Advice: MOZA vs Ronin

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Hey Guys,

It's me again.

I want to know something about Gimbals.
After a long decade of searching and eliminating the cheap ones for me
im stuck with the MOZA and the DJI Ronin.

Both of them have their Pros and Cons - would you help me to find out
what Gimbals is better? What do you think?

I am going to use the Gimbal for the Canon 5D and the BMCC 2,5K EF
 
DJI Ronin - Pros:

- Battery about 4h
- Rollcase include
- Remote include
- iOS App for Configuration
- Self-balancing
- 3 Modes to Shoot
- - Underslung
- - Upright
- - Brifcase (Sideway)
- Can take up to 7,25 Kg

DJI Ronin - Cons:

- HEAVY ! with 4,2 Kg
- 3000USD (for a New one)
- Only 1 Battery
- Atm no additional Things to Buy

Although the Ronin looks to be built solidly, it is made entirely from aluminum.

Ronin tilt motor struggles to handle the heavier cameras.

There have been numerous companier that have purchased Ronin’s and they have completely packed in after only a few weeks of use. This isn’t a problem with the gimbal structure but a more serious problem with its software and electronics.

We have heard that the DJI customer services are almost non-existent and in certain cases it’s taken upwards to a month to even receive a reply from the company.
 
MOZA - Pros:
- light with around 3.2kg
- used for 2245USD
- Remote Thumb Controller
- Built-in video transmitter

MOZA - Cons:

- Battery about 150min Shooting Time
- Only one Mode to handle it
- - Underslung Mode
- BMCC just fits with it Weight , no heavy Lens
- After you put it back to case it is a complete Reset

The instant attraction to MOZA is of course its price tag. At only $2245 this is definitely a great gimbal option for any independent filmmaker looking for a bargain. For this price you also receive a robust case, a remote thumb controller and a built-in wireless video transmitter. MOZA’s setup is designed to be extremely easy. The entire rig can be built without any tools and it has an auto configure setup to calibrate the camera.
 
I really think you should consider MOZA. Portable and affordable.

MOZA is proven, robust tech. With a little practice in both balancing and operation, you can get very good results.
 
DJI Ronin - Pros:

- Battery about 4h
- Rollcase include
- Remote include
- iOS App for Configuration
- Self-balancing
- 3 Modes to Shoot
- - Underslung
- - Upright
- - Brifcase (Sideway)
- Can take up to 7,25 Kg

DJI Ronin - Cons:

- HEAVY ! with 4,2 Kg
- 3000USD (for a New one)
- Only 1 Battery
- Atm no additional Things to Buy

Although the Ronin looks to be built solidly, it is made entirely from aluminum.

Ronin tilt motor struggles to handle the heavier cameras.

There have been numerous companier that have purchased Ronin’s and they have completely packed in after only a few weeks of use. This isn’t a problem with the gimbal structure but a more serious problem with its software and electronics.

We have heard that the DJI customer services are almost non-existent and in certain cases it’s taken upwards to a month to even receive a reply from the company.

So what you will see is that the Ronin can do much more
but it is more than double weight with over 4Kg (6.5Kg with Camera)
But I would not run 2 Hours straight with it without an Easy Rig
 
MOZA - Pros:
- light with around 3.2kg
- used for 2245USD
- Remote Thumb Controller
- Built-in video transmitter

MOZA - Cons:

- Battery about 150min Shooting Time
- Only one Mode to handle it
- - Underslung Mode
- BMCC just fits with it Weight , no heavy Lens
- After you put it back to case it is a complete Reset

The instant attraction to MOZA is of course its price tag. At only $2245 this is definitely a great gimbal option for any independent filmmaker looking for a bargain. For this price you also receive a robust case, a remote thumb controller and a built-in wireless video transmitter. MOZA’s setup is designed to be extremely easy. The entire rig can be built without any tools and it has an auto configure setup to calibrate the camera.
 
Hey guys, just currently testing the updated came-7800 (almost tool-less) and the Moza, and I am so far impressed with both. However, Moza seems to be the winner for the price range.

We took it out and did testing and Moza is heavy, but lighter than Ronin (according to one gimbal operator who has been using the Ronin and the Movi M10), we had it on for as much as we can and the battery for powering the motors, the wireless transmitter and remote, lasted about 3.5hrs (of course, most of the time it was just sitting there and once in a while being taken up to test).

We also didn't encounter issues setting it up at a pool hall, took about 5 mins to take it out the box, set up the stand, take the gimbal out, screw the gh4 onto it, and quick insert/balance, done.

One thing we were worried about is the feel when you run with the gimbal and we tested the came-7800 and moza (both did really well following a talent when walking) but when the talent is runnint, the Moza shines.

We will have a review out soon and will also test it with the same scenario with the Ronin to see how it compares.
 
Has anyone spent time with the new Ronin M, or the MOZA Lite models? I'm shooting on a GH4, and either of these will fly it fine from what I've read.
 
Has anyone spent time with the new Ronin M, or the MOZA Lite models? I'm shooting on a GH4, and either of these will fly it fine from what I've read.
I just received my Ronin-M today found this post searching for info on ultra thin micro HDMI wire, I can test it out with an NX1 and Gh4 for you if you would like.

FYI I would do your research on gimbals on another site, this one has been spammed/shilled to death with Moza reps (original poster in this thread sells Moza for example) I was trying to research them and after seeing the same images, posts and questions from several posters decided to start looking at poster history.

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It works great, everything is in learning to use it. With the wireless thumb control, you can do everything as calibrate the weight of the camera with the lens. Focus control. Calibrate the gyroscopes. calibrate speed lever control. You can choose the foundation gimbal motion. And the wireless monitor #Gudsentech #MozaLite
 
So last October, myself and my business partner were looking to replace our DJI Ronin gimbal, we’d decided we would get something lighter, that would work well with our GH4, we were looking at the Ronin M but also at alternatives, and that’s when we found the Moza Lite, it seemed like a great deal, you got a monitor, a thumb controller, a case, all for less than the Ronin, so we went for it, and now, 5 months later, after finally receiving our refund, I can safely say, it’s the worst decision we’ve ever made since starting the business.

We knew buying something from abroad was a risk, but we bought it through a company who we had used in the past and 100% trusted. Delivery took a couple of weeks, but that was expected, it all looked good when it arrived, pretty well built and easy to assemble. But that’s when the issues started, I mounted the camera and did some test walks/runs, and then watched the footage back and noticed a clear wobble, which would make footage totally unusable. I messaged Moza, they didn’t reply, ( I had emailed them with some questions prior to buying it, and not surprisingly, they replied straight away then) I emailed again a couple of weeks later asking for a response, and sent a video showing the issue, still no reply, then I got a message on facebook from someone who works for Moza, apparently that is the best way to communicate with them, how professional.

So he seemed helpful, although it seemed like he was just telling me what he tells anyone with an issue, not necessarily specifically trying to help with my issue. Then they told me to ask the supplier for a replacement, which they sorted, and I had to send it back to Moza in China (I’m in the UK) they said they would offer me $50 compensation for the postage, even though it cost $99 to send, they wouldn’t budge on that offer so I just sent it, anything to get a working gimbal, it had been over a month now.

So I sent it, and once I had sent the tracking info, they eventually (after many messages) sent me the replacement. By the time I’d received the replacement and managed to find time to test it, it was January, I was still getting a similar issue, not as bad but still not totally smooth, I messaged them, and send them video samples, and after a week of waiting I still had no reply, So I said I would share the video of it not working in forums and on social media to see if anyone else could help, and surprise surprise, they replied straight away, telling me to speak to another person on Facebook. And then suddenly I had to email different people, and was dealing with 3 separate people at the same time, all of who didn’t seem to talk to each other and were telling me different things, none of which helped the issue. One person was sending me advice on how to solve the issue, another was sending me details of where to send it back to, it was a shambles.

I, for obvious reasons, decided to get a full refund and send the gimbal back, this led to even more shocking customer service, the policy of offering $50 for shipping suddenly didn’t exist, so I had to argue the case to even be offered that for my return shipping. The next thing was them asking me to put the value of the gimbal down as $200 on the shipping, even though it was worth just over $1200, I assume it was to keep their costs down on the other end.

1 of February I sent it, and didn’t hear a thing from them until the 22. They emailed myself and the supplier on the 26 saying they had given him the refund, and asked him to pay me. I spoke to him separately and he said they had given only given him a partial refund, but he would give me the full refund as he felt bad for how much hassle I had gone through. He works for Supamods, who are a fantastic company and so easy to deal with.

So, don’t buy a Moza, spend a little more and get a Ronin M, which we have now done, and I really wish we had done 5 months ago. The customer serviced I received about the Ronin was amazing, the customer service for the Moza was by far the worst I’ve ever received.
 

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