GR replacement rumored

I'm looking forward to the replacement camera. The GR is one of the best compact cameras that money can buy, but it could certainly do with a few refinements. It's not important to me if they call it something else. GR is only a name.

I feel like this camera probably won't get the attention it deserves due to the lack of bells and whistles. Here's a list of things it doesn't need (IMO)

- EVF

- tilting screen

- 5 axis IBIS

- 4K video

- Wifi

- 20 fps

- On sensor phase detect AF
EVF – Yes please………

I use reading glasses and I really don’t like to use them when taking photos. E.g. I see my subject in the distance (without using glasses) and then I need to put reading glasses on to confirm focus. I don’t need to use glasses if my camera has a viewfinder with dioptric adjustment. I would like to buy a GR but currently use a X100s because of it’s viewfinder.

Surely I'm not alone on this?
 
A few things I vote (wish) a new GR would have, in order of preference:

- Fully articulatiing tilt screen. Much more useful than a built in E/OVF for me. Makes it much easier to take high, low, weird angle and carefully composed shots.

- Better dust sealing.

- Add-on articulating EVF.
 
Hmmmm. B&H have upped the price of the GR to $679.12 (although it is still out of stock). Last week it was below $600.
 
Hmmmm. B&H have upped the price of the GR to $679.12 (although it is still out of stock). Last week it was below $600.
Ricoh might have been reading all the feedback from people who are saying that they will soon be buying the/another GR if an improved model doesn't come out! ;-)

If this price increase originates with Ricoh, it could indeed be a sign that there will be nothing new of significance....
 
Hmmmm. B&H have upped the price of the GR to $679.12 (although it is still out of stock). Last week it was below $600.
Ricoh might have been reading all the feedback from people who are saying that they will soon be buying the/another GR if an improved model doesn't come out! ;-)

If this price increase originates with Ricoh, it could indeed be a sign that there will be nothing new of significance....
It is still around ¥60,000 in Japan, with a lot of vendors carrying it.
 
Randomly came across GR for sale online at Staples (office supplies store) a few weeks ago. Same price now as then. Hey, you're buying a copier for the office and realize staff would find a camera useful. :-)

 
OK my post may have been a bit confusing.

I like the simplicity of the GR and hope they don't add a bunch of (IMO) unnecessary features to the camera just to try and get more sales. Here are some things that I would like to see;

- better dust sealing

- full resolution preview when shooting RAW only

- 35mm equivalent lens

- latest Sony 24MP sensor (without AA filter)

- lower base ISO

- USB 3 for faster download speed

- better low light AF
 
Well, unless Ricoh forgot to mention it with their other releases today, the rumor of a new GR is false.
 
PhotoRumors.com reporting that there may be an announcement of a GR replacement at CP+, however the GR name may be gone... If that's the case RIP to a legacy.

http://photorumors.com/2015/02/05/rumors-of-a-ricoh-gr-camera-replacement/
Speculation of course. Sound like a mirrorless option; makes sense as this is missing at the current line up. The GR is fine, issues will hopefully be addressed with future firmware.

I imagine a lot of the GR architecture, may be implemented in a ICL option. It would make a lot of the impressive tech in the GR accessible to a wider audience and further possibilities.
i doubt they would kill the Ricoh name and can't think of a better grip..and CP+ announcement is unlike ricoh too...

and if it is true: hold on to your GR very carefully. you already have a very valuable piece of classic.

The design and brand name change would mean end of a very prestigious camera line going back more than 20 years. why should they do this? it makes no sense to me!
I agree. I don't know why people think that a new name means a similar camera under the Pentax brand. If it's called a Pentax then it's a Pentax, not a Ricoh. A new name would surely just be a new camera model name. Like GX or GS or GY.

Touch screen? I really hope not. Why would a good manual camera need a pointless gimmick like that?

New grip? Do we need one? Unless they bring back the nice rubber of the GRDI
Current GR grip has some know issues with the grip coming loose. I had a camera replaced due to the issue. I agree though, the design is fine. The problem is just they need to access screws under the rubber for repair, so i think they use a weaker adhesive so it can be removed..

I just hope they're not going to start copying the Pentax pimp-up-my-camera styling. The bloody green on/off, 'hey-look-at-me-my-camera's-on', light on the GRDIV was bad enough. .

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'I don't take photographs, I steal them.'
Tungsten Nordstein, 1999
 
Well, unless Ricoh forgot to mention it with their other releases today, the rumor of a new GR is false.
Nikon won't be unveiling a Coolpix A update either.

In 2013 Nikon announced the A in March and Ricoh launched the GR in April two months after CP+ so the timing of both of these cameras is not tied to this show at all.

CP+ 2103 was actually all about the Pentax 'Evangelion' Q10 while we were all desperate for any info or tidbit about the GXR's future, or lack of it.
 
A few things I vote (wish) a new GR would have, in order of preference:

- Fully articulatiing tilt screen. Much more useful than a built in E/OVF for me. Makes it much easier to take high, low, weird angle and carefully composed shots.
Agree completely. Touch screen also enhances usability. Turn it off if you don't want it. Keep the usual GR physical controls.

- Better dust sealing.

- Add-on articulating EVF.
To my wish list, I'll add 24MP, IBIS, and better video quality. Coming in April, I hope. I don't care what they call it.

I just put my superb GR in the "for sale" forum! Cheap!
 
My friend is currently at CP+ and he just sent me a picture of the same old GR that they have on display, so at the show itself there isn't anything new. I wonder if they make announcements throughout the day however.
 
My friend is currently at CP+ and he just sent me a picture of the same old GR that they have on display, so at the show itself there isn't anything new. I wonder if they make announcements throughout the day however.
Hmmm... Doesn't look promising. I would have thought there would have been more leaks already.
 
The new K-S2 looks like a preview of what will be in the GR replacement. They will probably use the same 20mp APS-C sensor as the major upgrade component.

If so, no big deal. I went from the 5DII's 21mp to Fuji's 16mp and there was no noticeable improvement (in large prints), other than the Fuji blacks are infinitely cleaner.

Sal
 
My friend is currently at CP+ and he just sent me a picture of the same old GR that they have on display, so at the show itself there isn't anything new. I wonder if they make announcements throughout the day however.
And DPReview have already reported on Ricoh-Pentax new kit, so it seems pretty clear the rumour is an empty one. Seems unlikely they would put the old GR on display and then announce a new GR. Thanks for the update from your friend.

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'I don't take photographs, I steal them.'
Tungsten Nordstein, 1999
 
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Hmmmm. B&H have upped the price of the GR to $679.12 (although it is still out of stock). Last week it was below $600.
I just bought the GR V bundle with finder and memory card for $596.95 from B&H.
 
My friend is currently at CP+ and he just sent me a picture of the same old GR that they have on display, so at the show itself there isn't anything new. I wonder if they make announcements throughout the day however.
And DPReview have already reported on Ricoh-Pentax new kit, so it seems pretty clear the rumour is an empty one. Seems unlikely they would put the old GR on display and then announce a new GR. Thanks for the update from your friend.
So we're stuck with the old model, which I bought yesterday. I got it today...what a little monster of a camera!

Sal
 
The new K-S2 looks like a preview of what will be in the GR replacement. They will probably use the same 20mp APS-C sensor as the major upgrade component.
It also seems that if they have put efforts into making a small weather-resistant DSLR, the KS-2, they will probably not put out an environmentally-sealed GR. Which is very unfortunate for those of us who are dreaming of such a camera. Let's hope that the next GR will at least have better sealing. Or that maybe Nikon will make a WR Coolpix A model.
 
My GR came bundled with the VF, and I don't like using it. At wide angles like 28mm, I don't really need pinpoint framing. Also as someone mentioned, I've never had a problem seeing the screen in sunlight since its brightness can be set pretty high.
A few points

The Panasonic GM1 is quite a lot smalller physically than the GR. However the GR is a smaller camera simply because it folds flat. The GM1 with its lens mount and any lens whatsoever is bulkier. Therefore there is a lot of merit in the GR just as it is with fixed prime lens and a very compact packaging. Besides the GR is a very capable camera and also can be fine tuned to personal preferences.

However it does not go far enough for many. Once you sacrifice the compact mature of the fixed collapsing prime the size advantage flies out of the window. Much has been made of multiple GR cameras each with a different lens permanently fixed. There is some wild imagination that they will all be compact and perhaps folded like the present camera. Not possible I say. Any new lens would be just a lens and protrude just like any other lens. It might be possible to make folding lenses, even zooms, but they will take a while to get on to the market and they will be relatively slow. Ricoh just cannot have the turnover in market penetration to make this happen. Even if byy some form of wild speculation Ricoh decided that this was the way forward there would be a very long drawn out gestation of a range of suitable lenses.

On the other hand those that wish to do this can simply buy several quite reasonably prices Panasonic GM1 bodies and fit each with the lens of their choice from the wide range of M4/3 lenses already on the market and panting to be bought.

Weather tight and rugged will signify more size/cost for the former and a possible loss of perfomance in the other. People might like these ideas but they might not like paying more.

Dust sealing - well everyone will be happy. Maybe what is really needed is no dust sealing (a mount and exchangeable lenses) for that the inevitable dust can be readily removed?

Closeout sales? The closeout sale for the GXR went on for .... lets say "four" years in steps and stairs pricing - you can probably still buy a new old stock one today. Ricoh is not known for fire sale closeout and typically up to three or more of the old R and CX series cameras were marketed simultaneously at steps and stairs pricing.

The "old" GR if it is still around when "replaced" will be a bit cheaper (as it is now) but maybe never an utter bargain. Best buy now as maybe the new version will not appear until the stock of the current model reduce to a preset trigger level.

I also have not had a great deal of trouble with using the lcd on any of the GRD/GR models. But to hear some of the talk on other forums no camera is complete without 3-way (minimim) IBIS + evf + tilt/articulated lcd. I might wonder why such a backward camera as the GR is such a pleasure to use ... ;)
 

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