according to lenstip.com. That's a pity, it makes it less useful for architecture and landscape.
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Indeed. However, they tested it on APS-C camera, so with smaller 4/3 sensor, you only use a portion of the image. This should improve situation in regards to both soft corners and vignetting (which is also quite severe wide open on APS-C sensor).

Either way, you get what you pay for. The upcoming Olympus 7-14/2.8 will certainly offer better quality, but will also cost 3 times as much as this Samyang.
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Yes it was tested on an aps camera. The mft sensor is indeed smaller but not that much smaller that we can be sure there's a significant difference regarding edge sharpness. Otherwise it seems to be a very good lens.

The coming 7-14 will obviously be very expensive, so a good not too expensive UW prime would be very welcome. I had the mft 9-18 but sold it mainly because it was a little soft in the edges, hoping that I would be able to afford the 7-14, but now I doubt that.
 
MatsP said:
MatsP said:
MatsP said:
MatsP said:
10mm f/2.8 - and it's not even that pricey or big

And there's also a 8.5mm f/2.8 from Kowa - but that's a bit big and expensive lens, probably not the thing you are looking for.
Click to expand...
The Samyang 10/2, 8 is very sharp in the center but quite soft at the edges according to lenstip.com. That's a pity, it makes it less useful for architecture and landscape.
Click to expand...
Indeed. However, they tested it on APS-C camera, so with smaller 4/3 sensor, you only use a portion of the image. This should improve situation in regards to both soft corners and vignetting (which is also quite severe wide open on APS-C sensor).

Either way, you get what you pay for. The upcoming Olympus 7-14/2.8 will certainly offer better quality, but will also cost 3 times as much as this Samyang.
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Yes it was tested on an aps camera. The mft sensor is indeed smaller but not that much smaller that we can be sure there's a significant difference regarding edge sharpness. Otherwise it seems to be a very good lens.
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17.3mm wide vs 24mm wide. 3.35mm (14%) missing on each vertical edge. Less than 0.5mm on the horizontal edges. But this makes big difference in the corners. And if you decide to use 3:2 aspect in M43, then the margin on the horizontal edges will also be the same 14%
MatsP said:
The coming 7-14 will obviously be very expensive, so a good not too expensive UW prime would be very welcome. I had the mft 9-18 but sold it mainly because it was a little soft in the edges, hoping that I would be able to afford the 7-14, but now I doubt that.
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As Olympus brings in their 7-14/F2.8, Panasonic may drop the price on the 7-14/F4, which by all accounts is an excellent lens. If that goes under $900 I will may well buy it.

I expect the 7-14/2.8 will be about double the weight of the 7-14/4.
 
"I suspect we will see a warmed-up 12 mm, this time faster than f/2.8"

There already is one. The Olympus 12mm f2. Please get your facts straight if you expect people to attend to your rant.
 
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