AOKH
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Thanks, seems about the same sharpness wise. Impressive feat of the new 100-400!
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Thanks, seems about the same sharpness wise. Impressive feat of the new 100-400!
Personally, a slow zoom like the 100-400 would never replace a fast zoom such as the 70-200 f/2.8. A lot of sports folks I know pair their 70-200 with a 400 prime, and f/2.8 is what makes this combo shine. Having said that, a 100-400 might be a great light weight kit for those two lenses when you can give up f-stops. It should also give a good run against the Canon 200-400.Many folks 00-200 range the new 100-400 IS II is very comparable to the 70-200 f2.8 IS II making the 70-200 redundant in their kits.
whilst I would certainly like to own either, unfortunately I could neither afford or fustily a 400mm f/2.8 or 200-400.Personally, a slow zoom like the 100-400 would never replace a fast zoom such as the 70-200 f/2.8. A lot of sports folks I know pair their 70-200 with a 400 prime, and f/2.8 is what makes this combo shine. Having said that, a 100-400 might be a great light weight kit for those two lenses when you can give up f-stops. It should also give a good run against the Canon 200-400.Many folks 00-200 range the new 100-400 IS II is very comparable to the 70-200 f2.8 IS II making the 70-200 redundant in their kits.
Not really.I suppose to be fair you should also have tried the 70-200 at f/5.6
I'm comparing the lenses wide open at max aperture.
If one doesn't wish to use the lens at f/2.8 then save money, size, weight and get the f/4.
To use the f/2.8 at anything other than max aperture is an unfair comparison.
I'm with you!Strange that nobody at all seems to care about dof when discussing this lens?
personally I will never buy it as I would never shoot those apertures at those focal lengths
my 72isii stays at 2.8 always
my 300is stays at 2.8
the 500 stays at 4
Not really.I suppose to be fair you should also have tried the 70-200 at f/5.6
I'm comparing the lenses wide open at max aperture.
If one doesn't wish to use the lens at f/2.8 then save money, size, weight and get the f/4.
To use the f/2.8 at anything other than max aperture is an unfair comparison.
this lens exists: EF 200-400 f4 (incl. 1.4 extender)The new 100-400 zoom is an impressive beast and I would love to have one. But what concerns me about this lens isn't it's performance. It's the limitations set on it by its own design. The 70-200 IS II is a constant 2.8 with 3-4 stop IS. The 100-400 maxes out at F4 and loses ground as it zooms. I expect the IS is at least equivalent if not better than the 70-200. If this new beast was sporting a constant F4, then we are only talking about 1 stop difference and likely not that big of a deal. But also, many of us would not be looking at the lens anymore because the price would be fourfold or better than what it is now.
Most of us that have purchased the 70-200 2.8L IS II, did so with a purpose. I would love to add the new 100-400 to my (short) list of gear, but I WILL NOT be selling my other big white to find it!
this lens exists: EF 200-400 f4 (incl. 1.4 extender)The new 100-400 zoom is an impressive beast and I would love to have one. But what concerns me about this lens isn't it's performance. It's the limitations set on it by its own design. The 70-200 IS II is a constant 2.8 with 3-4 stop IS. The 100-400 maxes out at F4 and loses ground as it zooms. I expect the IS is at least equivalent if not better than the 70-200. If this new beast was sporting a constant F4, then we are only talking about 1 stop difference and likely not that big of a deal. But also, many of us would not be looking at the lens anymore because the price would be fourfold or better than what it is now.
Most of us that have purchased the 70-200 2.8L IS II, did so with a purpose. I would love to add the new 100-400 to my (short) list of gear, but I WILL NOT be selling my other big white to find it!
if there were to be a 100-400 f4 it would likely cost similar to the 200-400 f4Still, the lens I speak of does not exist. I was speaking about a 100-400 with a fixed F4 aperture. The lens you brought up is not that lens. It's missing the entire area between 100-200. Really? Do you guys just think the big whites are all interchangeable? Seriously? First someone says that the 100-400 is good enough that they don't need their 70-200, I stated that I, for one, cannot do without the faster aperture and would maybe consider a hypethetical 100-400 F4 providing that the price was within the reach of us regular people. And now you're telling me that the lens that I'm looking for already exists in the form of the 200-400 with built in 1.4 TC. Let's talk about this for a minute, while the 200-400 is yet another sweet lens that I would love to have, IT IS NOT A 70-200 2.8L IS II!!! It is insanely sharp and insanely expensive but that doesn't mean it will do what I need it to. It won't. While the 100-400 is a stop slower and lacking on the side end from 70-100, the 200-400 is still a stop slower and lacking in the entire zoom range of the 70-200!! This conversation started as a discussion on whether the 100-400 could replace the 70-200 and now you are suggesting that the 200-400 can replace the 70-200. That's like having a Land Rover and a Ferrari and saying that they are interchangeable just because they are both high caliber vehicles. Supercar, SUV! 70-200, 200-400. They can both fit beautifully together in my camera bag but neither one can replace the other. Period.
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I'm thinking the same thing.It should also give a good run against the Canon 200-400.