70-200 mk2 -vs- 100-400 mk2

seems an unfair comparison, as the 70-200 is stopped down, but, here is both lenses at f5

70-200, then 100-400

70-200 mk2 @200mm @f/5.0
70-200 mk2 @200mm @f/5.0

100-400 mk2 @200mm @/5.0
100-400 mk2 @200mm @/5.0

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a fair bit of gear, a reasonable idea.
Thanks, seems about the same sharpness wise. Impressive feat of the new 100-400!

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Regards. Anders
 
Maybe you cage - I mean very minor. Nonetheless the new 100-400 seems quite amazing. I'm hoping we'll get to see more images in various lighting conditions, subject distance etc from others on this forum to learn more about this lens.

I currently own a 500 IS II & 24-105 and was looking to get a lens to cover the focal lengths in between. I had almost made up my mind to get the 70-200 2.8 II and use it with the 7D Mk II to get a FOV of 112-320 (or use it with a FF for wildscapes) until the new 100-400 showed up.
Since I'm primarily interested in the 100-300 length the new 100-400 seems like a promising candidate. My old 100-400 had to be stopped down to f8 most of the times to get tack sharp images and that did not work well with my wildlife photography as the shutter speeds then dropped too low.
speeds then dropped too low.
 
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having used the 100-400 for a week it is shaping up to be a very considered lens

if i could only have one (100-400 mk2 or 70-200 mk2) then for my personal work (i.e. none paid) i would take the 100-400.
will be interesting to try the 100-400 on a model shoot.

there are some caveats though
• the 100-400 "feels" slower to focus than the 70-200
• only the central few AF points (of my 1DX) are active
• the inner zoom of the 70-200 is nice
• it would be nice if there were a dot to visually indicate the locked /unlocked status of the friction ring

positives
• the 100-400 feels well balanced, even at 400mm
• i don't miss the 30mm between the 24-70 and 100-400
• doesn't feel any bigger than the 70-200, but does have more "girth"
• the tripod foot is very nice. means the tripod adapter maybe removed without dismounting from the camera
• IS mode 3 is useful
 
100-400mm mk2 LEFT, 70-200mm mk2 RIGHT
100-400mm mk2 LEFT, 70-200mm mk2 RIGHT



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a fair bit of gear, a reasonable idea.
 
I do intend to shoot closer than 10 feet, and already have. I think this lens's ability to focus so close makes my 100 f/2.8 macro non-IS lens redundant in my lens collection.

FF
 
And a different color. But still a helpful test that shows how good the new zoom is.

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Many folks 00-200 range the new 100-400 IS II is very comparable to the 70-200 f2.8 IS II making the 70-200 redundant in their kits.
Personally, a slow zoom like the 100-400 would never replace a fast zoom such as the 70-200 f/2.8. A lot of sports folks I know pair their 70-200 with a 400 prime, and f/2.8 is what makes this combo shine. Having said that, a 100-400 might be a great light weight kit for those two lenses when you can give up f-stops. It should also give a good run against the Canon 200-400.
 
Many folks 00-200 range the new 100-400 IS II is very comparable to the 70-200 f2.8 IS II making the 70-200 redundant in their kits.
Personally, a slow zoom like the 100-400 would never replace a fast zoom such as the 70-200 f/2.8. A lot of sports folks I know pair their 70-200 with a 400 prime, and f/2.8 is what makes this combo shine. Having said that, a 100-400 might be a great light weight kit for those two lenses when you can give up f-stops. It should also give a good run against the Canon 200-400.
whilst I would certainly like to own either, unfortunately I could neither afford or fustily a 400mm f/2.8 or 200-400.

the 100-400 is an acceptable compromise

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a fair bit of gear, a reasonable idea.
 
I suppose to be fair you should also have tried the 70-200 at f/5.6
Not really.

I'm comparing the lenses wide open at max aperture.
If one doesn't wish to use the lens at f/2.8 then save money, size, weight and get the f/4.

To use the f/2.8 at anything other than max aperture is an unfair comparison.
 
Strange that nobody at all seems to care about dof when discussing this lens?

personally I will never buy it as I would never shoot those apertures at those focal lengths

my 72isii stays at 2.8 always

my 300is stays at 2.8

the 500 stays at 4
I'm with you!
 
The new 100-400 zoom is an impressive beast and I would love to have one. But what concerns me about this lens isn't it's performance. It's the limitations set on it by its own design. The 70-200 IS II is a constant 2.8 with 3-4 stop IS. The 100-400 maxes out at F4 and loses ground as it zooms. I expect the IS is at least equivalent if not better than the 70-200. If this new beast was sporting a constant F4, then we are only talking about 1 stop difference and likely not that big of a deal. But also, many of us would not be looking at the lens anymore because the price would be fourfold or better than what it is now. Most of us that have purchased the 70-200 2.8L IS II, did so with a purpose. I would love to add the new 100-400 to my (short) list of gear, but I WILL NOT be selling my other big white to find it!
 
The new 100-400 zoom is an impressive beast and I would love to have one. But what concerns me about this lens isn't it's performance. It's the limitations set on it by its own design. The 70-200 IS II is a constant 2.8 with 3-4 stop IS. The 100-400 maxes out at F4 and loses ground as it zooms. I expect the IS is at least equivalent if not better than the 70-200. If this new beast was sporting a constant F4, then we are only talking about 1 stop difference and likely not that big of a deal. But also, many of us would not be looking at the lens anymore because the price would be fourfold or better than what it is now.
this lens exists: EF 200-400 f4 (incl. 1.4 extender)
Most of us that have purchased the 70-200 2.8L IS II, did so with a purpose. I would love to add the new 100-400 to my (short) list of gear, but I WILL NOT be selling my other big white to find it!
 
Excellent points regarding the fixed aperture 2.8 for the 70-200. When it comes to low light situations the f2.8 should shine. All my lens in my kit are currently f4s so I'm very keen on the 70-200. I'll rent both these lens out in the next few weeks and report back on my findings.
 
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The new 100-400 zoom is an impressive beast and I would love to have one. But what concerns me about this lens isn't it's performance. It's the limitations set on it by its own design. The 70-200 IS II is a constant 2.8 with 3-4 stop IS. The 100-400 maxes out at F4 and loses ground as it zooms. I expect the IS is at least equivalent if not better than the 70-200. If this new beast was sporting a constant F4, then we are only talking about 1 stop difference and likely not that big of a deal. But also, many of us would not be looking at the lens anymore because the price would be fourfold or better than what it is now.
this lens exists: EF 200-400 f4 (incl. 1.4 extender)
Most of us that have purchased the 70-200 2.8L IS II, did so with a purpose. I would love to add the new 100-400 to my (short) list of gear, but I WILL NOT be selling my other big white to find it!
 
Still, the lens I speak of does not exist. I was speaking about a 100-400 with a fixed F4 aperture. The lens you brought up is not that lens. It's missing the entire area between 100-200. Really? Do you guys just think the big whites are all interchangeable? Seriously? First someone says that the 100-400 is good enough that they don't need their 70-200, I stated that I, for one, cannot do without the faster aperture and would maybe consider a hypethetical 100-400 F4 providing that the price was within the reach of us regular people. And now you're telling me that the lens that I'm looking for already exists in the form of the 200-400 with built in 1.4 TC. Let's talk about this for a minute, while the 200-400 is yet another sweet lens that I would love to have, IT IS NOT A 70-200 2.8L IS II!!! It is insanely sharp and insanely expensive but that doesn't mean it will do what I need it to. It won't. While the 100-400 is a stop slower and lacking on the side end from 70-100, the 200-400 is still a stop slower and lacking in the entire zoom range of the 70-200!! This conversation started as a discussion on whether the 100-400 could replace the 70-200 and now you are suggesting that the 200-400 can replace the 70-200. That's like having a Land Rover and a Ferrari and saying that they are interchangeable just because they are both high caliber vehicles. Supercar, SUV! 70-200, 200-400. They can both fit beautifully together in my camera bag but neither one can replace the other. Period.
if there were to be a 100-400 f4 it would likely cost similar to the 200-400 f4

so, taking list price, that's 6x the price of the 100-400 mk2

for certain applications the 100-400 mk2 can replace the 70-200 mk2

each unto their own
 
Ray Chen wrote
It should also give a good run against the Canon 200-400.
I'm thinking the same thing.

If one can accept a slower lens (f5.6) and do without the built-in extender, they would save $9600. That's a helluva lot of money.

I have not used the new 100-400, but I've rented the 200-400. From the images I've seen so far, I don't see much difference in IQ between the two lenses.
 

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