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From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone using any camera during the challenge period, and that the "exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or "disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
 
My understanding is that in the "early days" of the STF challenge, the challenge concept was created so that people would go out and actually use their cameras... and take pictures according to a theme, and critique each other's work, it would be a learning experience, and people would have fun.
LilRedSpy said:
I am pretty new here....at this forum. I just wanted to know the
reason behind creating 2 galleries in the first place....

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'They say I have a photographic memory! Too bad the cap is ON most
of the time...'
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I Don't own a Sony camera but I have really enjoyed being in the exebition catagor and would like to be in the elegable. On the other hand I am not sure that it would be in the interest of a Sony Forum to host challenges for all cameras...
My jury is still out.. Dave McMillan
mark30pwr said:
From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have
observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers
based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not
camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category
photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to
participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of
camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the
specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone
using any camera during the challenge period, and that the
"exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with
pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of
camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I
would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next
Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or
"disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the
subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
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zotz
 
mark,

I agree that photographic merit has nothing to do with camera brand. That said, there's nothing wrong with limiting STF's eligible challenge to only Sony cameras. Its a chance to show what can be done with a Sony camera. When someone asks to see examples of a Sony DC I usually refer them to the challenge galleries. A number of the other boards have their own challenges.

I think that a non-restrictive challenge is a fine idea but not thru STF. Maybe such a challenge could be done through the "Open Forum".

Harry

http://www.pbase.com/hpb
 
mark30pwr said:
From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have
observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers
based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not
camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category
photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to
participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of
camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the
specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone
using any camera during the challenge period, and that the
"exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with
pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of
camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I
would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next
Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or
"disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the
subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
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I know I'm stepping out on a fragile limb. 1st, I don't contribute much to the Challenges & I probably haven't any right to say yea or nay. But I have enjoyed everyone entries & have learned from everyone. 2nd. I don't get to even read all the input on the STF... boy, I miss you guys (ahem- working after 25 years of being the Happy Housewife has it's pitfalls. But working for a Christian Mission has it's own rewards!

Okay, okay... let me drag out my soapbox & say my 2 cents worth. I have always been under the impression that the STF Challenges was limited to Sony Camera owners, so we would benefit from other Sony camera owners. We can ask the winner & others "How did you do that?" 8-)

All cameras & the procedures aren't the same exactly. This way we can learn from other Sony owners. No offence to other camera owners. Don't other Forums have their own Challenges? I sure hope I didn't offend anyone, this was not what I intended to do.

Let me drag my soapbox back to it's lowly corner and slip quietly behind the door. 8-D Shayron

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When cheese gets it's picture taken, what does it say? http://www.pbase.com/ybnormal/galleries
 
Tom123 said:
Meant Harry's. Sorry.
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Me too, same as Harry, new as I am to the challenges I'd like to keep one for Sony's....
JJ
 
I echo Harry's well stated sentiments and would add the following:

I learn a lot from the eligible gallery about what I can expect my Sony camera to do technically. I learn to "see" from entries in both the eligible and exhibition galleries.

I think the exhibition gallery allows anyone to show their work, with any camera from any time, and join in the fun. The STF challenges are richer for that. Still, people come to STF because of Sony cameras and I think the difference between eligible and exhibition galleries is appropriate.

My 2 cents,

Michael
 
As a new Sony camera owner and future STF challenge participant,
I disagree. I want to see and compare the results from fellow
Sony users.
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RoadRunner
 
I have always been under the impression that the STF Challenges was
ybnormal said:
limited to Sony Camera owners, so we would benefit from other Sony
camera owners. We can ask the winner & others "How did you do
that?" 8-)
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Don't other Forums have their own Challenges? > >

I hear what you are saying. I personally would love to see each EXIF file of those sony cam photos that catch my eye...and we do have forums for other cams here o dpreview.....

'They say I have a photographic memory! Too bad the cap is ON most of the time...'
http://www.pbase.com/lilredspy/galleries
 
There are plenty of other non brand specific challenges around, like dpchallenge. The problem there is that the amount of pictures entered and the amount of voting to do, every week some 250 pictures !!!

I like the slightly smaller community that STF gives. Already here one can see that people have difficulty finding the time to look at and judge all the pictures present (how many vote the exhibition gallery?).

So nothing to do with brand preference, just one way to limit the number of entries.

Willem
mark30pwr said:
From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have
observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers
based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not
camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category
photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to
participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of
camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the
specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone
using any camera during the challenge period, and that the
"exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with
pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of
camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I
would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next
Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or
"disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the
subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
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Well, it is the "Sony Talk Forum Challenge," so I think the eligible category being limited to pics taken with Sony cameras is appropriate. The exhibition category gives everybody else a chance to participate, even those with film cameras. Also, I do like to see what people who have the same kind of camera as I do can create -- gives me hope and inspiration :-). Finally, I agree with willem -- opening it up to other cameras' pics would make voting an impossible task; it's already hard enough as it is with the number of Sony entries we see, and as he says, how many people actually vote for the exhibition pics? Not so many.

Just my ¥2 worth.

Helen
mark30pwr said:
From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have
observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers
based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not
camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category
photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to
participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of
camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the
specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone
using any camera during the challenge period, and that the
"exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with
pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of
camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I
would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next
Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or
"disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the
subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
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Mark,

Yes it's a good idea; No, it should NOT be in STF. It should be in the Samples and Galleries Forum. This is where people post images that are not specific to one camera.

Regards,

Dan.

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mark30pwr said:
From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have
observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers
based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not
camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category
photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to
participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of
camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the
specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone
using any camera during the challenge period, and that the
"exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with
pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of
camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I
would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next
Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or
"disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the
subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
Click to expand...
 
mark30pwr said:
From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have
observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers
based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not
camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category
photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to
participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of
camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the
specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone
using any camera during the challenge period, and that the
"exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with
pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of
camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I
would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next
Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or
"disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the
subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
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Bill B
http://www.pbase.com/bill_b
 
it needs to be taken a step further.

Anonymous posting and stricter voting would go along way to making these challengers fair to everyone.
The Fuji setup is the best but requires a lot more work to set up and regulate.

The canon challenge has made an attempt to making voting fairer but unfortunately its system is full of holes even though at first glance it seems ok.
I just think we need to take a stronger look at the way the challenge is run.
mark30pwr said:
From my experience participating in past STF Challenges, I have
observed that STF'ers photographs are judged by fellow STF'ers
based primarily on photographic merit. This is good.

I've made other observations that photographic merit is not
camera-brand specific. Do you agree with me so far?

Here's my angle... rather than limiting "eligible" category
photographs to Sony cameras only, lets permit all STF visitors to
participate in the "eligible" category regardless of the brand of
camera that is used?

I would suggest that all photographs keep with the theme of the
specific challenges, that the "eligible" category be open to anyone
using any camera during the challenge period, and that the
"exhibition" category be open to anyone, using any camera, with
pictures taken at any time.

What are your thoughts on letting any STF'er with any brand of
camera participate in the "eligible" category?

If the majority of people here think that this is a good idea, I
would suggest that the rules be modified, starting with the next
Challenge.

To make things easier, I suggest stating whether you "agree" or
"disagree" or "still thinking about it" or "no opinion" in the
subject line of your replies.

Here's my vote... "agree" :)
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I disagree because:
-Other forums already have their own challenge

-It’s already difficult to look at every photo to choose the best (they are too many)
 
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