a6000 arrived. First impressions from a Nikon user...

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Hopefully this post doesn't come across as "another one of those"...

I ordered the a6000 w/ SEP1650PZ from best buy as their open box special for 449.00 was low enough to motivate me to test the mirrorless arena with arguably the best mirrorless camera (or so I keep reading in here!). Aside from the camera being clearly used with scuffs, a scratch on the screen and missing the eyecup piece these are my first impressions after a day of play:

Size wise, this thing is smaller than I was expecting. Very compact with the 16-50mm lens which will make it a great travel camera.

Included lens seems OK for snaps but will require better glass to really use the resolution of the sensor.

Feels sturdy, a good weight.

Good (not great) customization options.

EVF takes some getting used to but it is bright and big and easy to see. Can also customize and easily change the information that is displayed. Everyone seems to be a convert to the EVF but so far I'm not converted, I still prefer the OVF of my Nikon.

Focus seems to be quick, really quick, in good lighting. Though, in low-light, it doesn't lock on the focus point and often defaults to the larger area (seems to be equivalent to a focus "guess"). My D7100 can focus in near black comparatively.

JPG colors OOC are pleasing and well represented but error on the side of slightly over saturated (which I like anyways).

Lens: Small, compact. Decent focal range. Good center sharpness but soft on edges (not surprising). Still looking for it's "sweet spot."

Lens: Power zoom I thought would be smooth with variable speed that would work with video. Nope. You can't slowly zoom. So, moving the dial slowly causes the lens to jitter as it zooms. Power zoom - lame.

Lens: OSS seems to work well.

Needs more buttons. Yeah, buttons. After you assign the buttons to their functions you want there's still missing functions that require menu dives.

Menu... can be somewhat confusing with oddly grouped items. Though Nikon isn't much better.

Small grip. very small. I don't have large hands at all and found the grip to be barely adequate. It needs an indent on the front-inside of the grip to make it easier to hold. With a bigger/heavier lens I can see this being an issue...

Control dial is placed too far to the right. You can barely hold the camera and spin the control wheel with your right hand. Wish there was a front wheel as well...

Kit doesn't include the body cap, rear lens cap and hot-shoe cover. Not sure why Sony would omit these but annoying they're not included.

Missing some little things that I like on my Nikon, such as one-click focus point reset to center, one-click focus check (zoom image to 100% at the focus point) and a few others not worth mentioning.

Using wifi functions on the camera is finicky and barely works. Often can't connect.

Installing apps via computer/web was an effort in system debugging only to give up and use the camera to do it itself, which is tedious (but it works).

Updating firmware went smoothly despite reading several complaints on dpr.

You can't power the camera via USB connection, only charging. Rather lame as I always have a portable USB power source to charge phones with me.

Lens cap is almost too small. It'll be lost in a week I bet. Would be cool if this was built into the lens so when it collapses it closes.

Well, that's all for now. I haven't commented yet on the most important aspect of a camera and that's image quality. I'm just not thinking that a few test snaps around the house is enough to judge on that aspect. After all, it's the IQ that will ultimately determine if this is a keeper. Despite the few quibbles above I do like the camera but I'm definitely not selling my Nikon gear anytime soon.

If anyone has any suggestions for any of the above mentioned items please feel free...
 
(1.20, or if you are really feeling adventurous, 1.21 which is at the Sony Japan site). It's supposed to make lower light focusing a lot better.

-J
 
(1.20, or if you are really feeling adventurous, 1.21 which is at the Sony Japan site). It's supposed to make lower light focusing a lot better.

-J
That's good to know. I can't remember now if I was focus testing before or after the 1.20 update I did last night... I'll retry it.
 
(1.20, or if you are really feeling adventurous, 1.21 which is at the Sony Japan site). It's supposed to make lower light focusing a lot better.

-J
I'm tempted to install 1.21 but I plan to hold off for now. 1.20 is working well.
 
- Get a hot shoe cover from eBay sources

- switch airplane mode ON (saves some battery life)

- develop from RAW

- EVF is nothing to write home to, I use that only in "emergency"

- your opinion of A6000 will increase drastically, once you add a prime lens, or the 10-18mm zoom lens.
 
Pretty good list, and I agree with most. However, the menu system has become the best I have seen after a couple of weeks use. Been using Nikon for years, but the a6000 menu system is faster and better, IMO.

Congrats on the great deal. I bet you will learn to love the a6000.
 
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- Get a hot shoe cover from eBay sources

- switch airplane mode ON (saves some battery life)

- develop from RAW

- EVF is nothing to write home to, I use that only in "emergency"

- your opinion of A6000 will increase drastically, once you add a prime lens, or the 10-18mm zoom lens.
I agree. And if that prime is the 24mm f1.8 you will think you died and went to heaven.
 
LCD is not sunglass friendly due to being polarized - in vertical position you see black screen while wearing sunglasses.

Eyepiece viewfinder sensor is overly sensitive. Can be fixed with black tape.

Wondering, why did you get A6000 and not Nikon D5500 - pls do tell us. :)
 
It's one of these perpetual internet myths that Sony menus are supposedly awkward, which simply is not true. There are LOTS of options (as there are with every other camera). Besides, cameras are so customizable, that there is very little need for menus, once everything has been set.
 
Hopefully this post doesn't come across as "another one of those"...
Seems a fair enough summary of your observations so far!

Size wise, this thing is smaller than I was expecting. Very compact with the 16-50mm lens which will make it a great travel camera.
Especially those used to DSLRs, it can seem small. But you quickly get used to it. I shoot with DSLRs and had another NEX before the A6000, which was even smaller than this - so for me the A6000 felt big!

Included lens seems OK for snaps but will require better glass to really use the resolution of the sensor.
True...though kit and basic lenses can be perfectly usable, the better lenses will definitely let the dense 24MP sensor exercise its ability.

Feels sturdy, a good weight.

Good (not great) customization options.
Personally, I found it pretty solid for customization - but I guess it depends on what you're used to. You can assign functions to up to 7 buttons on the body which is higher than any other camera I've had, change the function of the jog wheel, and assign up to 12 additional functions to the quick-access Fn menu rather than dive through the primary menus. For me, the key to comfort with a camera is having one-button access to what I consider primary photographic controls: ISO, aperture, shutter, EV, AE lock, drive mode, focus mode, metering mode...I can fit all that on my A6000's buttons, so I'm good. With the Fn menu holding lots of other useful but not-as-often accessed controls like WB, DRO, Steady Shot, etc, plus the ability to store 3 banks of stored settings in the MR1, 2, and 3 memory recall banks - I found this pretty amazing customization for a tiny camera.

EVF takes some getting used to but it is bright and big and easy to see. Can also customize and easily change the information that is displayed. Everyone seems to be a convert to the EVF but so far I'm not converted, I still prefer the OVF of my Nikon.
It may grow on you. As a longtime OVF user, and still current OVF user, I've grown from EVFs being better than nothing, to being usable for some shooting, to being fully comfortable and now capable of pretty much any types of shooting. I still love OVFs, but I can switch between them throughout the day and no longer have the hangups they used to have for me (slideshow, poor panning ability, bad color tearing, lack of contrast and crushed shadows).

Focus seems to be quick, really quick, in good lighting. Though, in low-light, it doesn't lock on the focus point and often defaults to the larger area (seems to be equivalent to a focus "guess"). My D7100 can focus in near black comparatively.
Low light focus reverts to CDAF, so it will not keep up with the overall speed and identical performance of DSLRs in both bright and low light...but you can and will develop more knowledge of which focus modes and focus area will give you the best and fastest results in lower light, which can result in a camera that can be 100% reliable in focus in low light, and while slower than a good DSLR, still well within reasonable focus speed for normal use. I never get focus errors, but in very low light, I don't get DSLR speed...but I don't miss the shot either.

JPG colors OOC are pleasing and well represented but error on the side of slightly over saturated (which I like anyways).
More likely to notice if you're coming from Nikon which tends towards very conservative color. I personally play around with the picture settings on Sony cams to get the color the way I like it: I love 'vivid' mode, which gives a nice contrast tone curve, but is too saturated - so I move saturation down to -1. I also always find Sony's mirrorless cams tend to oversharpen the JPGs, so I also turn sharpness down to -1.

Lens: Power zoom I thought would be smooth with variable speed that would work with video. Nope. You can't slowly zoom. So, moving the dial slowly causes the lens to jitter as it zooms. Power zoom - lame.
I hate power zooms. Truly. I bought my A6000 body only and use it with my old 18-55mm kit lens, which doesn't power out. I really hate how the powerzooms want to compact when the camera goes to sleep mode, then has to pop back out when awakened. I can only say I'm happy I didn't get the power zoom kit!

Lens: OSS seems to work well.

Needs more buttons. Yeah, buttons. After you assign the buttons to their functions you want there's still missing functions that require menu dives.
Which ones, just out of curiosity? Besides the C1 and C2 buttons, you can also program the AE button, the left, right, center, and bottom buttons around the jog dial, and the jog dial itself. And the rest you can place in the Fn menu. Though techically a menu, the Fn doesn't require scrolling through multiple screens of options - it only contains exactly the functions you place there. And if you change the display mode to the EVF mode, all the Fn menu settings are displayed on the screen and can be adjusted by arrowing around the screen to make changes. Might help a little more.

Menu... can be somewhat confusing with oddly grouped items. Though Nikon isn't much better.
Not perfect, but like you say, few cameras are. That said, had you ever seen the menus on prior NEX menus - the A6000's menu would seem as logical as a dictionary!

Small grip. very small. I don't have large hands at all and found the grip to be barely adequate. It needs an indent on the front-inside of the grip to make it easier to hold. With a bigger/heavier lens I can see this being an issue...
Interesting, but this might just be a matter of not being used to small cameras...and it might grow on you. I specifically love the Sony mirrorless cams like A6000 much more than almost any other mirrorless design, mostly because of the grip. I don't like the chunky 'mini-DSLR' style bodies as it defeats the purpose for me of a small registration gap to have a fat chunky body - but I also don't like most 'bar of soap' gripless style bodies. The A6000 splits the difference well by having a small, thin body, but a grip pronounced enough that I can carry the camera dangling from my curled fingertips without applying any thumbforce...my so-called 'hang test' has failed many cameras, even some DSLR designs...the A6000 passes for me even when carrying my FE70-200mm F4 lens onboard - I can hang the entire camera and lens combo off one set of curled fingers around the grip and it won't fall!

Control dial is placed too far to the right. You can barely hold the camera and spin the control wheel with your right hand. Wish there was a front wheel as well...
Fair observation. Some have felt Sony might have been better off swapping the locations of the program dial and the jog wheel.

Missing some little things that I like on my Nikon, such as one-click focus point reset to center, one-click focus check (zoom image to 100% at the focus point) and a few others not worth mentioning.
Fair points.

Using wifi functions on the camera is finicky and barely works. Often can't connect.
Haven't experienced any issues so far with mine - but I have the added advantage of pairing it with an NFC equipped device, so it's just a matter of touching them together for a few seconds and it's done.

Installing apps via computer/web was an effort in system debugging only to give up and use the camera to do it itself, which is tedious (but it works).
Haven't tried many myself yet!

Updating firmware went smoothly despite reading several complaints on dpr.
Agreed.

You can't power the camera via USB connection, only charging. Rather lame as I always have a portable USB power source to charge phones with me.
That would be nice!
 
I received all the caps when I bought my kit. Maybe an open box problem? Someone forgot to put them back in?

Anyway, I know you're a veteran photograph, but this guide is excellent - http://www.friedmanarchives.com/alpha6000/
 
It's one of these perpetual internet myths that Sony menus are supposedly awkward, which simply is not true. There are LOTS of options (as there are with every other camera). Besides, cameras are so customizable, that there is very little need for menus, once everything has been set.
Menus are horrible. Luckily you have to go there rarely, once you set the options up.

I liked Pentax K10D menu system.

I think numbering menu options into numeric groups is a bad thinking. Ppl are not good with numbers. Plus they just separated them based on number of screen lines, not any logic. Put a small icon if you cannot fit text. Group them logically, not by page number.
 
LCD is not sunglass friendly due to being polarized - in vertical position you see black screen while wearing sunglasses.

Eyepiece viewfinder sensor is overly sensitive. Can be fixed with black tape.
I will have to try that. It is a bit sensitive for sure.
Wondering, why did you get A6000 and not Nikon D5500 - pls do tell us. :)
Honestly, a change. I've had D90/D7000/D7100 and a few others and the mirrorless seemed to fit the bill on a couple of fronts, mainly being able to deliver dSLR level IQ and being small/compact in size. The D5x00 would just be another in that line, same thing just marginally smaller.

I also wasn't looking for a D7100 replacement, but rather a backup and travel camera. I still fully plan to use the Nikon for most outings.
 
My Nikon kit is still in my car... but I haven't touched it for any assignments in more than 50 days. Really haven't regretted leaving it in the car either... I do have people question the "size of my equipment". I hand them my business card and tell them to take a look at what I do with the "equipment" I use.

--cheers
 
- Get a hot shoe cover from eBay sources

- switch airplane mode ON (saves some battery life)

- develop from RAW
Nearly always do. But I do shoot RAW+J in everything for quick access to the jpg.
- EVF is nothing to write home to, I use that only in "emergency"

- your opinion of A6000 will increase drastically, once you add a prime lens, or the 10-18mm zoom lens.
The 10-18 is definitely on my short list though higher up are the the 35/1.8 and 50/1.8's.
 

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