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HP announced today 4 new printers. There's some interesting stuff in the press release, but the biggest news is that they now support 'real' boarderless printing on all sizes up to 8.5x11. If your biggest complaint was the 'tabbed' 4x6 boarderless feature, then this news should make you happier.

Here's the details:

HP Deskjet 5650 color inkjet printer: fast speeds (laser-quality black at up to 21 pages per minute (ppm) and color at up to 15 ppm), optional six-ink printing, 4,800-optimized dpi,(6) edge-to-edge borderless(2) up to 8.5 x 11-inch photo printing, print quality selector button, an estimated U.S. street price of $149(7);

HP Deskjet 5150 color inkjet printer: optional six-ink printing, 4,800-optimized dpi(6), edge-to-edge borderless(2) up to 8.5 x 11-inch photo printing, an estimated U.S. street price of $99(7);

HP Deskjet 3650 color inkjet printer: optional six-ink printing, borderless 4 x 6-inch photo printing,(8) an estimated U.S. street price of $79(7);

HP Deskjet 3520 color inkjet printer: up to 2,400 x 1,200-dpi color printing -- and crisp black from a single tri-color cartridge, compact size with fold-up paper tray, an estimated U.S. street price of $39.(7)

Also, HP announced the availability of new photo papers with better gloss and a thicker, better feel. Same industry-leading fade-resistance as their last generation of photo papers when using OEM ink...

The 5650 has a front panel that lets you select your print quality from the printer. This is handy if you print on plain paper and want to switch between 'draft' mode and 'best' mode without having to mess with the printer driver. Of course if you're only interested in printing photos on glossy paper, then this probably isn't a huge feature... but it's cool if you use the printer for day-to-day printing as well as photos.

-phils
 
WHY IS THERE NO LARGE FORMAT PRINTER IN SIGHT??? :)

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phils,

Hey this all sounds great but...........Yes sorry there is always my butt following me around LOL but, I wish HP would make a printer that would print at 4800DPI and print on larger papers larger then 8 1/2 X 11. They do make a printer for that however it's only at 2800DPI :)
 
wonder when one will be able to buy the 5650, the price is right, so the inki is going to be expensive i bet
phils,
Hey this all sounds great but...........Yes sorry there is always
my butt following me around LOL but, I wish HP would make a printer
that would print at 4800DPI and print on larger papers larger then
8 1/2 X 11. They do make a printer for that however it's only at
2800DPI :)
 
If you look on the second page for the 5600 series then you find "resolution technology : HP PhotoREt III (HP PhotoREt IV-enabled) " so it probably is the same quality output as the photoprint types, much as the 5550/7*5* comparison.
And the most important - new printers contain photoret III vs IV in
photo printers !!!!

To find more please follow the link on http://www.hp.com website:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02a/18972-236251-236261.html
WHY IS THERE NO LARGE FORMAT PRINTER IN SIGHT??? :)

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Thanks SteveB for your correction I already notice this but just looking for clarification.

Why they put such wording. What does it mean photoret IV enabled ? Does it mean that for colour reproduction in photos they use IV ("natural tones") and for text + graphics III ("more vivid")?
And last question in general are HP printers EXIF 2.2 or PIM enabled?

Personally I’m considering all in one HP 2175 model any comments on photo output (absence of boardless non issue for me).
And the most important - new printers contain photoret III vs IV in
photo printers !!!!

To find more please follow the link on http://www.hp.com website:

http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF02a/18972-236251-236261.html
WHY IS THERE NO LARGE FORMAT PRINTER IN SIGHT??? :)

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Jeff,
Why they put such wording. What does it mean photoret IV enabled ?
Does it mean that for colour reproduction in photos they use IV
("natural tones") and for text + graphics III ("more vivid")?
And last question in general are HP printers EXIF 2.2 or PIM enabled?
Personally I’m considering all in one HP 2175 model any comments on
photo output (absence of boardless non issue for me).
I means you have a choice, of using the no.56 pigment black and no.57 tri-color carts, and therefore only uses three/four-ink printing, thus called Photoret III (these two carts came in the box), or have an option of replacing the no.56 with no.58 cart (or swap between them) and get six-color printing, or Photoret IV-enabled printing for more lab-like photo prints.

The psc 2170 (not sure of 2175, I think it's just branding convention in other parts of the world other than NA) is the same print engine as the deakjet 5000 series, the photosmart 7x50 series, with an option of either three-color (Photoret III) or six-color (Photoret IV) output. Their prints, since they use the same print engine, will essentially be identical.

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Ronald,

If yoy reside in NA, then the 51xx series will be out in August, only a month later, with a list price of under $100, and it's essentially the same as the 56xx series that allows true borderless up to 8.5x11.

Yes, if you anticipate printing more than 40 8x10s or 130 4x6s per month, then the ink will cost you in the end. The retail price of the combined carts no.57 tri-color and no.58 photo is a whopping $59.98. But with on-line coupons and discounts, you will probably get it at a lower price.
phils,
Hey this all sounds great but...........Yes sorry there is always
my butt following me around LOL but, I wish HP would make a printer
that would print at 4800DPI and print on larger papers larger then
8 1/2 X 11. They do make a printer for that however it's only at
2800DPI :)
--
Fotografer
...like, a total himbo
 
They are already here in Europe well to be precise at least in France for 99 euro.
If yoy reside in NA, then the 51xx series will be out in August,
only a month later, with a list price of under $100, and it's
essentially the same as the 56xx series that allows true borderless
up to 8.5x11.

Yes, if you anticipate printing more than 40 8x10s or 130 4x6s per
month, then the ink will cost you in the end. The retail price of
the combined carts no.57 tri-color and no.58 photo is a whopping
$59.98. But with on-line coupons and discounts, you will probably
get it at a lower price.
phils,
Hey this all sounds great but...........Yes sorry there is always
my butt following me around LOL but, I wish HP would make a printer
that would print at 4800DPI and print on larger papers larger then
8 1/2 X 11. They do make a printer for that however it's only at
2800DPI :)
--
Fotografer
...like, a total himbo
 
Future on all-in-ones

What all you think about new HP all-in-one based on new HP 5150 (boardless printing) with film scan adapter. Is seems like a dream machine for the moment.

Is it real to expect something like that in near future (early autumn)? Or maybe it is on the way?
HP announced today 4 new printers. There's some interesting stuff
in the press release, but the biggest news is that they now support
'real' boarderless printing on all sizes up to 8.5x11. If your
biggest complaint was the 'tabbed' 4x6 boarderless feature, then
this news should make you happier.

Here's the details:

HP Deskjet 5650 color inkjet printer: fast speeds (laser-quality
black at up to 21 pages per minute (ppm) and color at up to 15
ppm), optional six-ink printing, 4,800-optimized dpi,(6)
edge-to-edge borderless(2) up to 8.5 x 11-inch photo printing,
print quality selector button, an estimated U.S. street price of
$149(7);

HP Deskjet 5150 color inkjet printer: optional six-ink printing,
4,800-optimized dpi(6), edge-to-edge borderless(2) up to 8.5 x
11-inch photo printing, an estimated U.S. street price of $99(7);

HP Deskjet 3650 color inkjet printer: optional six-ink printing,
borderless 4 x 6-inch photo printing,(8) an estimated U.S. street
price of $79(7);

HP Deskjet 3520 color inkjet printer: up to 2,400 x 1,200-dpi color
printing -- and crisp black from a single tri-color cartridge,
compact size with fold-up paper tray, an estimated U.S. street
price of $39.(7)

Also, HP announced the availability of new photo papers with better
gloss and a thicker, better feel. Same industry-leading
fade-resistance as their last generation of photo papers when using
OEM ink...

The 5650 has a front panel that lets you select your print quality
from the printer. This is handy if you print on plain paper and
want to switch between 'draft' mode and 'best' mode without having
to mess with the printer driver. Of course if you're only
interested in printing photos on glossy paper, then this probably
isn't a huge feature... but it's cool if you use the printer for
day-to-day printing as well as photos.

-phils
 
I fail to see how these new printers are going to replace the Canon printers, and by the time these HP printers come out, Canon will be out with another generation. The ink cost for a HP is very high too.
 
Jeff,

It will be a 'dream' machine only when the inks becomes individual carts not combined one, like they are now...
Future on all-in-ones

What all you think about new HP all-in-one based on new HP 5150
(boardless printing) with film scan adapter. Is seems like a dream
machine for the moment.

Is it real to expect something like that in near future (early
autumn)? Or maybe it is on the way?
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Fotografer
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That's not a dream, because with separate inktanks, what you also get is a separate printhead - and as Epson and Canon have proven, if you separate the ink tank from the printhead, you increase the likelihood of clogs. It's as simple as that. HP knows this and won't separate the inktank from the printhead because it doesn't want Deskjet and Photosmart customers to have to deal with clogs and dead printheads. This is the one thing that still separates HP from Canon and Epson, and in my book, I'd rather deal with the possible loss of a little ink rather than deal with clogged nozzles and a 'permanent' printhead that dies right after warranty.

I would agree with you though, that if I could get the reliablity of HP's integrated print cartridge with the frugality of separate inktanks, that would be a dream. Actually, HP did that back in the early 90's with the Deskjet 1600 - it used 4 individual integrated print cartridges.

-phils
It will be a 'dream' machine only when the inks becomes individual
carts not combined one, like they are now...
Future on all-in-ones

What all you think about new HP all-in-one based on new HP 5150
(boardless printing) with film scan adapter. Is seems like a dream
machine for the moment.

Is it real to expect something like that in near future (early
autumn)? Or maybe it is on the way?
--
Fotografer
...like, a total himbo
 
phils,

Perhaps you have forgotten the designjet 10ps series system.

This printer contains six individual cartridges and six separate printheads too. The rated life of each printhead is a good 10,000 pages (I presume this is draft print mode). To top it off, the black, yellow, light magenta and light cyan all has a whopping 69ml cart while the magenta and cyan are smaller in capacity at 28ml each. This is because HP knows that in graphics heavy environment/usage, light magenta, light cyan, followed by yellow and then black are up to 3 times utilised more than magenta and cyan... This is a clever design, but alas, the ink light-fastness of designjet is poor...

If HP release their large format printer with the same designjet design, then that will be a dream machine.

Funny, I think it will take HP another year or two to come up with this design, like they took soooo long to come up with the designjet system. Oh well... :)

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HP are not interested in the prosumer, or serious amateur market because we are not profitable for their busines model. I am sorely disapointed because I do like their printers a lot.

They have to know we want a large format, separate ink tank, light fast system. The DesignJet series with better inks would be ideal - but instead they want to make cheap printers and sell us hideously expensive ink.

Certainly HP have the technology - but we do not represent a significant enough market for them and so we are

waiting for Godot...
 
HP Deskjet 3520 color inkjet printer: up to 2,400 x 1,200-dpi color
printing -- and crisp black from a single tri-color cartridge,
compact size with fold-up paper tray, an estimated U.S. street
price of $39.(7)
Which is not even twice the price of the $21 cartridge. I guess HP is adopting the Gillette model (give away the razor, sell the blades).
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Fazal Majid ( http://www.majid.info )
 
Well, Fazal,

ALL inkjet printer manufacturers are gearing towards this model too!

Lexmark does so earlier than HP. HP is now lowering the 'razor' price too. Canon and Epson low end also practically give their ware away, and those lower-end models also use combined carts...
HP Deskjet 3520 color inkjet printer: up to 2,400 x 1,200-dpi color
printing -- and crisp black from a single tri-color cartridge,
compact size with fold-up paper tray, an estimated U.S. street
price of $39.(7)
Which is not even twice the price of the $21 cartridge. I guess HP
is adopting the Gillette model (give away the razor, sell the
blades).
--
Fazal Majid ( http://www.majid.info )
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Fotografer
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