Anyone considering the upcoming FE 28/2 lens? I little bit wider would be nice and I'm not sure on the quality on the wide converters. The 21mm converter would be nice, but the bulk on the front doesn't suit me. Might have to stick to my Leica 21 until they do a bit wider or wait for Zeiss.
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New Sony FE 28/2
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Snikt228
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Yes but only if the price is right (to me $499-599 for this lens) and it has at least decent IQ.
Hoping it would be at least decent wide open, could be a good astro option with or without the adapter (assuming coma is well controlled)
SmoothGlass
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I wouldn't mind replacing my Canon EOS-M + 22/2 setup with my a6000 + 28/2 if the quality and price are reasonable.
But it's a non-G lens and 499 euros ($499+) according to rumors, so I'm not that optimistic.
greypixelz
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Looking forward to it, actually. 28mm is my favorite wide-normal while 42mm is my favorite normal. The 28mm ticks both boxes. The addition of the wide converter is no-brainer; Sony wide converters are very good, at least the one I used 
blue_skies
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What is there not to like? Price? Size? Sure, it is bulky, compared to the RF lenses, but you get two focal lengths for the price of one. With AF and at f/2.0. It is not cheap, but also not 'Zeiss' level pricing.
I have a feeling that a lot of people will actually prefer the FE28 over the FE35Z, because of the extra f-stop and the wider FOV. I think that the lenses will be comparable in size, and the real question is how much the difference in quality will be. Also, 21/28/55 makes for a reasonable range, you can skip the 35 in that setup. (I know it is a small lens, if you already have it).
With the converter, you do get a relatively inexpensive 21mm/f2.0 which makes the DOF more usable at wide open positions. 21mm is likely already too wide for street shooting, and we will have to wait and see whether or not this makes for a decent landscape setup.
Unless you have an A7s, the small wide-angle RF lenses are cumbersome to use - vignetting, color cast, corner smearing - and FF legacy wide-angle lenses are simply large. The FE28/UWA combination looks large, but I expect it to still smaller than FF legacy lenses and also be fairly light - kind of like the E20/UWA combination on the APS-C E-mount cameras.
Comparing the FE28/UWA with the FE20/UWA makes for a FF f/2.0 versus APS-C f/2.8, which is two stops advantage.
Similarly, comparing the FE28/UWA with the FE1635Z makes also for a 2 stop advantage (f/2.0 versus f/4.0) at the cost of losing OSS.
Either way, it is a nice f/2.0 option to have in your bag.
The alternative, imho, would be a Loxia lens around 20-25mm at f/2.0. MF, but higher IQ, I am sure.
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Non-G, Non Zeiss, Sony E-mount lenses do not have the best reputation. The sigma lenses are much better and less expensive that anything Sony makes so far, so I am not holding my breath. It may well be another "if you stop it down it is sharp" lens.
I hope it is good, as I didn't like how much the FE 35/2 vignettes without software correction. Adding the converter on the front feels like I'm using a video camera, so I hope they are good quality as well.
SEL 35/1.8, and 50/1.8 are very, very good lenses (I have used both), and I hear good things about the 10-18/4. The FE 28-70 is a great non-G non-Zeiss lens in the FF category. People have been clamoring for cheaper lenses for some time. The minute a possibly cheap lens is announced, suddenly the trolls declare some nonsense about reputation that they are doing their darndest to sully, without ever having used the lenses they brush off with ignorant sweeping statements. Yeah right.
And yet virtually no one who has used both the Sigma 30/2.8 and SEL 35/1.8 opts to stick with the Sigma. I would know, I sold the Sigma when the SEL35/1.8 was announced (and am much happier with it).
Why would you hold your breath in the first place, since you don't shoot Sony E? Haven't you been claiming to shoot MFT after "dumping" Sony A mount? 50/1.8 is FE55 sharp straight out of the blocks in the center, and the others I mentioned are very good performers too. None are G or Zeiss.so I am not holding my breath. It may well be another "if you stop it down it is sharp" lens.
This is a pathetic hack job in the Sony E forums, and thinly disguised trolling. Everdog/DT200 I presume?
Non-G, Non Zeiss, Sony E-mount lenses do not have the best reputation. The sigma lenses are much better and less expensive that anything Sony makes so far, so I am not holding my breath. It may well be another "if you stop it down it is sharp" lens.
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Any rumors about price? I would be interested in a reasonably priced, reasonably compact, 28mm prime, which is also my favorite wide. The 21mm adapter would be a plus.
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Sony 28mm f/2.0: to ship in February 2015. 499 Euro?
Converters for 229 Euro each?
Happy Jones
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It is not a great lens. It is good priced lens. It reminds me of this lens:
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331 Five star ratings. At most focal lengths wide open it is painfully soft. Yet, people call it a "great" lens. Just like the Sony FE kit zoom.
captura
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Correction!Non-G, Non Zeiss, Sony E-mount lenses do not have the best reputation. The sigma lenses are much better and less expensive that anything Sony makes so far, so I am not holding my breath. It may well be another "if you stop it down it is sharp" lens.
Most of the Sony E- lenses for APS-C cameras have OSS in-lens stabilization. The Sigma lenses do not.
The Sony lenses have a metal + plastic build, and are better construction. The Sigma lenses are all plastic.
The SEL 50 & SEL 35 lenses are sharper than the Sigma 19 and 30 lenses.
If you insist on using huge antique cameras with mirrors, you wouldn't know this information. You are excused.
captura
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The FE 28-70 is an exceptional zoom lens for use with the A6000 and other APS-C Sony cameras. It's performance exceeds all the Sony APS-C zooms with the possible exception of the 16-70. It is sharper at the center than the FE 24-70 and much more reliable due to sample variance issues with the 24-70.
And it can be found very cheaply on the used market.
captura
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That is just your opinion, based on what? Do you actually own this lens, or just feeling like expressing yourself?
And the one lens has absolutely nothing to do with the other, so why post that?
straylightrun
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Sony e-mount 35/1.8 and 50/1.8 are non G/Zeiss and are very good optically.
A-mount 35/1.8, 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 are also non G/Zeiss as well and are very sharp.
I'm glad this lens isn't a G lens or a Zeiss lens, just look at how overpriced and disappointing the 24-70/4 Zeiss is. I hope Sony makes more affordable emount lenses with good optics and without the inflated prices.
The FE 28-70 is weakest at 70/5.6 according to DxOMark. Here's what 70/5.6 looks like:
Don't try to be clever and trash a lens you've never used.
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captura
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True, but the NEX lenses are overall, a sturdier better build.
I am not trying to take anything away from the Sigma lenses, owning two of them myself. But I seldom use my 30 due to the sticky barrel issue.
See for yourself; here are the DxO results:Not according do dxo they aren't
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- The E50 exceeds both of the DN Sigma lenses in overall score and in sharpness.
- The E35 exceeds the 19mm DN Sigma lens in both scores and equals the 30 Sigma in overall score.
Your personal insult is unjustified. We're only talking cameras here, for heaven's sake!
captura
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I also apologize.Agreed.
Me neither and I don't even like Sigma glass because of its dreadful bokeh and inferios microcontrast.
This is what I meant: http://www.dxomark.com/Reviews/Best...and-Zooms/Best-prime-lenses-on-the-Sony-A6000See for yourself; here are the DxO results:Not according do dxo they aren't
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compa...ma-30mm-F28-EX-DN-Sony-E___745_0_1083_0_828_0
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compa...us-Sigma-30mm-F28-DN-A-Sony-E___1114_0_1102_0
- The E50 exceeds both of the DN Sigma lenses in overall score and in sharpness.
- The E35 exceeds the 19mm DN Sigma lens in both scores and equals the 30 Sigma in overall score.
The lenses you mention are better indeed, however Sigma pricing for the DN lenses is dirt cheap.
I didn't insult you, I merely sensed anger and sarcasm in your previous replies. If that wasn't the case, I apologize for my mistake. Try not talking it so personal, it's just a forum after all, no need to get all touchy-feely
Cheers!
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