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I've been looking around, and opinions are at both sides. I'd like a last opinion so I can take a more informed decision. Now that I got the E-M10, I'm considering the Oly 45mm 1.8, which is regarded one of the best, alongside the 75mm. I already have the panny 20 and 14, so when I need more reach, I must put on my 45-150mm or 45-200mm lenses, which are not very fast. Doing portraits with the 45-200mm is far from convenient nor comfortable.

As I said, I'm considering the 45, trying to stay into the primes realm, so I can shoot in low light, as I do very often, and keep weight low. But thinking about it, I'd also like to have the 12mm, since the widest I have is the 14, but sometimes I feel I need just a bit more. 24mm in 35mm film cameras have always been my preferred wideangle focal length, as much as 35mm for casual and street photography.

Now, the 45 is about 350$, the 12 is way more, but I could go and find a Rokinon 12mm f:2 for around 400, or even go wider and get the 7.5, which I've read is a very sharp lens. I also like to have the 25mm, but that is going far away from my intended budget, which is around 600.

I was also thinking about going cheap, and get the Sigma 60mm f:2.8, and the Samyang 7.5mm, and I'd be also below my budget.

So, and coming to a close on my dissertation, I might simply go all the way and reach out for the 12-40mm, forget about the primes, sell my 14mm, and with the money I get from the 14 I'd be around my budget.

I'd keep the 20 for light weight shooting. Love that lens, and I'll never part from it.

What do you think? 12-40mm or couple primes? I mean, is the 12-40mm that good?

Do you have any suggestions of other combination of lenses?

Thanks
 
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I've been looking around, and opinions are at both sides. I'd like a last opinion so I can take a more informed decision. Now that I got the E-M10, I'm considering the Oly 45mm 1.8, which is regarded one of the best, alongside the 75mm. I already have the panny 20 and 14, so when I need more reach, I must put on my 45-150mm or 45-200mm lenses, which are not very fast. Doing portraits with the 45-200mm is far from convenient nor comfortable.
then please just get the 45mm it's as good as they say and it gives you a 3rd great prime option. the 14mm and 20mm are also amazing small gems.
As I said, I'm considering the 45, trying to stay into the primes realm, so I can shoot in low light, as I do very often, and keep weight low...
You're asking questions about which only you can decide to prioritize. Here are my opinions: The 12-40 is a remarkably good lens optically. I have several primes. I'd say it gives up nothing in sharpness to the 17 f/1.8, the PL 25 f/1.4, or the Oly 45 f/1.8. Those lenses are considerably smaller, lighter, and off course have faster maximum apertures. I think the Oly 45 f/1.8 would be a better portrait lens just because it's a tad longer and the faster aperture will give you more control of depth of field. And I tend to like the overall rendering of the PL25 better than the 12-40, but I may just be inhaling too much Leica pixie dust. The 12-40 is fairly chunky and heavy, but optically is really excellent. I read nothing but very good things about the Sigma 60 f/2.8. Again, it would be limited to f/2.8 but the additional length would give a bit more control of depth of field. I also have the 75; it's really the only prime I have that I would say is clearly sharper. Optically it's really outstanding. It's not cheap and the focal length may not work for everyone. I'd say the 7.5 fish eye is going to be quite different than a 24mm rectilinear effective focal length
 
It's a beautiful lens...but you can't do anything with it that you couldn't do with 12-35 Panny...and the Panny is smaller...

The 12-40 is just over the threshold of being small...12-35 Panny is just under...

12-35 and 35-100 Panny is a full kit...

http://camerasize.com/compact/#521.412,521.336,521.366,ha,t

EM1 12-40:

http://acwilli.smugmug.com/Other/EM1-12-40-Old-Barn-Field/

http://acwilli.smugmug.com/Other/EM1-Fall-Lake-shots/

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I like the lens, but mine will sometimes create some very ugly flare. Big purple blotches that can't be corrected, sometimes just large areas with no contrast. It is not easy to predict when I will get it, usually when the light source is just out of the frame, but it depends on the focal length. I seem to have the only lens that does this, but others have the same problem with the 40-150.













Not many people are ever seeing it, most reviews praise the flare control. However more people are seeing the same kind of flare with the 40-150.



Usually shots taken into the sun aren't that good anyway, but some of my favorite shots are silhouettes, and a large percentage of my shots are hike by shooting. Sometimes the best part of a hike is midday when going over a pass. You have to take the lighting you get. I would hate to hike 10 miles and not get anything usable.

For now, I'll carry a backup prime.

There is some speculation that it is a UV problem, but so far I haven't been able to correct it with any filters I have.

Other the that, no complaints about the lens.

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It's a beautiful lens...but you can't do anything with it that you couldn't do with 12-35 Panny.
On my OM-D e-m5, I've taken more than four thousands of shots with my M.Zuiko 12-40mm, all totally devoid of chromatic aberrations (as far as I know) while about two thirds of the shots taken with the Lumix 12-35mm on that same camera body had to be corrected for CA during post-processing.

CA might be very well under control on a Panasonic camera body, but that's definitively not the case on an Olympus camera body. That being said, let me be clear: I don't blame Panasonic for that problem. On the contrary, I'm inclined to think that Olympus should protect their sensors with a better UV filter.
..and the Panny is smaller...
Yes, like canadian pennies are smaller than nickels.
The 12-40 is just over the threshold of being small...12-35 Panny is just under...
Who has fixed that threshold? On which basis?
12-35 and 35-100 Panny is a full kit...
Yes, like the M.Zuiko 12-40mm + the M.Zuiko 40-150mm Pro
 
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JLTaylor wrote:

Not many people are ever seeing it, most reviews praise the flare control. However more people are seeing the same kind of flare with the 40-150.
The only time I've seen that was when I was trying to get the lunar eclipse and I had a circular polarizer on in place of my UV/Haze (which I only have as a shield for the front element).

The 12-40 Pro is my main lens. I use it most of the time. My photos probably aren't up to par with others here, but, I'll post a few because I think they tell more than I could add to the comments earlier in this thread. It takes amazing photos at all focal lengths and subject distances, and I continue to be amazed at it's close focus abilities.



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I also have the 60 f2.8 macro:



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and while I covet the 40-150 Pro, for now I have the 4-5.6 for when I need it. Also, Santa just brought the 75 f1.8 which I've just started playing with and am very impressed, but, the 12-40 Pro will stay my main lens.

Buy it - you'll love it.

Jim Vincent
 
I've been looking around, and opinions are at both sides. I'd like a last opinion so I can take a more informed decision. Now that I got the E-M10, I'm considering the Oly 45mm 1.8, which is regarded one of the best, alongside the 75mm. I already have the panny 20 and 14, so when I need more reach, I must put on my 45-150mm or 45-200mm lenses, which are not very fast. Doing portraits with the 45-200mm is far from convenient nor comfortable.
then please just get the 45mm it's as good as they say and it gives you a 3rd great prime option. the 14mm and 20mm are also amazing small gems.
As I said, I'm considering the 45, trying to stay into the primes realm, so I can shoot in low light, as I do very often, and keep weight low. But thinking about it, I'd also like to have the 12mm, since the widest I have is the 14, but sometimes I feel I need just a bit more.
Panasonic makes a UW adapter for the 14mm. not ideal but still it does give you a 11mm.
24mm in 35mm film cameras have always been my preferred wideangle focal length, as much as 35mm for casual and street photography.
With the UW adapter the 14mm becomes a 22mm equiv. the 20mm is close enough to 35mm equiv. in my opinion
Now, the 45 is about 350$, the 12 is way more, but I could go and find a Rokinon 12mm f:2 for around 400, or even go wider and get the 7.5, which I've read is a very sharp lens.
I own the 7.5mm and i am willing to recommend to everyone. It's sharp and built very well.

It is a fisheye though so it does have a lot of barrel distortion. it's a great lens but not always useful.
I also like to have the 25mm, but that is going far away from my intended budget, which is around 600.
You already have the 20mm right. So focus on other focal lengths first
I was also thinking about going cheap, and get the Sigma 60mm f:2.8, and the Samyang 7.5mm, and I'd be also below my budget.
That is also good if you like shooting tight portraits. personally i would only buy this sigma on Apsc mirrorless bodies like the a6000. since it's just a more useful focal length in that system.
So, and coming to a close on my dissertation, I might simply go all the way and reach out for the 12-40mm, forget about the primes, sell my 14mm, and with the money I get from the 14 I'd be around my budget.

I'd keep the 20 for light weight shooting. Love that lens, and I'll never part from it.
nor would i!
What do you think? 12-40mm or couple primes? I mean, is the 12-40mm that good?
Uhm yes the 12-40mm is the best wide-standard zoom in the m43 system. however i think this system is all about using those fast small primes. They just give you more control over depth of field and i just like shooting with primes. makes me think more about the composition then convenient zooms. but that's just me
Do you have any suggestions of other combination of lenses?
The 7.5 mm fisheye is a lens that gives you a incredible FOV. It's a MUST have

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the 45mm turns the em-10 in a great portrait shooter with nice thin depth of field. get that one for portraits.

then possible this adapter for your 14mm to give you a UW prime on a budget


 
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It's a beautiful lens...but you can't do anything with it that you couldn't do with 12-35 Panny.
On my OM-D e-m5, I've taken more than four thousands of shots with my M.Zuiko 12-40mm, all totally devoid of chromatic aberrations (as far as I know) while about two thirds of the shots taken with the Lumix 12-35mm on that same camera body had to be corrected for CA during post-processing.

CA might be very well under control on a Panasonic camera body, but that's definitively not the case on an Olympus camera body. That being said, let me be clear: I don't blame Panasonic for that problem. On the contrary, I'm inclined to think that Olympus should protect their sensors with a better UV filter.
Never had the issue with mine although I didn't shoot into tree limbs against the sky that I can remember...it actually worked well for close ups, but the 12-40 does as well...
..and the Panny is smaller...
Yes, like canadian pennies are smaller than nickels.
Just slightly...lol...the 40-150 isn't exactly a walk around lens compared to 35-100...



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Every little bit counts...when your hiking and also when it comes to bag choice...

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The 12-40 is just over the threshold of being small...12-35 Panny is just under...
Who has fixed that threshold? On which basis?
Me I owned and used both extensively...hiking and biking and bag size...

12-35 and 35-100 Panny is a full kit...
Yes, like the M.Zuiko 12-40mm + the M.Zuiko 40-150mm Pro
Of course but as the photo above depicts the 40-150 is quite a bit for walk around and increases bag size considerably along with weight...

m43 is about staying small, portability with max image quality...these were just suggestions for Martin, he is smart enough to make choices himself...but he does like to evaluate from all angles, like me...

Nothing I wrote is in stone or blood either...just suggestions while thinking of his mobility and bag size...



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It's a beautiful lens...but you can't do anything with it that you couldn't do with 12-35 Panny.
On my OM-D e-m5, I've taken more than four thousands of shots with my M.Zuiko 12-40mm, all totally devoid of chromatic aberrations (as far as I know) while about two thirds of the shots taken with the Lumix 12-35mm on that same camera body had to be corrected for CA during post-processing.

CA might be very well under control on a Panasonic camera body, but that's definitively not the case on an Olympus camera body. That being said, let me be clear: I don't blame Panasonic for that problem. On the contrary, I'm inclined to think that Olympus should protect their sensors with a better UV filter.
Never had the issue with mine although I didn't shoot into tree limbs against the sky that I can remember...it actually worked well for close ups, but the 12-40 does as well...
..and the Panny is smaller...
Yes, like canadian pennies are smaller than nickels.
Just slightly...lol...the 40-150 isn't exactly a walk around lens compared to 35-100...

bf19dce7adfd428791284e9345618045.jpg

Every little bit counts...when your hiking and also when it comes to bag choice...

530311c7b43c4e8ca51f40eb32cbf322.jpg.png
The 12-40 is just over the threshold of being small...12-35 Panny is just under...
Who has fixed that threshold? On which basis?
Me I owned and used both extensively...hiking and biking and bag size...
12-35 and 35-100 Panny is a full kit...
Yes, like the M.Zuiko 12-40mm + the M.Zuiko 40-150mm Pro
Of course but as the photo above depicts the 40-150 is quite a bit for walk around and increases bag size considerably along with weight...

m43 is about staying small, portability with max image quality...these were just suggestions for Martin, he is smart enough to make choices himself...but he does like to evaluate from all angles, like me...

Nothing I wrote is in stone or blood either...just suggestions while thinking of his mobility and bag size...

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Mr Ichiro Kitao, I do not support the call to leave the FZ1000 without options to install a Teleconverter
Honestly the difference between 12-35 and 12-40 is minuscule - especially considering the longer reach of the Olympus. you could also combine the olympus and the 35-100mm Panasonic (which I am considering). 5mm overlap is not too much and can help you not to need swapping the lens as often. The 40-150 has a lot longer reach so comparing it to the Panasonic does not make too much sense.
 
As to weight, the 12, 25 and 45 together weigh about as much as the 12-40.
 
One other suggestion that I didn't think of Marttin, but since you have the EM-10 the Oly 14-150 is a fantastic do it all zoom with a very small size to consider...excellent walk around that would allow you to drop the 45-150 and the 45-200 both...

I used it with a couple of primes for a Germany trip and it was wonderful...very under rated...a couple these with the 12mm f/2, the rest with 14-150 Oly...

http://acwilli.smugmug.com/Other/EP3-Germany-2011/

http://camerasize.com/compact/#521.347,521.97,521.33,ha,t
 
It's a beautiful lens...but you can't do anything with it that you couldn't do with 12-35 Panny.
On my OM-D e-m5, I've taken more than four thousands of shots with my M.Zuiko 12-40mm, all totally devoid of chromatic aberrations (as far as I know) while about two thirds of the shots taken with the Lumix 12-35mm on that same camera body had to be corrected for CA during post-processing.

CA might be very well under control on a Panasonic camera body, but that's definitively not the case on an Olympus camera body. That being said, let me be clear: I don't blame Panasonic for that problem. On the contrary, I'm inclined to think that Olympus should protect their sensors with a better UV filter.
Never had the issue with mine although I didn't shoot into tree limbs against the sky that I can remember...it actually worked well for close ups, but the 12-40 does as well...
..and the Panny is smaller...
Yes, like canadian pennies are smaller than nickels.
Just slightly...lol...the 40-150 isn't exactly a walk around lens compared to 35-100...

bf19dce7adfd428791284e9345618045.jpg

Every little bit counts...when your hiking and also when it comes to bag choice...

530311c7b43c4e8ca51f40eb32cbf322.jpg.png
The 12-40 is just over the threshold of being small...12-35 Panny is just under...
Who has fixed that threshold? On which basis?
Me I owned and used both extensively...hiking and biking and bag size...
12-35 and 35-100 Panny is a full kit...
Yes, like the M.Zuiko 12-40mm + the M.Zuiko 40-150mm Pro
Of course but as the photo above depicts the 40-150 is quite a bit for walk around and increases bag size considerably along with weight...

m43 is about staying small, portability with max image quality...these were just suggestions for Martin, he is smart enough to make choices himself...but he does like to evaluate from all angles, like me...

Nothing I wrote is in stone or blood either...just suggestions while thinking of his mobility and bag size...
great write-up.

I think the 12-40mm is just a better choice then the 12-35mm. It's sharper and the 40mm does make it a LOT more versatile.

i don't like H&S portraits at 70mm equiv. due to perspective distortion. 80mm equiv. is just that little extra what i need.

Now the 40-150mm is a lot bigger. But given that there is a tele-converter available it is again a lot more versatile. However it's just too bulky too make sense on the m43 system. which is all about small form factor and great image quality. this lens ditches the form factor.
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I had the Oly 12-50 and thought that was a terrific, underrated lens. I now have the 12-40 and it is spectacular. I found that I didn't need my 25 1.8 and never used it, so I sold it and use the 12-40 95% of the time. If you don't need a constant 2.8, you might want to consider the Pany 45-175 with internal electronic zoom, very compact and sharp.
 
I had the Oly 12-50 and thought that was a terrific, underrated lens.
I still have and hate that lens to be honest.

it's a large soft high vignetting piece of utter crap in my book. It does shoot nice macro images though.
I now have the 12-40 and it is spectacular. I found that I didn't need my 25 1.8 and never used it, so I sold it and use the 12-40 95% of the time. If you don't need a constant 2.8, you might want to consider the Pany 45-175 with internal electronic zoom, very compact and sharp.
the 45-175mm is a good lens. and that one is underated. But it just isn't what the OP is looking for.
 
Jeff,

Looking through your Pbase galleries (which are very nice, by the way), it's obvious you are not a 'newby'. Given that, I find it hard to imagine that you would expect any wide angle zoom to control flare in the example images you've posted here.

You have stripped the exif data from these, so it's hard to tell how wide these were done, but shooting directly into the sun is begging for flare and fogging with any lens I have ever used -- especially wide angle zoom lenses.
 
It's a beautiful lens...but you can't do anything with it that you couldn't do with 12-35 Panny.
On my OM-D e-m5, I've taken more than four thousands of shots with my M.Zuiko 12-40mm, all totally devoid of chromatic aberrations (as far as I know) while about two thirds of the shots taken with the Lumix 12-35mm on that same camera body had to be corrected for CA during post-processing.

CA might be very well under control on a Panasonic camera body, but that's definitively not the case on an Olympus camera body. That being said, let me be clear: I don't blame Panasonic for that problem. On the contrary, I'm inclined to think that Olympus should protect their sensors with a better UV filter.
Never had the issue with mine although I didn't shoot into tree limbs against the sky that I can remember...it actually worked well for close ups, but the 12-40 does as well...
..and the Panny is smaller...
Yes, like canadian pennies are smaller than nickels.
Just slightly...lol...the 40-150 isn't exactly a walk around lens compared to 35-100...

bf19dce7adfd428791284e9345618045.jpg

Every little bit counts...when your hiking and also when it comes to bag choice...

530311c7b43c4e8ca51f40eb32cbf322.jpg.png
The 12-40 is just over the threshold of being small...12-35 Panny is just under...
Who has fixed that threshold? On which basis?
Me I owned and used both extensively...hiking and biking and bag size...
12-35 and 35-100 Panny is a full kit...
Yes, like the M.Zuiko 12-40mm + the M.Zuiko 40-150mm Pro
Of course but as the photo above depicts the 40-150 is quite a bit for walk around and increases bag size considerably along with weight...

m43 is about staying small, portability with max image quality...these were just suggestions for Martin, he is smart enough to make choices himself...but he does like to evaluate from all angles, like me...

Nothing I wrote is in stone or blood either...just suggestions while thinking of his mobility and bag size...
great write-up.

I think the 12-40mm is just a better choice then the 12-35mm. It's sharper and the 40mm does make it a LOT more versatile.
It's sharper?...

SLRGear shows the 12-35 is very close and better at 35mm than the Oly is at 40mm and I am sure negligible in everyday shots..
i don't like H&S portraits at 70mm equiv. due to perspective distortion. 80mm equiv. is just that little extra what i need.
good point...
Now the 40-150mm is a lot bigger. But given that there is a tele-converter available it is again a lot more versatile. However it's just too bulky too make sense on the m43 system. which is all about small form factor and great image quality. this lens ditches the form factor.
Agreed, I got the 40-150 for sports, the 35-100 is a better travel alternative...they are both very sharp...
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Mr Ichiro Kitao, I do not support the call to leave the FZ1000 without options to install a Teleconverter
 
The IQ is more than good enough to stand up to most of the primes on offer today. Couple that with an amazing build quality, some of the best AF you'll find anywhere and a VERY useful manual focus clutch with hard stops and you have a very versatile lens. Heck, I can't MF at all on any of my other m43's lenses, but I feel confident doing it with the 12-40 when I have to/want to. Another bit of icing on the cake, the lens has a VERY good minimum focusing distance allowing you to use it as a pseudo macro lens:

12-40 at 40mm f4

12-40 at 40mm f4

The only 3 downsides to the 12-40: Its big and heavy by m43's standards and, its very difficult to control DoF with only an f2.8 lens at 30mm and below. At 40mm, its pretty easy to get a nice OOF background. The last issue is, sometimes f2.8 just isn't fast enough when the lighting is just slightly dim... you have to go to ISO6400+ or use a very slow shutter speed.
 
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Jeff,

Looking through your Pbase galleries (which are very nice, by the way), it's obvious you are not a 'newby'. Given that, I find it hard to imagine that you would expect any wide angle zoom to control flare in the example images you've posted here.

You have stripped the exif data from these, so it's hard to tell how wide these were done, but shooting directly into the sun is begging for flare and fogging with any lens I have ever used -- especially wide angle zoom lenses.

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No, not kidding. I shoot a lot of wide angle and am use to flare, but I find what I get from the 12-40 to be very ugly and hard to deal with. I would prefer what I get from the 7-14.

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It is more localized, and often is very easy to remove with a healing brush - even without going to photoshop.

Didn't intend to strip the exif, and didn't keep the mountain shot, but I think it is about 15mm @ about 6800 ft , the river is at 15mm @ 700 ft. I saw the purple in the viewfinder, and took another at 12mm.



Less purple, but the contrast is still greatly reduced.

I haven't seen very many complaints about this lens, but it has been discussed a bit more in reviews of the 40-150. I agree with the comments in this post mid-thread.


It could be that the ZERO coatings reduce flare and increase contrast in most cases, but in the narrow range that it hits it is more objectionable. Just guessing. Might not be a bad tradeoff.

This thread was pretty universal in praise for this lens - and most reviews say it handles flare very well. I am not so sure, at least in some case. I would not recommend this lens if you do a lot of backlit photography.

For me, for now, I think I will carry the Panasonic 14mm as a backup when I go on hikes when I expect to be shooting into the sun.

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First of all, Thanks all for their replies. They have been very helpful. BarnET, thanks to you, because you took the time to clarify all my doubts.
I've been looking around, and opinions are at both sides. I'd like a last opinion so I can take a more informed decision. Now that I got the E-M10, I'm considering the Oly 45mm 1.8, which is regarded one of the best, alongside the 75mm. I already have the panny 20 and 14, so when I need more reach, I must put on my 45-150mm or 45-200mm lenses, which are not very fast. Doing portraits with the 45-200mm is far from convenient nor comfortable.
then please just get the 45mm it's as good as they say and it gives you a 3rd great prime option. the 14mm and 20mm are also amazing small gems.
I think I'm going to do that. First, because is indeed a consensus that the lens is a gem. And secondly, because it should have a good reselling value, in case I decide to sell it in the future. Specially with the way I care of my gear.
As I said, I'm considering the 45, trying to stay into the primes realm, so I can shoot in low light, as I do very often, and keep weight low. But thinking about it, I'd also like to have the 12mm, since the widest I have is the 14, but sometimes I feel I need just a bit more.
Panasonic makes a UW adapter for the 14mm. not ideal but still it does give you a 11mm.
That is a good idea, but, between spending 120$ for the adapter, and around 200$ for the Samyang, I kind of lean towards the samyang.
24mm in 35mm film cameras have always been my preferred wideangle focal length, as much as 35mm for casual and street photography.
With the UW adapter the 14mm becomes a 22mm equiv. the 20mm is close enough to 35mm equiv. in my opinion
Now, the 45 is about 350$, the 12 is way more, but I could go and find a Rokinon 12mm f:2 for around 400, or even go wider and get the 7.5, which I've read is a very sharp lens.
I own the 7.5mm and i am willing to recommend to everyone. It's sharp and built very well.

It is a fisheye though so it does have a lot of barrel distortion. it's a great lens but not always useful.
I also like to have the 25mm, but that is going far away from my intended budget, which is around 600.
You already have the 20mm right. So focus on other focal lengths first
I was also thinking about going cheap, and get the Sigma 60mm f:2.8, and the Samyang 7.5mm, and I'd be also below my budget.
That is also good if you like shooting tight portraits. personally i would only buy this sigma on Apsc mirrorless bodies like the a6000. since it's just a more useful focal length in that system.
So, and coming to a close on my dissertation, I might simply go all the way and reach out for the 12-40mm, forget about the primes, sell my 14mm, and with the money I get from the 14 I'd be around my budget.

I'd keep the 20 for light weight shooting. Love that lens, and I'll never part from it.
nor would i!
What do you think? 12-40mm or couple primes? I mean, is the 12-40mm that good?
Uhm yes the 12-40mm is the best wide-standard zoom in the m43 system. however i think this system is all about using those fast small primes. They just give you more control over depth of field and i just like shooting with primes. makes me think more about the composition then convenient zooms. but that's just me
Good point
Do you have any suggestions of other combination of lenses?
The 7.5 mm fisheye is a lens that gives you a incredible FOV. It's a MUST have

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the 45mm turns the em-10 in a great portrait shooter with nice thin depth of field. get that one for portraits.
So far, my money is on the 45mm and the 7.5mm. I might change my mind when I'm about to make the purchase, but for the moment, I'll hold on the 12-40mm. Lets make it a Christmas 2015 present.
Again, thank you very much to taking the time. Very helpful advise.

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Martin Ocando
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