Wide-angle lens question for photos taken inside cruise ship

SkvLTD said:

Vaccam said:

All,

I will be cruising this May in one of the smaller Royal Caribbean cruise ships, Grandeur of the Seas. I currently have the 16-35mm f4, 35 f2, 50 f1.8G and Tamron 70-200mm. I have plans to pick up the 20 f28d and 24 f28d in the future, but not necessarily before the cruise. One of my goals is to use more primes going forward.

My question is specific to photos taken inside the cruise ship in low light situations. I plan on using my 35 f2, will the FOV be wide enough, or would it be better to have a 20 or 24mm with me?

I know I could just use the 16-35mm f4, but want to keep my ISOs down as much as possible. I'd rather make it through the cruise without having to buy another lens, but don't wanted be disappointed either.

I'm shooting with my D810, I have an SB700 as well.

Thanks for any advise or suggestions,

Michael

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W/ a flash in general, your max aperture becomes irrelevant unless you MUST have a distinct bokeh in your shots. On 810, you're SAFE shooting up to like 3200 so just let it rip @ f/8-16 and post all your RAW shots afterwards.

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Leonard Migliore said:

Albert said:

I find the 28mm perspective to be correct at the dinner table; but that is to my eye. I think it is just wide enough to get the person across the table from you into the image while including the surrounding i.e. the table so you know you are at dinner, but not so wide that their nose looks 10x bigger than their eyes. I also find that most 28mm's focus very closely in case you want to take pics of your food.. I'm asian so I take pics of my food all the time, but YMMV.

Not my image but this is a pic with the Nikon 28mm F2.8 AIS; this is what I mean.

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EXIF shows that the camera was a D2H, which is APS-C. So for the OP to get the same angle of view on full frame he would need a focal length of 42mm.

A 28mm on full-frame would tend to produce distorted images across a dinner table.

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Albert said:

I will add the caution though that if you take a picture of your wife at 16mm; be prepared to sleep alone that night. Like I said; I don't know a single woman who thinks the 16mm perspective of their nose is attractive..

scrane said:

If you didn't already have the 16-35 I would suggest you get one. It seems perfect for what you want to do.

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SkvLTD said:

Vaccam said:

All,

I will be cruising this May in one of the smaller Royal Caribbean cruise ships, Grandeur of the Seas. I currently have the 16-35mm f4, 35 f2, 50 f1.8G and Tamron 70-200mm. I have plans to pick up the 20 f28d and 24 f28d in the future, but not necessarily before the cruise. One of my goals is to use more primes going forward.

My question is specific to photos taken inside the cruise ship in low light situations. I plan on using my 35 f2, will the FOV be wide enough, or would it be better to have a 20 or 24mm with me?

I know I could just use the 16-35mm f4, but want to keep my ISOs down as much as possible. I'd rather make it through the cruise without having to buy another lens, but don't wanted be disappointed either.

I'm shooting with my D810, I have an SB700 as well.

Thanks for any advise or suggestions,

Michael

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Vaccam said:

All,

I will be cruising this May in one of the smaller Royal Caribbean cruise ships, Grandeur of the Seas. I currently have the 16-35mm f4, 35 f2, 50 f1.8G and Tamron 70-200mm. I have plans to pick up the 20 f28d and 24 f28d in the future, but not necessarily before the cruise. One of my goals is to use more primes going forward.

My question is specific to photos taken inside the cruise ship in low light situations. I plan on using my 35 f2, will the FOV be wide enough, or would it be better to have a 20 or 24mm with me?

I know I could just use the 16-35mm f4, but want to keep my ISOs down as much as possible. I'd rather make it through the cruise without having to buy another lens, but don't wanted be disappointed either.

I'm shooting with my D810, I have an SB700 as well.

Thanks for any advise or suggestions,

Michael

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/130745324@N06/

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Weiguo said:

16-35mm is good enough for most of time for inside ship photography. I took this ship on last Christmas to Bahamas and I used mostly 16-35mm + SB910 (with diffusion) for inside scenes and 58mm for portrait if I wanted a nice bokeh. Even the light inside is not that dim, I always used flash if possible to avoid shaking and high ISO.

Actually most of my photos were taken outside and on shore excursions using:

Nikon 1 AW1 for video of underwater/snorkeling/water sliding, etc

GoPro 4 Black for sports like parasailing

Nikon V3 + 70-300CX for wildlife (alligator at Florida).

Most important is enjoying your trip! I usually depart from NYC and NJ but last Christmas I choosed MD since this is the only ship stops at Key West FL. The boarding/debark processes and US Custom are much faster and smoother at Baltimore.


From Grandeur Of The Seas: Quantum of the Sea on left side, Disney on right.


Quantum of the Sea, Grandeur Of The Seas and Disney

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romfordbluenose said:

I've been on quite a few cruises and one of the benefits of being on a cruise ship is you can take as much gear as you like and leave it in your cabin when not being used.

I find on board a standard zoom is more than adequate. I use my 24-85 most of the time. You'll also need a telephoto lens as you'll not be that close to land most of the time.

Contrary to other comments although there are a lot of people on board there are plenty of times of day when the ship is fairly empty. I would though take a lens which allows you to control DoF as some shots are much better by taking the clutter out of the background.

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knightmelodic said:

20 f1.8. It will make you zoom with your feet and consider more options than the postcard shot. Yes, there are loads of people at any port. LOADS. 20 will serve you well for indoor shipboard low light; casino, disco, shows, etc. It will also allow you to just have fun and not worry about lens change yadda, yadda.

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mais51 said:

SkvLTD said:

Vaccam said:

All,

I will be cruising this May in one of the smaller Royal Caribbean cruise ships, Grandeur of the Seas. I currently have the 16-35mm f4, 35 f2, 50 f1.8G and Tamron 70-200mm. I have plans to pick up the 20 f28d and 24 f28d in the future, but not necessarily before the cruise. One of my goals is to use more primes going forward.

My question is specific to photos taken inside the cruise ship in low light situations. I plan on using my 35 f2, will the FOV be wide enough, or would it be better to have a 20 or 24mm with me?

I know I could just use the 16-35mm f4, but want to keep my ISOs down as much as possible. I'd rather make it through the cruise without having to buy another lens, but don't wanted be disappointed either.

I'm shooting with my D810, I have an SB700 as well.

Thanks for any advise or suggestions,

Michael

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/130745324@N06/

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W/ a flash in general, your max aperture becomes irrelevant unless you MUST have a distinct bokeh in your shots. On 810, you're SAFE shooting up to like 3200 so just let it rip @ f/8-16 and post all your RAW shots afterwards.

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Sensors capture and render that light, so best sensor always wins despite glass outlasting the sensors.

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unprocessed JPG from D800 + 24-120 F4, ISO 3600 - near midnight !!!


Radiance of the Seas Atrium

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Mike H said:

Inside the elevator


The Centrum during the day


Schooner Bar


Centrum at night

Just 4 shots I took interior of the ship I think your 16-35 will do what you want.

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Vaccam said:

Thanks everyone for all of the replies, photos and suggestions. I will probably stick with what I have, 16-35mm and the 35 f2, but that thought of getting a 20mm before the cruise is still tempting.

Thanks,

Michael

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Vaccam said:

Albert,

Yes, I have a few of these that I took for fun. She did not see the humor in it.

Thanks,

Michael

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Albert said:

Albert said:

Albert,

Yes, I have a few of these that I took for fun. She did not see the humor in it.

Thanks,

Michael

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Brave man..

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Vaccam said:

All,

I will be cruising this May in one of the smaller Royal Caribbean cruise ships, Grandeur of the Seas.

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Vaccam said:

All,

I will be cruising this May in one of the smaller Royal Caribbean cruise ships, Grandeur of the Seas. I currently have the 16-35mm f4, 35 f2, 50 f1.8G and Tamron 70-200mm. I have plans to pick up the 20 f28d and 24 f28d in the future, but not necessarily before the cruise. One of my goals is to use more primes going forward.

My question is specific to photos taken inside the cruise ship in low light situations. I plan on using my 35 f2, will the FOV be wide enough, or would it be better to have a 20 or 24mm with me?

I know I could just use the 16-35mm f4, but want to keep my ISOs down as much as possible. I'd rather make it through the cruise without having to buy another lens, but don't wanted be disappointed either.

I'm shooting with my D810, I have an SB700 as well.

Thanks for any advise or suggestions,

Michael

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