Who goes to airshows?

Maurice Joubert59901 · Jul 10, 2003

There are few airshws inf France, but the one I prefer is the La ferté Alais airshow, which exhibits old planes (easyer to shoot than jets).

Some xamples :

a flying fortress (1944) :

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a Breguet 14 (1917)

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a Morane Saunier (1917)

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Maurice Joubert59901 · Jul 10, 2003

Maurice Joubert said:
There are few airshws inf France, but the one I prefer is the La
ferté Alais airshow, which exhibits old planes (easyer to shoot
than jets).

Some xamples :

a flying fortress (1944) :

http://image.pbase.com/u30/joubert/large/18904503.img_2879_std.jpg

Maurice Joubert59901 said:
a Breguet 14 (1917)

http://image.pbase.com/u30/joubert/large/18904620.img_2645_std.jpg

Maurice Joubert59901 said:
a Morane Saunier (1917)

http://image.pbase.com/u29/joubert/large/18015700.Img_2696.jpg

James Arnold · Jul 10, 2003

We have several in our area (upstate, NY) that are worth going to. One this weekend at the Binghamton Regional Airport (BGM) that will include the National Warplane Museum this year as they lost funding a few years ago at the Elmira, NY site. The Scranton Armed Forces show is not to be missed.....

I'll be taking my 10D, 28-135, 90-300 and 2 gig of CF on Sunday....

Jamie

DBevis said:
I asked in another forum a couple days ago, with no reply...

I know several people have talked about airshows in here and shown
their work.

Well, there is one In Terre Haute, Indiana this weekend. I know
nothing about it or if it's even worth going to it. I figure it's
probably one of the smaller affairs.

Anyone familiar with and/or going to it? It would be nice to know
where the preferred position might be from someone who's been
before.

Then again it may be raining, still, and none of this will matter

Don

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David Hughes124436 · Jul 11, 2003

Hi Maurice,

Thanks for the links. It's nice to see others flying vintage aircraft. I often wish that our Government hadn't given the Wright Brothers' Flyer back to the USA, because it would still be flying here (if we still had it).

The worse thing to do with old aircraft is preserve them as non-flyers.

Thanks again. I wish I had a website, then I could show my pictures of the Bleriot IX flying.

Regards, David

Maurice Joubert59901 · Jul 11, 2003

David Hughes said:
Hi Maurice,

Thanks for the links. It's nice to see others flying vintage
aircraft. I often wish that our Government hadn't given the Wright
Brothers' Flyer back to the USA, because it would still be flying
here (if we still had it).

The worse thing to do with old aircraft is preserve them as
non-flyers.

Hi David

Unfortunately, the french governement is not so generous, and all of these planes are owned by passionate amateurs who rebuild them at their own expense.

Most of the ancient ones are replicas,excepted some of them like the Breguet XIV.

More recent planes (WWII) are very expensive to rebuild and make them fly (insurance, kerosene, etc;;

.

One of the most active association is the Jean-Bapstiste Salis association who has rebuilt recently a JU 52 which flyed for the 1st time this year :

http://www.pbase.com/image/18941273

This association has a website (in french and english) with many links and informations if you are interested like me in ancient aircraft :

http://ajbs.com/

David Hughes124436 · Jul 11, 2003

Hi Maurice,

Thanks for the photo and link.

Please don't think (even for a second) that our Government is generous. The planes are all in a private collection. Luckily the collection was started in the 1930's and has a large supporters club. So volunteers do all the maintainence, repairs etc. The air shows raise money also.

Have you looked at the link I gave for the collection?

Regards, David

Tom O'Neil · Jul 11, 2003

BigDaveSD said:
Robin here - so I exaggerated it a bit - golly gee Batman
The freeways are tied up for miles and there are hours long wait to
get into the Base - Security checks really slow things down. What I
have seen from my view is a great show. I checked I actually
thought they had over 300,000 each day - guess not.

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Supposedly Las Vegas is huge also, 500,000, Nov. 15-16 this year. I'm used to shows of maybe 50,000, so I'm not sure whether I will care for a mob like that. With that many people there is it just insane or can you see what's going on?

Omigod, we're not OT are we? Better add this: The 100-400 on a 1D is the best setup for an air show, bar none, IMO. Rhode Island a few weeks ago:

Tom O'Neil · Jul 11, 2003

Absolutely, a 100-400 should be more than enough lens without a TC.

I've got a 1D so I don't even think twice about trusting the AI Servo. It definitely works. And with a 1D the 8fps really helps with getting the opposing planes. Shutter speed here is only 1/400 and I'm panning with the upper plane.

Tom O'Neil · Jul 11, 2003

David Hughes said:
This is my favourite:-

http://www.shuttleworth.org/default.htm

and a lot of people cross the Atlantic to visit it on flying days.
Awesome is the best word to describe it.

You don't get many chances to see a 1909 Bleriot flying...

For WWII planes, it's worth crossing the pond for the air shows at the Imperial War Museum - Duxford. This weekend is the Flying Legends show. Incredible sight to see the number of Spitfires and Mustangs that they can put in the air all at once. I went last year and MIGHT go next year. They also have about three other shows during the year. On Topic - Last year's Flying Legends was the event that convinced me to go digital after coming back from England with 14 rolls of film to process and scan.

http://www.iwm.org.uk/duxford/airshow2003.htm

Lime · Jul 11, 2003

October will be a busy month in Ca for airshows.

Edward's is always fun, only about an hour NE from LA. Will also be going to the smaller Long Beach Airfest & San Francisco Fleet Show.

I'll be going with a 10D & 100-400L IS to hopefully catch the action.

skeys · Jul 11, 2003

Holy Mother of the Sky... What timing, what a vantage point. Wow.
Take a look at Jay's shot titled Blue Angels 4-5 at the link below.
I thank you, Jay, for sharing.
Steve
Jay's site:

Jay49250 said:
http://www.touchoffrench.com/airshow/index.htm

skeys · Jul 11, 2003

Thom said:
The second photo shows you where I was when I took these.

It appears, to me, you were in the rigging of a large boat, or ship. To get there, I would have to be drugged unconcious and dragged up by someone else, LOL.
Steve

Thom98829 said:

herb kauhry · Jul 11, 2003

skeys said:
skeys said:

http://www.touchoffrench.com/airshow/index.htm

Click to expand...

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skeys · Jul 11, 2003

I have seen the Blue Angels on numerous occasions in the Bay Area and Stead in Reno.

When the Blue Angels do a pass by, one over the other, although they appear to be very close to one another, they are actually flying about 30-50 feet away from one another, horizontally, if you could draw a line on the runway where they pass. STILL pretty close at the speeds they are traveling.

This being the case, would there be any way to get both planes in focus when they cross?

Anecdote: At one show in Reno, maybe 10 years ago, the Canadian Snowbirds put on a show. I was at the west end of the runway. Two men were sitting in chairs on top of a 5th-wheel trailer when the Snowbirds came in from the West. The first Snowbird came in so low, both men jumped out of their chairs and landed prone on top of the trailer. LOL, just gotta love those Canadians.
Steve

skeys · Jul 11, 2003

I am referring to the precision and planning Jay did to get that shot.
Steve

Ed Beaver · Jul 11, 2003

BigDaveSD said:
I actually live under the flight path of many of the Planes that
partake in the "Miramar Air Show".

I also live under Miramar's flight pattern. Where are you? Respond via email if you wish.

Ed

Peter@O · Jul 11, 2003

skeys said:
I have seen the Blue Angels on numerous occasions in the Bay Area
and Stead in Reno.
When the Blue Angels do a pass by, one over the other, although
they appear to be very close to one another, they are actually
flying about 30-50 feet away from one another, horizontally, if you
could draw a line on the runway where they pass. STILL pretty close
at the speeds they are traveling.
This being the case, would there be any way to get both planes in
focus when they cross?

Anecdote: At one show in Reno, maybe 10 years ago, the Canadian
Snowbirds put on a show. I was at the west end of the runway. Two
men were sitting in chairs on top of a 5th-wheel trailer when the
Snowbirds came in from the West. The first Snowbird came in so low,
both men jumped out of their chairs and landed prone on top of the
trailer. LOL, just gotta love those Canadians.
Steve

Michael Salzlechner · Jul 11, 2003

The focus shouldnt be a problem (DOF that is). The main issue is motion as you are following one plane and the other one going the opposite way now has twice the speed.

Here are a few examples

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Michael Salzlechner
StarZen Digital Imaging
http://www.starzen.com/imaging

photos at http://www.salzlechner.com/photo

Doug Walker · Jul 11, 2003

Mike Salzlechner said:
The focus shouldnt be a problem (DOF that is). The main issue is
motion as you are following one plane and the other one going the
opposite way now has twice the speed.

Here are a few examples

--
Michael Salzlechner
StarZen Digital Imaging
http://www.starzen.com/imaging

photos at http://www.salzlechner.com/photo

--
Doug Walker
Check my profile for equipment list.

Michael Salzlechner · Jul 11, 2003

Doug

Forgot to mention they where taken with a 1D and 500 F4.5 L, ISO 200 manual exposure at F8 at 1/1000.

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Michael Salzlechner
StarZen Digital Imaging
http://www.starzen.com/imaging

photos at http://www.salzlechner.com/photo

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