Don't allow newbies to post

reader · Jul 11, 2003

Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

Doug Walker · Jul 11, 2003

Better to email Phil directly as rule 5 states he doesn't have to time to read posts directed to him.

reader said:
Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

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reader · Jul 11, 2003

It's an open letter, that's why I posted it here. I'm interested to
see other's opinion on this. If many agree, I'm sure it'll catch
Phil's attention.

Doug Walker said:
reader said:

Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

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Melanie Kipp · Jul 11, 2003

Preventing them from posting would end up encouraging them to go elsewhere.

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Glen Barrington · Jul 11, 2003

It would not only drive new people away; but eventually, the entire forum would be populated with a half dozen camera geeks who write in a language all their own and are smugly self aware of their own percieved superiority.

Melanie Kipp said:
Preventing them from posting would end up encouraging them to go
elsewhere.

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kns · Jul 11, 2003

We/They?

What makes you believe that all "Newbies", to this and any other forum, are inexperienced/clueless and cannot contribute? I would hazzard a guess that for a large segment of users it takes all of a minute to understand the organization and culture of the forums. It ain't rocket science. Presumably there are thousands of registered users and only a small fraction violate real and imagined rules of conduct - something like society at large, non?

Re: The public departures

Where knowledge is concerned no one is irreplaceable.

Ken

reader said:
Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

Steven V. Peltz · Jul 11, 2003

I've been lurking, looking and posting on this site for like 3 years+ under 5 or 6 different login names. Everyone is a new user at some point and time...and what better way to get info then directly ask? I'm sure there are specific varibles to each question that may need person attention. And what if their question is unique? Do they wait until their probation period is over before they ask??? That's stupid!!! This is a forum to talk and communicate...if you prohibit that...you lose the essence of this forum.

Point and Smile,
Steve

Melanie Kipp said:
Preventing them from posting would end up encouraging them to go
elsewhere.

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http://www.caughtintimephotography.com

reader · Jul 11, 2003

I'm surprised by the strong reactions so far. I lurked around for
months before even registering. Waiting for an extra month, week
or even a day (whatever wait period would be chosen) isn't such a
big deal in my opinion, specially if it helps reduce the number of
recurring postings. Whether it does is the real question though.

In any case, the topic of restricting use for a short period really
seems to alienate everyone who posted here so far.
I'm learning something.. which was the point of my posting.

kns said:
What makes you believe that all "Newbies", to this and any other
forum, are inexperienced/clueless and cannot contribute? I would
hazzard a guess that for a large segment of users it takes all of a
minute to understand the organization and culture of the forums.
It ain't rocket science. Presumably there are thousands of
registered users and only a small fraction violate real and
imagined rules of conduct - something like society at large, non?

Re: The public departures

Where knowledge is concerned no one is irreplaceable.

Ken

reader said:

Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

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polloloco81 · Jul 11, 2003

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vk · Jul 11, 2003

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reader · Jul 11, 2003

Oh my, I'd usually wonder what that has to do with it but since
you're from US, I know you mean the "c" word as a pretty bad insult.
So, no, I'm very much a capitalist but I strongly believe in regulations,
otherwise you end up with S&L scandals in the 80's and the Enron
and Worldcom abuses of late. It's like policing. There's some middle
ground to attain, otherwise it's anarchy.

and forget my suggestion. If it stirs emotions to the point of name
calling, it's obviously not the best way to go to improve the forums.

Ed Leys20479 · Jul 11, 2003

reader said:
Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

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stephl · Jul 11, 2003

reader said:
Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

I don't like the idea of not allow newbies to post, like other say, less people will join the forum...

I'm on more then one forum, and on some for more then a year now, and I'm sorry to say that I make mistake again, it's not only the newbies, I don't always think in using search

a FAQ will be a really great idea, not a FAQ for newbies to explain what to do or not (we see that each time we send a message)

But a FAQ for all of us, a lot a question come again and again, why not put this question in this FAQ.

polloloco81 · Jul 12, 2003

reader said:
and forget my suggestion. If it stirs emotions to the point of name
calling, it's obviously not the best way to go to improve the forums.

Good, because these forums are made for everyone. Whether a person is a newbie or not, they have as much right to it as everyone else. On a personal note, I don't see what's wrong with 'newbies' posting. There may be some who post before looking, but no one has to answer their questions if they don't want to. Just skip it and move on. And besides, it's not that rampant to make fuss over anyways.
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Mike Waddington · Jul 12, 2003

reader said:
Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month.

I find the notion of restricting access to the forums to be offensive and defeats the object of having them in the first place. Surely this forum exists to help others to tap into the collective knowledge and opinion of a large number of interested people?

The so-called "newbies" are the very people who come here for assistance or advice. Maybe there should be a "Arrogant Geeks Who Just Want to Talk to Each Other" forum - hey that might work! (lol)

Remember that one man's "Noise" might be another man's inspiration

Leon Wittwer · Jul 12, 2003

I don't feel alienated. I just don't think it is a good idea. When I was a "newbie" to this forum, I had been doing digital photography for some years. Should I be limited for a period. The point of sites like this are to answer questions and share info. Yes, I know that they get repetitive as many folks (not necessarily newbies) don't do or know about searches.

reader wrote but, to me, that seems a small price to pay to increase the size and skill of the digital community. The more people coming into digital photography, the stronger the market, the more incentive for manufacturers to make better cameras and the better selection for all of us. I would not worry much about the strength of reactions. Don't take it personal. We have a spectrum of folks. Haven't you heard? Sites like this are good for measuring the degree of socialization of contributors. Some are, some aren't. Leon

reader said:
I'm surprised by the strong reactions so far. I lurked around for
months before even registering. Waiting for an extra month, week
or even a day (whatever wait period would be chosen) isn't such a
big deal in my opinion, specially if it helps reduce the number of
recurring postings. Whether it does is the real question though.

In any case, the topic of restricting use for a short period really
seems to alienate everyone who posted here so far.
I'm learning something.. which was the point of my posting.

kns wrote:

David Martin · Jul 12, 2003

reader said:
Doug Walker said:

reader said:

Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

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...than newbies. Heck they come to a forum to ask a question about something they don't know.
Isn't that what a forum is for?

Smug and patronising attitudes from regulars who can't be bothered to help are a far greater problem.

I don't mean that regarding your post, as it's a fair suggestion, even though one I consider ill-advised.
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reader · Jul 12, 2003

allright, allright. it's a bad idea. It's elitist, communist, egostistical,
idiotic etc etc...

Now let's move on.

Dominic Groß · Jul 12, 2003

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frank perry · Jul 12, 2003

David

I hope you will take this in good spirit,but PLEASE add your comments at the top, not below the poster,I just hate scrolling. Yes i fully Agree with your comments.

David Martin said:
reader said:

Doug Walker said:

reader said:

Phil, another easy suggestion to reduce forum noise.

Don't allow newly registered users to post for the first
month. Lurking around would force them to get familiar
with the forums, the "culture" and maybe even the
search engine.

I also like the idea of a FAQ.

Click to expand...

--
Doug Walker
Check my profile for equipment list.

Click to expand...

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...than newbies. Heck they come to a forum to ask a question about
something they don't know.
Isn't that what a forum is for?
Smug and patronising attitudes from regulars who can't be bothered
to help are a far greater problem.
I don't mean that regarding your post, as it's a fair suggestion,
even though one I consider ill-advised.
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Regards,
DaveMart
Please see profile for equipment

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