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Gunnlaugur Gudmundsson

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I bought it last December, sold it last Sunday. I liked it but never really loved it.

I have the GX7 and earlier the Oly EP3 and EM5. I have grown used to having a tilt screen and a touch screen.

Originally I did not like the fact that the LX100 has a fixed screen, but I thought, 'what the heck' the other benefits out-weight that factor ... so ...

but no, I missed the tilt screen, I don't like not having it ... so, never again a fixed screen camera ...

and then, the lens, I'm not sure ... I had the LX7 and never doubted the lens, the sensor was small. That was the 'perceived' problem. The LX100, I'm not really sure about the lens?

What I will miss is the macro setting. I also really liked the LX100 as a B&W camera ...

But overall, lack of love. :-)

Finally, the size is not that smaller than the GX7, a camera I do love ... so, what's the point and therefore I sold the LX100 ...

This is just my story, I'm not 'dissing' the camera or the choice of others ...
 
I'm about to jump at the LX100 or D-Lux 109, but the tilt screen thing bothers me too. I use tilt screen (or tilt EVF on my E-P5) all the time. I'm wondering if a Fuji X30 with it's 2/3 sensor is a solution for me? Probably not, but it's on my mind. The EVF, tilt screen, and lens on the Fuji are all very nice, it's just that smallish sensor again.


Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
 
trog100 said:
maybe its not possible to love more than one woman at once. :)

trog
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Well yeah, but once you get used to one feature, you miss it, if it is missing ... :-)

All the external dials - exposure compensation etc - look good, but then I shoot Raw so I never really used it ... the GX7 has everything ...

Like I said, just my cup of tea ...
 
James Pilcher said:
I'm about to jump at the LX100 or D-Lux 109, but the tilt screen thing bothers me too. I use tilt screen (or tilt EVF on my E-P5) all the time. I'm wondering if a Fuji X30 with it's 2/3 sensor is a solution for me? Probably not, but it's on my mind. The EVF, tilt screen, and lens on the Fuji are all very nice, it's just that smallish sensor again.

Jim Pilcher
Summit County, Colorado, USA
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Jim, I'm the same, I use the tilt screen, a lot ... I thought it would be ok, but it was not ...
 
Gunnlaugur Gudmundsson said:
I bought it last December, sold it last Sunday. I liked it but never really loved it.

I have the GX7 and earlier the Oly EP3 and EM5. I have grown used to having a tilt screen and a touch screen.

Originally I did not like the fact that the LX100 has a fixed screen, but I thought, 'what the heck' the other benefits out-weight that factor ... so ...

but no, I missed the tilt screen, I don't like not having it ... so, never again a fixed screen camera ...
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That's all understandable. Having a Sony RX100mk3 -- which is smaller, has a tilt screen, etc., with a 1" sensor -- I just was not drawn to the LX100.
 
I can hold the camera up, down, whatever and still see the screen on angle, even when it's not tilted parallel to my face. I then realized it doesn't need to tilt. That wouldn't buy me much.

I love having a dedicated aperture control and shutter speed visually right in front of you too vs on the screen. I love this camera.
 
trog100 said:
maybe its not possible to love more than one woman at once. :)
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Oh, loving 2 (even 3 or 4) women is no problem for me, but more than "1" camera, no way !!!

Of course I use the eye-level is essential, but I have to state that I will never have a camera again w/out FULLY-articulating LCD.

I use it very frequently for creative shooting positions, (low "ground" level or held "high", or even off to the side or waist-level for "covert" street-shooting).
 
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The differences between the ways of using a camera is interesting. I prefer a viewfinder to take the pictures, and only use the screen to review them.
 
Hi Jim,

Looking at the X30 ... seems a good buy too.

I do wonder though ... whether that would be a true "upgrade" from an LX7 ?!

If you want it all (articulated LCD, touch) there are bigger, yet more expensive, camera's to choose from.

Or, just maybe ... the rumoured Sony 6100 ? I would wait just one more month for that one, who knows ?

Personally I would keep on to that LX7 (with addon EVF) of yours :-)

Just my 2c
 
i own three M43 bodies.. GX7 G6 and the tiny GM1.. plus the LX100 the FZ000 and three sigma merrills..

the one i "love" the most is the FZ1000 purely because of its do most things versatility..

the LX100 is a nice easy carry short zoom indoor low light camera.. it is what it is.. good for what its good at just like all my other cameras are.. they are all missing something.. he he..

my perfect camera would be one with the usability of the FZ1000 and the image quality of the sigma merrill.. but we can all dream.. he he..

i bought my LX100 with the idea if getting rid of my GX7 and the 12-35 2.8 lens that lives on it.. but whilst its an ideal easy carry low light camera its good light image quality is a wee bit on the soft side for me.. i may have a less than perfect copy i dont know but mine lacks what i would call "tack sharpness".. but i still keep it because of its other good points..

back to that old horses for courses adage.. :)

trog
 
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camfan1 said:
Looking at the X30 ... seems a good buy too.

I do wonder though ... whether that would be a true "upgrade" from an LX7 ?!
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I used both the lx7 and x20 for a year, and got clearly better image quality on the fuji, the x30 is slightly upgraded, yet sadly has the same small sensor as x20

Autofocus is much more reliable on panasonic, and the wideangle is truly useful, as is the general speed of use and settings, especially using an autolenscap and 52mm filters on the adaptor!

For image quality and the great feel of manual zoom the fuji is the one i would prefer to use if i had no urgent focus subjects, and the tilting screen of x30 makes it nicer to use as well, the colour quality feels more realistic, and there is a stop less noise, on the cost of less antishake though, so in low light it is again better using a panasonic which can focus...

After many considerations instead of upgrading my x20 to x30 i got the gx7 and love it, same speed and trustworthyness of the lx7, tiltscreen and zoom lenses, plus way better iq than the others, also very ergonomic

To make video i also prefer the panasonic settings and quality, even though i miss a mic jack that x30 has - though i can always use a dedicated sound recorder and easily sync instead
 
I was tempted by the camera but solved the problem and saved a lot of money buying a Samsung NX3000. Not so good for controls and lack of EVG is annoying but an uncropped 20mp aps-c sensor and a flip up screen and the same reach for 1/3 of the price. Hold it upside down and the screen points down so no problem. Sensors are probably a big problem for Panasonic as Sony and Samsung seem to be getting really good performance at high pixel counts. The fast lens on the LX100 helps against the slow aps-c kit and probably wins but at a price.

I think if they can get the new Sony 20mp sensor in the LX100 it will be a different story. The thing that worried me is that with the sensor already cropped the 3x reach does not give much capacity to blow up details.

It is a new concept in cameras though and will turn in to something special I think. Probably doing a great job for many people with its great control layout and fast lens but falls below my bang for bucks threshold. I hope more manufacturers drop the mode dial and put use an aperture and shutter speed dial. Probably if I owned one I would love it but not to be.
Gunnlaugur Gudmundsson said:
I bought it last December, sold it last Sunday. I liked it but never really loved it.

I have the GX7 and earlier the Oly EP3 and EM5. I have grown used to having a tilt screen and a touch screen.

Originally I did not like the fact that the LX100 has a fixed screen, but I thought, 'what the heck' the other benefits out-weight that factor ... so ...

but no, I missed the tilt screen, I don't like not having it ... so, never again a fixed screen camera ...

and then, the lens, I'm not sure ... I had the LX7 and never doubted the lens, the sensor was small. That was the 'perceived' problem. The LX100, I'm not really sure about the lens?

What I will miss is the macro setting. I also really liked the LX100 as a B&W camera ...

But overall, lack of love. :-)

Finally, the size is not that smaller than the GX7, a camera I do love ... so, what's the point and therefore I sold the LX100 ...

This is just my story, I'm not 'dissing' the camera or the choice of others ...

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PhotoTeach2 said:
trog100 said:
maybe its not possible to love more than one woman at once. :)
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Oh, loving 2 (even 3 or 4) women is no problem for me, but more than "1" camera, no way !!!

Of course I use the eye-level is essential, but I have to state that I will never have a camera again w/out FULLY-articulating LCD.

I use it very frequently for creative shooting positions, (low "ground" level or held "high", or even off to the side or waist-level for "covert" street-shooting).
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PhotoTeach, when I read your first sentence I almost spit my coffee all over my iPad..... I'm still laughing!

Sorry to go off topic, I just couldn't resist commenting. 😂
 
Kevin Coppalotti said:
so, how soft is the lx100? gx7 is sharper i hear. but wouldn't that depend on the lens used?

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sharpness is relative.. all i am going to say is the LX100 images are not as pixel peeping tack sharp as the GX7 with a 12-35 2.8 similar zoom irange lens on..

i bought mine thinking they would be.. dont get me wrong they are sharp enough just not as sharp as what i hoped they would be.. and i am aware that i am being over critical here..

its an easy carry and joy to use camera.. its not a camera to pixel peep at and compare with the best of the best M43 lenses for close up detail..

trog

ps.. this is the kind thing its perfect for.. the GX7 and 2.8 zoom would struggle with such a shot

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Cyril Catt said:
The differences between the ways of using a camera is interesting. I prefer a viewfinder to take the pictures, and only use the screen to review them.

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I to love a view finder but I also value a swivel screen. Especially when I do a high or low angle shot. Being of a certain age and somewhat adverse to laying in the dirt (and getting up from that position)

However I also value the controls on my LX100. It is staying with me.

I appreciate the OP's reasons though.
 
flbrit said:
nearly-an-old-codger said:
Cyril Catt wrote: The differences between the ways of using a camera is interesting. I prefer a viewfinder to take the pictures, and only use the screen to review them. -- Cyril
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I to love a view finder but I also value a swivel screen. Especially when I do a high or low angle shot. Being of a certain age and somewhat adverse to laying in the dirt (and getting up from that position)

However I also value the controls on my LX100. It is staying with me.

I appreciate the OP's reasons though.
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I fully understand the octogenarian difficulty of ankle height shots :-( I have a veteran Canon TX1 to help out with those, and am looking at a Casio ZR3500 to replace it for such angles - as well as over the heads of crowds and around awkward spaces where I cannot get my head.

They suit MY needs: small, light, versatile, and well priced, with reasonable IQ.
 
Reminds me of my feeling about the external EVF of my LX7. While I always wanted a camera with EVF, since I prefer to frame that way, I saw the add-on as a afterthought, and that it would be quite better to have it built-in. Now I'm very happy with it, and its articulating capability makes it quite more functional than a built-in EVF, allowing for more possibilities regarding framing.

Every device has its compromises, and I completely agree that once we get used to a given feature, it's difficult to manage without it, because it gets into our workflow.

I'm also tempted by the manual zoom of the X30 and the quite improved EVF. The tilting screen could in some way compensate the loss of the articulating EVF, but I'm afraid not everything would be better than with my LX7. I also get encouraged by the very good LX7 photos that I find in this forum.

Manuel
 
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