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How come Fuji is the only company that is capable of making wide angle without distortion.

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Other camera companies achieve it this way. Fuji is restricted by the same laws of physics as everybody else.
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Tom

Look at the picture, not the pixels
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Misuse of the ability to do 100% pixel peeping is the bane of digital photography.
 
If the software is correcting it in-camera, I'm curious if there's an option to get the fully distorted version? Only because I kind of like the distortion for some shots.
 
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.
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It's not without distortion, it's just negligibly low at around 0.4%. It's certainly not true that other companies can't do this. For example, Sigma's 8-16mm has even less distortion at 14mm than the Fuji.
 
Chris Malcolm said:
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.
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For example, Sigma's 8-16mm has even less distortion at 14mm than the Fuji.

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I wouldn't want to have to check my zoom range all the time, just to avoid distortion, it would be super uncomfortable.

The canon people mentioned seemed to have little to no distortion, but it's $2999

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TrapperJohn said:
Two UWA's that are noted for their lack of distortion.

Note that the Nikkor is for FF, while the Oly is for 4/3, so they produce about the same AOV.

I have great respect for the Fujinon lenses, but they're not the only terrific lenses made.
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(the way this forum softens up pictures until it's barely readable is ridiculous btw)
 
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More Keepers said:
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.

Why are their lenses so amazing at resolving distortion, anyone know?

It doesn't seem to be flange distance, because their flange distance isn't very different from other mirrorless, that have massive amounts of distortion at 14mm.
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Distortion is so easily correctable it's not a big worry today. I would accept more distortion for better sharpness, especially across a zoom range.
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you're going to lose sharpness by fixing distortion too, the pixels get moved and everywhere where there are gaps, it uses interpolation

I get some people don't care, but the argument sharpness > distortion, is weird, because fixing distortion causes loss of sharpness

of course, some ppl don't care at all about any distortion, that's fine
 
Aur said:
More Keepers said:
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.

Why are their lenses so amazing at resolving distortion, anyone know?

It doesn't seem to be flange distance, because their flange distance isn't very different from other mirrorless, that have massive amounts of distortion at 14mm.
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Distortion is so easily correctable it's not a big worry today. I would accept more distortion for better sharpness, especially across a zoom range.
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you're going to lose sharpness by fixing distortion too, the pixels get moved and everywhere where there are gaps, it uses interpolation

I get some people don't care, but the argument sharpness > distortion, is weird, because fixing distortion causes loss of sharpness

of course, some ppl don't care at all about any distortion, that's fine
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With more resolution at the sensor distortion correction has practically no noticeable effect. These corrections in camera and post processing are the norm today. This is often done in camera with many M43 cameras with little impact on the image quality. Get over your fear of modern post processing.
 
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Aur said:
fmian said:
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.

Why are their lenses so amazing at resolving distortion, anyone know?

It doesn't seem to be flange distance, because their flange distance isn't very different from other mirrorless, that have massive amounts of distortion at 14mm.
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Auto lens corrections in software perhaps??
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naw, this is the distortion for their 14mm

it's flatter than a bowling alley
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I read his response differently as follows:

Since it is possible to correct distortion in software for almost all lenses with a known profile, it is unnecessary to spend the additional engineering or manufacturing costs of perfecting the distortion of the raw image.

Personally, I would probably pay no more than a 10% premium on a lens with no distortion if software can correct it for me automatically.

Obviously this only applies to digital. Scanning a print to correct for distortion seems like it would lose quality in the process. Might be worth more for film cameras.
 
for one thing they ALWAYS made and where famous for their wide angles

lots of experience
 
then take a good look at the Zuiko 7-14mm, which is much wider and virtually distortion free, not only that but it's done optically as well, not via software.
 
But then again, Fuji has made superwides with little or no distortion where the lens alone made this possible: No in camera correction, just serious glass at work, albeit in the 'old days':

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Because they figure if they're gonna make you wait so long for their camera to AF, they owe you something at least.
 
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I made a pretty good living doing high end video stuff. And Fuji was at the top of the list for making great zoom video camera lenses. And I mean like $10,000.00 to $50,000.00 lenses. So they are not new to the dance. They, like Sigma now are at the top of their game.

Fuji made great MF lenses also years ago. So they know their stuff. No surprise they are good at it.
 
You have totally missed the point of what Fimian is saying. You can have a horribly distorted lens but as you can define the distortion, you can fix it in software.
 
Aur said:
here is a list from all canon lenses at 1 to 24mm, they all have relatively high distortion

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Wait.. based on the info you posted about the Fuji lens, it has 0.4% distortion.
Most of these Canon lenses have less distortion than the Fuji lens. In particular the 10-22 with 0.2%.
Am I reading this wrong?
 
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.

Why are their lenses so amazing at resolving distortion, anyone know?

It doesn't seem to be flange distance, because their flange distance isn't very different from other mirrorless, that have massive amounts of distortion at 14mm.
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Zeiss Touit - very low distortion. 12mm.
 
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.

Why are their lenses so amazing at resolving distortion, anyone know?

It doesn't seem to be flange distance, because their flange distance isn't very different from other mirrorless, that have massive amounts of distortion at 14mm.
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Just curious as a film shooter which older Fuji film camera do you use? Also do you typically shoot Fuji film?
 
More Keepers said:
Aur said:
Fuji 14mm f/2.8

Fuji 18mm f/2

Fuji 23mm f/1.4

Basically, none of Fuji's main wide angle lenses have any distortion whatsoever, a 14mm without distortion can't be found in any other brand.

Why are their lenses so amazing at resolving distortion, anyone know?

It doesn't seem to be flange distance, because their flange distance isn't very different from other mirrorless, that have massive amounts of distortion at 14mm.
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Just curious as a film shooter which older Fuji film camera do you use? Also do you typically shoot Fuji film?
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don't have a fuji, have a zeiss contarex super, I don't care what film, agfa or kodak or fuji, they're all a bit the same

wide angle lenses are hard to find for older film cameras

I do have a DSLR canon crop, so I want a wide angle lens without much distortion, the 24mm pancake lens has a bit too much distortion (although I might get it), the new 24mm sigma art is too heavy to carry around, the kit lens is only distortion free above 35mm, I noticed fuji has lenses at 14mm without distortion at a reasonable price, so I asked why not anyone else
 
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