larryis1
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Where can this adapter be purchased in the U.S.?
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Now this seems interesting to me. An ability to have AF and a limitless assortment of lens.
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The AF electronic adapter to M4/3 is interesting and likely to be on my must have list as I am still well stocked with Canon EF lenses. However I have done my experimentation already with aps-c NEX and FF A7 bodies. I have Metabones, RJ and Fotga adapters both in plain and in focal reducer combinatons. The auto focus speeds are variable both by brand and specific lens. Presently my newish (cheap) Fotga out focus guns the older ones in my fleet.
Adapters for various legacy FF capable lenses have been available for the M4/3 mount in plain or focal reducer form for some time now - including a MF electronic adapter or Canon EF from Metabones. This is all very well but the forum has hardly been afire with stories about their use or questions about them.
I can recommend a M42 to M/3 focal reducer adapter (for example) to anyone as an excellent purchase for M42 mount lenses which have be a still buyable proposition for anyone wishing to experiment. MF is not that hard. And the cost of such an adapter is a whole lot less than the new Kipon one.
I think that after the first flush the chat about the Kipon AF adapter will soon enough fall back into the category in which it exists - a handy to know niche product only.
So for someone with a real use for this adapter and some experience in using similar type adapters on other bodies I just have a touch of reality. These can be useful tools if the need is present but I would stop short of declaring them a wonder device.
If others can sell similar type adapters for ony FE mount for US$80 then the Kipon one is simply leveraging off being first and their own undoubted good name. They cannot really be seen as looking to sell a squillion.
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Pedagydusz
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I am in that category - bird photography with Canon, so I have Canon lenses. But will they AF fast enough? I wait to see, and meanwhile hope that the MZD 300 f4 arrives...
Bhima78
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It's one thing to have AF... many other adapters for other systems have it like the ones for Sony using Canon lenses. The AF is sluggish at best. I doubt this will be any different really, but if its at least in the realm of quick enough for slow moving/stationery subjects, I can see this being a boon overall.
Sergey Borachev
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There obviously will be people going from Canon to Sony, but there will also be those who wanted to try M43. The M43 crop factor is a disadvantage when considering old dslr lenses, but it could be fine for the tele lenses. I don't think those switching over want to keep using their old lenses. Is so, they would indeed go to Sony. One big reason for them to want to switch is to use small but top quality lenses. There is no such thing as small top quality lenses for Sony. I believe there are numerous swaying Canon users and ageing photogs, and this cheap adapter will give them another nudge to try M43. Three are many reasons why M43 is superior when compared to Sony, IBIS, AF, in camera 4K, size and price of high quality lenses, selection of lenses ... I was talking about those Canon people having a cheap way of trying M43 before switching and buying lenses.
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Sergey
Maybe I was one of those that were swaying and I swayed. I bought Sony and have been using these cameras with Canon EF lenses for some time now.
In the light of that experience I am not sure that I would be swaying from a Canon dslr body to a M4/3 body. But I guess some people will try anything and after all some M4/3 bodies are almost as big as the smaller Canon dslr bodies (grin).
Are there in fact any posters on this thread who have come to M4/3 via Sony from Canon EF? I have no Sony oem lenses and my prime purpose was to use my Canon EF lenses on Sony bodies and I am content to continue to do this. I am hardly likely to throw away my Sony bodies for the presumption that a 4/3 sensor from Sony will peform better than (say) a FF sensor from Sony.
I bought into M4/3 for extreme small and compact and have satisfied this with the GM1 and GX7. I am far from sure that these are suitable bodies for my Canon EF lenses but I am willing to give it a try. The Sony A7 series might be more compact than the Canon dslr bodies and supports a FF sensor but it is not lighter in any significant way and a more awkward camera to use.
There is no way that I would be overcome with lust for a smaller-large slr M4/3 style body with 2x crop factor merely to escape the tyranny of the dslr. My nine year old FF Canon 5D body still keeps up with the latest M4/3 sensor offerings. I feel no need to upgrade to M4/3 for that purpose alone. I came to M4/3 for its compactess and slapping my Canon EF lenses on a M4/3 body is not going to get this for me. But if I can do so for little expense then I will certainly give it a try.
I am not speaking against this new adapter but trying to give its presence some perspective. I don't think it will produce any flood of new users to M4/3 but if you already have a M4/3 body and some Canon EF lenses in a closet then it surely would be worth a try and a laugh.
But to think that rusted in Canon dslr users will immediately change horses with a sigh of relief is a real joke.
Sergey Borachev
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I agree with your points re the FL confusion completely. I also think there should be a new unit and terminology adopted by the industry to make things easier. How about EFL and emm?
If everybody starts to call a lens like the Voightlamder 17.5mm f/0.95 a 35 emm lens and also label it as such, and the Fuji 24mm also a 35 emm lens, and ask about the EFL of a lens instead of the physical FL, except when necessary for day engineering discussions, wouldn't it be easier? Of course there is also FOV in degrees do you really want to use degrees?
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We need to have a few enthusiastic first volunteers to test them. My hand is up for a free one (or three) ....
But my experience AF when EF lenses are used on these types of adapters is that AF speed varies by adapter and lens. The lightweight cheap Canon EF 50/1.8 focuses like a runaway train and larger heavier lenses vary from "slow" to not at all. The actual push coming from the camera battery is something rarely talked about.Battery packs for M43 bodies are not really that common.
Heyseuss Hoolio
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I think when talking to others about focal lengths (not on this site but in person), it depends who you're talking to in order to phrase actual focal lengths or FF equivalent fields of view, or even APS-C equivalent...
Even then it's sometimes confusing what to say without explaining it, because a lot of beginners into photography buy an entry level DSLR with an 18-55 kit because it's a "DSLR" which is right in the middle of m4/3 and FF for crop factor comparison. Then they don't necessarily know about crop factor let alone what m4/3 is or the fact it has a different mount all together. So when discussing lenses you almost have to asses their knowledge of crop factor/equivalence.
For example, an uninformed APS-C person likes the photos from a certain m4/3 lens and wants that lens. They ask you what lens it is and how much. What do you say? Do you tell them the focal length, do you tell them the equivalent FF FoV? Or do you guide them as to what lens they'd need for their specific format that will give them the same field of view-which probably will be a completely different price than the m4/3 equivalent.
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