Samyang 8mm Fisheye F2,8 II or Samyang 8mm F3,5 Fish-Eye CSII

Hi,

I want buy a fisheye lens (for a6000) and this two seem to be the best choices (price/quality), but don't know which one to buy! I read a lot of reviews from both lenses, all of them agree that both are great lens, but I can't find a comparative between the two.

I know the f3,5 is bigger and heavier, but, I think, this doesn't mean necessary that it's better!

Can anyone help me or give me an opinion!

Thanks

On the CSII you can remove the hood

le_alain said:

On the CSII you can remove the hood

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but removing the hood won't make any difference in the a6000 APS-C sensor....right?

NunoFerreira said:

le_alain said:

On the CSII you can remove the hood

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but removing the hood won't make any difference in the a6000 APS-C sensor....right?

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Yes, but not if you want to put it on an A7 serie sometimes !

That's why I didn't buy the 2.8

le_alain said:

NunoFerreira said:

le_alain said:

On the CSII you can remove the hood

Click to expand...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but removing the hood won't make any difference in the a6000 APS-C sensor....right?

Click to expand...

Yes, but not if you want to put it on an A7 serie sometimes !

That's why I didn't buy the 2.8

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So you like the huge vignette on a FF sensor? Get the 12mm 2.8 fisheye for FF.

As for APS-C, the 8mm f3.5 is just a DSLR lens with an attached adapter. The 8mm f2.8 is a mirroless design and it is very good and also quite small (nothing is better on the 8mm 3.5).

JurijTurnsek said:

le_alain said:

NunoFerreira said:

le_alain said:

On the CSII you can remove the hood

Click to expand...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but removing the hood won't make any difference in the a6000 APS-C sensor....right?

Click to expand...

Yes, but not if you want to put it on an A7 serie sometimes !

That's why I didn't buy the 2.8

Click to expand...

So you like the huge vignette on a FF sensor? Get the 12mm 2.8 fisheye for FF.

As for APS-C, the 8mm f3.5 is just a DSLR lens with an attached adapter. The 8mm f2.8 is a mirroless design and it is very good and also quite small (nothing is better on the 8mm 3.5).

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You won't have a circular image with the 12mm, it's a slight difference with vigneting

I was just pointing one difference between the 2.

As you say compactness due to less retrofocus design is another point.

The 8/2.8 is perhaps the sharpest lens on the on the Sony APS-C sensor. It's the lens I put on my 5N when I want to sneak my camera into a venue that doesn't allow anything beyond point and shoots because it's so small. ;-)

le_alain said:

JurijTurnsek said:

le_alain said:

NunoFerreira said:

le_alain said:

On the CSII you can remove the hood

Click to expand...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but removing the hood won't make any difference in the a6000 APS-C sensor....right?

Click to expand...

Yes, but not if you want to put it on an A7 serie sometimes !

That's why I didn't buy the 2.8

Click to expand...

So you like the huge vignette on a FF sensor? Get the 12mm 2.8 fisheye for FF.

As for APS-C, the 8mm f3.5 is just a DSLR lens with an attached adapter. The 8mm f2.8 is a mirroless design and it is very good and also quite small (nothing is better on the 8mm 3.5).

Click to expand...

You won't have a circular image with the 12mm, it's a slight difference with vigneting

I was just pointing one difference between the 2.

As you say compactness due to less retrofocus design is another point.

Click to expand...

12mm 2.8 was suggested as the real option for a FF fisheye. I do not know why anyone would want the circular vignette on a fisheye lens, but that is just my opinion.

JurijTurnsek said:

le_alain said:

JurijTurnsek said:

le_alain said:

NunoFerreira said:

le_alain said:

On the CSII you can remove the hood

Click to expand...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but removing the hood won't make any difference in the a6000 APS-C sensor....right?

Click to expand...

Yes, but not if you want to put it on an A7 serie sometimes !

That's why I didn't buy the 2.8

Click to expand...

So you like the huge vignette on a FF sensor? Get the 12mm 2.8 fisheye for FF.

As for APS-C, the 8mm f3.5 is just a DSLR lens with an attached adapter. The 8mm f2.8 is a mirroless design and it is very good and also quite small (nothing is better on the 8mm 3.5).

Click to expand...

You won't have a circular image with the 12mm, it's a slight difference with vigneting

I was just pointing one difference between the 2.

As you say compactness due to less retrofocus design is another point.

Click to expand...

12mm 2.8 was suggested as the real option for a FF fisheye. I do not know why anyone would want the circular vignette on a fisheye lens, but that is just my opinion.

Click to expand...

That's why one can chose a fisheye over a rectilinear, exemple

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le_alain said:

JurijTurnsek said:

le_alain said:

JurijTurnsek said:

le_alain said:

NunoFerreira said:

le_alain said:

On the CSII you can remove the hood

Click to expand...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but removing the hood won't make any difference in the a6000 APS-C sensor....right?

Click to expand...

Yes, but not if you want to put it on an A7 serie sometimes !

That's why I didn't buy the 2.8

Click to expand...

So you like the huge vignette on a FF sensor? Get the 12mm 2.8 fisheye for FF.

As for APS-C, the 8mm f3.5 is just a DSLR lens with an attached adapter. The 8mm f2.8 is a mirroless design and it is very good and also quite small (nothing is better on the 8mm 3.5).

Click to expand...

You won't have a circular image with the 12mm, it's a slight difference with vigneting

I was just pointing one difference between the 2.

As you say compactness due to less retrofocus design is another point.

Click to expand...

12mm 2.8 was suggested as the real option for a FF fisheye. I do not know why anyone would want the circular vignette on a fisheye lens, but that is just my opinion.

Click to expand...

That's why one can chose a fisheye over a rectilinear, exemple

http://www.linternaute.com/photo_numerique/photographe/photos-en-mode-fisheye/

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I thinking on buying a A7ii, but not for now, and when I do it, for sure I would buy a FF fisheye...the circular vignetting effect from the 8mm f3.5 is great and unusual, but only for some type of photos and to use casually..!

I heard that the f2.8 would give some purple vignetting in some cameras, on the NEX-7, but from what I understand, that doesn't happen in the a6000? Right?

If the purple vignetting is solved, then for sure I will buy the f2.8, is smaller and lighter, and from the reviews it's way sharper than the f3.5. The only thing that the f2.8 looses for the f3.5 is on the chromatic aberration, but well, we can have it all!!