Compare, please, Aperture and Capture 1

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Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
I should clarify: I am not PRIMARILY interested in which software has the best raw conversions, because I am prepared to go outside the product for raw conversion if necessary. For example, I have a Sigma Foveon camera whose files are not convertible by anything except Sigma Photo Pro or Iridient Developer. So I am seeking a product which does cataloguing and all the other functions in addition to raw conversion.
 
Oh, I meant to say thank you! I have not seen this raw conversion comparison before. Always interesting.
 
I switched from Aperture to C1 pro. I have been very happy with the move. C1 pro provides a few features Aperture never got around to providing, such as lens and perspective correction. I prefer, the highlights/shadows/contrast on C1 also.

With regards the interface, I found C1 much closer to Aperture than LR. I have tried LR a number of times, but the LR menu structures/design and catalog organization just didn't work for me.

For organizational features I found C1 fairly similar to Aperture. The import from an Aperture library preserves all the meta data, ratings etc and this really helps with transition.

The only thing I would say to be aware of is that while I am not aware of any specific limit to catalog size in C1, opening a catalog can be slow on large large catalogs. I was getting maybe 30-45 seconds for a catalog of 50k images, but I am using a Mac mini here and I would expect other configurations to be faster.
 
I need to do more reading and research, in the C1 manual etc., but I haven't figured out the pros and cons of using the catalog (not the session) to hold all the images I import. I got into trouble a few times with Aperture referenced files, when I ran out of space on a drive and moved stuff around. So I am inclined to have everything in the C1 catalog. Any comments or recommendations?
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI,
In another post it sounds like you barely used it. I did the same thing the first time I tried LR.
its raw conversion camera profiles are limited
Like what exactly?
and seem to produce drab results,
It's a RAW developer. You work with RAW to create the results you want. C1 does more editing upon import to trick people into thinking they are getting better results. Lightroom is giving you much more of the equivalent of a digital negative. The rest is up to you.

You can also apply an import preset to all your images to get the same illusion as you do in C1.
and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version.
As far as I recall the standalone version is half the price of C1.
Let's not discuss that!
It would be best not to mention it if you don't want it being discussed.
But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
Poor value compared to the Lightroom/Photoshop subscription and the standalone version of Lightroom. C1s tools, overall, are inferior to Lightroom's. C1s UI is slow, unintuitive, and cumbersome to use compared to Lightroom.
 
Poor value compared to the Lightroom/Photoshop subscription and the standalone version of Lightroom. C1s tools, overall, are inferior to Lightroom's. C1s UI is slow, unintuitive, and cumbersome to use compared to Lightroom.
Not sure what version C1 you were using, but the UI for C1 8.x is certainly not slow. I found it similar in speed to Aperture on the same hardware. As to unintuitive and cumbersome, that is a matter of opinion. I find personally find the C1 UI much more intuitive that LR.
 
Poor value compared to the Lightroom/Photoshop subscription and the standalone version of Lightroom. C1s tools, overall, are inferior to Lightroom's. C1s UI is slow, unintuitive, and cumbersome to use compared to Lightroom.
Not sure what version C1 you were using, but the UI for C1 8.x is certainly not slow. I found it similar in speed to Aperture on the same hardware.
I mean the speed of being able to do things, not once you start doing them. That has to do with the UI design.
As to unintuitive and cumbersome, that is a matter of opinion. I find personally find the C1 UI much more intuitive that LR.
Some aspects of UI are a matter of opinion and some are not. If it takes more steps to do something, even if it's just tool selections, and it can be clearly shown that one UI is easier to use than another, then those are not matters of opinion.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
Your link is one of the best comparisons yet on raw converter comparisons - thank you for posting it, appreciated.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
Your link is one of the best comparisons yet on raw converter comparisons - thank you for posting it, appreciated.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
Your link is one of the best comparisons yet on raw converter comparisons - thank you for posting it, appreciated.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
Your link is one of the best comparisons yet on raw converter comparisons - thank you for posting it, appreciated.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
Your link is one of the best comparisons yet on raw converter comparisons - thank you for posting it, appreciated.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
Your link is one of the best comparisons yet on raw converter comparisons - thank you for posting it, appreciated.
 
Looking ahead to the end of Aperture, I am considering learning Capture 1. Because it has much of the functionality of Aperture, such as raw development, image enhancement, cataloguing and metadata recording, and various output options, it might be right for me.

I have a problem with Lightroom, in that I do not enjoy its UI, its raw conversion camera profiles are limited and seem to produce drab results, and it has that subscription model along with a high cost for he standalone version. Let's not discuss that!

But focusing on Capture One, please tell me if there are any important reasons not to switch to it.
For instance:

http://www.nomadlens.com/raw-converters-comparison/10
Your link is one of the best comparisons yet on raw converter comparisons - thank you for posting it, appreciated.
 
I've been wrestling with the LR/C1P choice for a couple months now, after deciding to leave Aperture. Choosing a DAM/RAW converter obviously a huge decision, and it seems we're fairly locked in with whatever choice we make. There are other options besides these two, any they may be very good options, but C1P and LR are the two that I've focused on as one-stop solutions. Here's some thoughts, in no particular order:

-I've heard all the arguments that Lightroom is more of a neutral "digital negative", and that I need to develop my own import presets in Lightroom, but I just can't seem to get where I want to with this, all the time. In a particular use case, I do a lot of ISO bracketing-- when I import into LR, I can't create a preset that says (if ISO > 400 then NR=25 || if ISO > 800 then NR=60) etc, which is what C1P seems to automatically do (NR and sharpening are very nicely applied at import, most of the time in C1P). For some, they don't want the software making these decisions for them at import. For me, C1 does a good enough job that it's worth it. I can, however, get a good starting point with many other situations in LR using presets I've made. If your camera is supported by LR, definitely choose one of the "Camera" presets, instead of the default of "Adobe Standard" in the "Camera Calibration" pane. This helps with color accuracy a lot, IME. Don't discount LR until you have a chance to experiment and create your own preset-- I think this is essential to the workflow in LR; I didn't know the importance of this when I was first comparing.

-There is no question in my mind that LR has stronger organizational and library functions. There's similar functions for most features in C1P, but they're clunkier and a little less polished, IMO. When I'm performing an initial rate/cull, LR has the "auto advance after rate/flag" feature, which saves me lots of keystrokes and just makes the chore a little smoother. :)

-LR is also more comprehensive, feature-wise, in general. Not having geotagging from a map, LR Mobile (ok, CC only), the new pano and HDR features, etc., aren't deal breakers on their own considering C1P, but cumulatively it's something to consider, especially for me as a hobbyist.

-I really like the customization abilities of C1P. You can program just about any keystroke, which is really useful (for me, color labels and a 100% zoom toggle). I really missed the floating fullscreen UI of Aperture, and C1P more closely resembles this. You can even snap tool panels off and place wherever you'd like.

I am still in an extended trial phase of both, and have clearly not made up my mind. I don't think you can go wrong with either, and it may well come down to personal preference. I just thought I'd share my thoughts from the time I've invested in this so far, in case it helps!
 

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