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ezombie said:
tobicy68 said:
I at first saw a white & gold dress, but then I clicked on the links to read some further discussions on this topic and then look back at the picture and now it's blue & black! Now I wanted my eyes to go back and perceive the dress as white & gold but I can't! Whats wrong with my eyes? Is the dress white & gold or blue & black?
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Exactly the same thing!

I was looking at this edited, strictly blue image and then I opened the first page of the thread with the original. I couldn't see white and orange anymore!

I read this morning some people initially saw white-orange and then converted to blue, never to go back.
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Now I'm looking at the original image and and it's changing in front of my eyes from white&orange to blue&black. And when the conversion is over I can't go back to white unless I make a big pause.
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Exactly. I recounted the story of my coworker above, and while I still categorize it in the white/gold arena, I now can, from time to time, see it as plausibly blue. The lesson, of course, is that there is no absolute measure of human perception. There is a whole branch of science devoted to defining and measuring colors relative to human perception, and the methods and definitions have evolved greatly over the past several decades. Even those are the result of combining the different perceptions of different people to produce useful generalizations; there is no single, uniform human perception. As we have experienced, even the perception of individuals can change over time, as a function of intervening experiences and, I suspect, suggestion.

Far from being a demonstration of "correct" and "defective" perception (or "something wrong with your eyes"), this should serve to remind us that our photos will be perceived differently by different people (and at different times) and that we can't hope to impose a "correct" view of our images. More than a little humility is in order!

Dave
 
All I know about all this is I am going to stop buying my dresses on line.
 
It's an example of why we will always need PP'ing, and why auto or preset WB cannot be relied upon to get the colors right.
 
christom said:
GoneMirrorless said:
Photoshop says Blue and Black.
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Photoshop shows gold and a very light blue that reasonably appears as a cool, in the shade, white.

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Lee Jay said:
This morning, I looked at it, and it was a white dress with gold trim illuminated by blue sky and over-exposed.

Now, a couple hours later, it's a dark blue dress with black trim with the background over-exposed.
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One one of the websites, commenters indicated something similar ... white with gold, then they scrolled down to read comments and back up, and saw blue/black. I can't see anything other than blue/black (obviously, I can pick up on the gold reflections off the black) so because of that, I find it intriguing that so many people see it as white & gold. Although, as I mentioned in another post, my laptop screen shows it darker than my 2nd monitor.

- Dennis
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Dennis said:
Lee Jay said:
This morning, I looked at it, and it was a white dress with gold trim illuminated by blue sky and over-exposed.

Now, a couple hours later, it's a dark blue dress with black trim with the background over-exposed.
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One one of the websites, commenters indicated something similar ... white with gold, then they scrolled down to read comments and back up, and saw blue/black. I can't see anything other than blue/black (obviously, I can pick up on the gold reflections off the black) so because of that, I find it intriguing that so many people see it as white & gold. Although, as I mentioned in another post, my laptop screen shows it darker than my 2nd monitor.

- Dennis
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Yes I suspect it's your screen. On mine (calibrated with spyder) there is no black on the dress, just shades of gold, and the "blue" areas are very light and unsaturated, and look just like white would with a cool white balance setting.

It clearly looks nothing like the actual dress because other photos showing the dress colors show true black and saturated blue.
 
ezombie said:
Hi,

there's an ongoing debate on sharing sites whether the dress in the picture is blue with black stripes or white with gold stripes.

What seemed as a pretty simple answer to me turns out to be a thing of a raging debate. I don't pay attention to sharing sites, but I found this topic important because it reflects different perceptions of the same thing. And perception is important in photography.

I'm going to assume that I'm right and that it's a white dress with gold stripes. Are the rest of the people who claim it's blue&black daltonists or they have awful monitors?

The white balance is off. By lifting the temperature you get even more pronounced golds and whiteness. But to me it's clear at first glance that this golden colour isn't black and that bluishness comes from wrong white balance.

Here you can read the debate, so many different opinions:
http://gawker.com/what-color-is-this-goddamn-dress-1688330170

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First time I saw it I saw Gold/White. went and checked on my son and came back. When I came back I looked at the lower left of the picture first. This made the dress Blue/Black. I have not been able to see the Gold/White since. Stare at the lower left black dress in the backround. It will get you to black and blue.
 
My phone makes the light color look light blue. On my calibrated screen, it is bluish-white, like white with a very cool WB. It is probably one of those colors that are very sensitive to calibration and monitor differences.

The gold is ... gold, and PS agrees.
 
J A C S said:
My phone makes the light color look light blue. On my calibrated screen, it is bluish-white, like white with a very cool WB. It is probably one of those colors that are very sensitive to calibration and monitor differences.

The gold is ... gold, and PS agrees.
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thaddiusjude said:
J A C S said:
My phone makes the light color look light blue. On my calibrated screen, it is bluish-white, like white with a very cool WB. It is probably one of those colors that are very sensitive to calibration and monitor differences.

The gold is ... gold, and PS agrees.
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ezombie said:
there's an ongoing debate on sharing sites whether the dress in the picture is blue with black stripes or white with gold stripes.
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It's white and shadow bronze. Inside joke - anyone I've ever worked with would get it.

No, seriously - these are the official colors of net neutrality. They mean one thing to someone and another thing to someone else.
 
n3eg said:
ezombie said:
there's an ongoing debate on sharing sites whether the dress in the picture is blue with black stripes or white with gold stripes.
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It's white and shadow bronze. Inside joke - anyone I've ever worked with would get it.

No, seriously - these are the official colors of net neutrality. They mean one thing to someone and another thing to someone else.
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ezombie said:
Hi,

there's an ongoing debate on sharing sites whether the dress in the picture is blue with black stripes or white with gold stripes.

What seemed as a pretty simple answer to me turns out to be a thing of a raging debate. I don't pay attention to sharing sites, but I found this topic important because it reflects different perceptions of the same thing. And perception is important in photography.

I'm going to assume that I'm right and that it's a white dress with gold stripes. Are the rest of the people who claim it's blue&black daltonists or they have awful monitors?

The white balance is off. By lifting the temperature you get even more pronounced golds and whiteness. But to me it's clear at first glance that this golden colour isn't black and that bluishness comes from wrong white balance.

Here you can read the debate, so many different opinions:
http://gawker.com/what-color-is-this-goddamn-dress-1688330170

73e427dc5f964e13ac8b578a21effa18.jpg
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ezombie said:
Hi,

there's an ongoing debate on sharing sites whether the dress in the picture is blue with black stripes or white with gold stripes.

What seemed as a pretty simple answer to me turns out to be a thing of a raging debate. I don't pay attention to sharing sites, but I found this topic important because it reflects different perceptions of the same thing. And perception is important in photography.

I'm going to assume that I'm right and that it's a white dress with gold stripes. Are the rest of the people who claim it's blue&black daltonists or they have awful monitors?

The white balance is off. By lifting the temperature you get even more pronounced golds and whiteness. But to me it's clear at first glance that this golden colour isn't black and that bluishness comes from wrong white balance.

Here you can read the debate, so many different opinions:
http://gawker.com/what-color-is-this-goddamn-dress-1688330170

73e427dc5f964e13ac8b578a21effa18.jpg
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I work with three graphic/print designers and another web designer (I'm a web designer, too), and I saw blue and black/brown, while one of the graphic designers swore it's white and gold.

Interesting discussion about colors and perception, for sure.

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ezombie said:
Hi,

there's an ongoing debate on sharing sites whether the dress in the picture is blue with black stripes or white with gold stripes.

What seemed as a pretty simple answer to me turns out to be a thing of a raging debate. I don't pay attention to sharing sites, but I found this topic important because it reflects different perceptions of the same thing. And perception is important in photography.

I'm going to assume that I'm right and that it's a white dress with gold stripes. Are the rest of the people who claim it's blue&black daltonists or they have awful monitors?

The white balance is off. By lifting the temperature you get even more pronounced golds and whiteness. But to me it's clear at first glance that this golden colour isn't black and that bluishness comes from wrong white balance.

Here you can read the debate, so many different opinions:
http://gawker.com/what-color-is-this-goddamn-dress-1688330170

73e427dc5f964e13ac8b578a21effa18.jpg
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photoshop eyedropper confirms its: light blue/closer to white and light brown/gold AS THE PICTURE REPRESENTS



Actual dress color may vary.



The dress itself, may very well be black and blue, but the photo of the dress, is light blue and gold (ish)
 
Morris Sullivan said:
Dennis said:
Lee Jay said:
This morning, I looked at it, and it was a white dress with gold trim illuminated by blue sky and over-exposed.

Now, a couple hours later, it's a dark blue dress with black trim with the background over-exposed.
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One one of the websites, commenters indicated something similar ... white with gold, then they scrolled down to read comments and back up, and saw blue/black. I can't see anything other than blue/black (obviously, I can pick up on the gold reflections off the black) so because of that, I find it intriguing that so many people see it as white & gold. Although, as I mentioned in another post, my laptop screen shows it darker than my 2nd monitor.

- Dennis
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Gallery at http://kingofthebeasts.smugmug.com
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Yes I suspect it's your screen. On mine (calibrated with spyder) there is no black on the dress, just shades of gold, and the "blue" areas are very light and unsaturated, and look just like white would with a cool white balance setting.
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Nope. I now had it change colors for me three times on the same screen. Best explanation I've seen is in this article:

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www.wired.com
Morris Sullivan said:
It clearly looks nothing like the actual dress because other photos showing the dress colors show true black and saturated blue.
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MichaelKJ said:
Morris Sullivan said:
Dennis said:
Lee Jay said:
This morning, I looked at it, and it was a white dress with gold trim illuminated by blue sky and over-exposed.

Now, a couple hours later, it's a dark blue dress with black trim with the background over-exposed.
Click to expand...
One one of the websites, commenters indicated something similar ... white with gold, then they scrolled down to read comments and back up, and saw blue/black. I can't see anything other than blue/black (obviously, I can pick up on the gold reflections off the black) so because of that, I find it intriguing that so many people see it as white & gold. Although, as I mentioned in another post, my laptop screen shows it darker than my 2nd monitor.

- Dennis
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Gallery at http://kingofthebeasts.smugmug.com
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Yes I suspect it's your screen. On mine (calibrated with spyder) there is no black on the dress, just shades of gold, and the "blue" areas are very light and unsaturated, and look just like white would with a cool white balance setting.
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Nope. I now had it change colors for me three times on the same screen. Best explanation I've seen is in this article:

http://www.wired.com/2015/02/science-one-agrees-color-dress/
MichaelKJ said:
It clearly looks nothing like the actual dress because other photos showing the dress colors show true black and saturated blue.
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This is even better:

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www.nytimes.com
 
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