Backup method on trip without a laptop

mike in brazil · Dec 13, 2014

Sam_Oslo said:
mike in brazil said:

Russell Evans said:

mike in brazil said:

Russell Evans said:

mike in brazil said:

When you say expensive ...I am surprised b/c $220 for 2 TB of portable storage is cheap imo.

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The Winbook tablet can be either US $140 or US $99. A 2Tb drive is about US $90, probably less during the upcoming holidays, another $20 in hub and SD Card reader for a total of around US $210 or US $250.

Thank you
Russell

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Hi Russell, but are you talking about a 2Tb drive that is stand alone with its own battery power? That is what I was focusing on with this version.

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The USB 3.0 port on the tablet will power a small drive. I don't know how long it will last though. Speed is amazing, so maybe it will last longer as it takes less time to transfer files? Nice thing about the Winbook tablet is that it has both a microB USB port and the full USB 3.0 port. You can charge the tablet while using the USB 3.0 port to transfer files. If you need more battery life, you can just buy an external battery to power the drive, or maybe just to charge the tablet. I've been plugging in the USB hub to a battery pack and powering the card reader and hard drive.

The My Passport Wireless is going to be easier to use on the go. It looks like you can insert the SD card, start the copy, and just shove the unit back in your bag. I wonder if it has an auto off? The tablet is going to take some setup to use a hard drive as you would need the hub and card reader as well.

I'm mostly planning on just using SD cards and the dual SD card reader for travel. I don't shoot enough photos on a trip to need terabytes of storage. A PNY 256Gb 90/60Mb/s card is $110. I already own a couple of PNY 64Gb 90/60Mb/s cards and just thinking I'll back up the cards used in the camera to the larger SD card. It will be more expensive, but will save weight, and I personally trust solid state more than spinning drives.

Thank you
Russell

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coming back to this idea ... omitting my original requirement that drive be self powered. Moving away from in field transfer to hotel room .. so assume wall power available.

Lets abstract the idea to its essence:
- Tablet which has UI (good for reviewing fotos) and ability to link together a SD card reader and external hard drive
- External hard drive ... e.g. WD Passport or other
- Card reader
- Connections / adapters

Russell suggested the Winbook, which seems ok, and cheap, but as I already have an ipad and android phone, I would prefer either of those ecosystems to yet a 3rd.

I know Ipad is limited in its wire connection capabilities out of the box but maybe some adapters are available now. Alternatively, android tablets is an option. Any suggestions on setting up a similar ecosystem with an Android tablet or Ipad?

Seems ipad is problematic in that even with lightning to usb connection there is no power for the external drive and there is no file system visibility or anything. So that is probably a non starter.
But maybe android?

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This is an old thread, but the newly released My Passport Wireless | Wi-Fi Mobile Storage - Western Digital seams to be a really good option now.

It's a small portable hard drive with up to 2TB capacity, but it has a Built-in SD card slot, where you can transfer or back up photos and videos from your SD card in the field. You don't need a laptop, phone or any other device for that.

It has several other useful functions too. It can connect wirelessly to phone and tablets for viewing content, and has Internet sharing function that acts as a Wireless Wi-Fi hub to share an Internet connection with multiple devices too. But new cameras have many of these functions too.

Hi Sam, this is going full circle ... I suggested My Passport Wireless originally. But there are downsides:

- Cost is 2x that of same device without wireless/sd reader

- More importantly, the xfer speed from sd reader to drive seems slow

- There are a fairly high number of negative reviews on the Wifi Passport

That is what drove discussion toward other combinations.

This RAVPower solution seems better to me as it can be combined with ANY USB drive, so you don't pay a premium for each and every new drive.

Here is outstanding review written with focus on backup of SD to USB

http://www.amazon.ca/RAVPower®-File...s/B00AQUMZRA/ref=dpx_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1

Key points from the reviewer:

I was looking for a solution when on vacation to be able to backup photos from the SD card in the camera. Up to now I travel with a netbook but with its case and charger, the netbook weight almost 2 kg. Now my kit is down to under 800 g with 7" tablet, AC charger, the FileHub, an Anker buetooth keyboard, and neoprene sleeve. I'm down to 1/3 of the weight of the netbook and with a much smaller package to fit in a day pack.

The FileHub has the footprint similar to a smartphone and a bit thicker. It has an SD car slot and a standard USB port. There is a micro USB port on the side just for charging. There is one button to turn on/off and 4 lights (on/off, wifi, SD card, USB stick). The device has an IP address of 10.10.10.254 and a password of "11111111" (eight ones). Log in with a web browser on a PC, phone or tablet and follow the steps in the wizard to setup an admin password and a wifi connection SSID, username, and password just like a wifi router. To backup photos, insert your SD card and the destination USB card or external portable harddrive. Turn on the device and on the phone or tablet, look for and connect to an SSID starting with "HUB...".

There are apps on the Play store and itunes store to operate the FileHub, but my experience with Android is the ES File Explorer app is a better choice. It is free and is even suggested by RAVPower.Whether using the RAVPower app or ES File Explorer, on the phone or tablet you can the files on the SD card. Select and Transfer the photos direct to the USB storage device. For rate of speed, it was transferring 2 MB photo files about every second, so for me a minute or two to backup a days shooting of around 100. The device transfer files go direct from one storage media to the other without need to temporarily store on the phone or tablet as with other solutions such a an OTG cable.

Sam_Oslo · Dec 13, 2014

mike in brazil said:
Sam_Oslo said:

mike in brazil said:

Russell Evans said:

mike in brazil said:

Russell Evans said:

mike in brazil said:

When you say expensive ...I am surprised b/c $220 for 2 TB of portable storage is cheap imo.

Click to expand...

The Winbook tablet can be either US $140 or US $99. A 2Tb drive is about US $90, probably less during the upcoming holidays, another $20 in hub and SD Card reader for a total of around US $210 or US $250.

Thank you
Russell

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Hi Russell, but are you talking about a 2Tb drive that is stand alone with its own battery power? That is what I was focusing on with this version.

Click to expand...

The USB 3.0 port on the tablet will power a small drive. I don't know how long it will last though. Speed is amazing, so maybe it will last longer as it takes less time to transfer files? Nice thing about the Winbook tablet is that it has both a microB USB port and the full USB 3.0 port. You can charge the tablet while using the USB 3.0 port to transfer files. If you need more battery life, you can just buy an external battery to power the drive, or maybe just to charge the tablet. I've been plugging in the USB hub to a battery pack and powering the card reader and hard drive.

The My Passport Wireless is going to be easier to use on the go. It looks like you can insert the SD card, start the copy, and just shove the unit back in your bag. I wonder if it has an auto off? The tablet is going to take some setup to use a hard drive as you would need the hub and card reader as well.

I'm mostly planning on just using SD cards and the dual SD card reader for travel. I don't shoot enough photos on a trip to need terabytes of storage. A PNY 256Gb 90/60Mb/s card is $110. I already own a couple of PNY 64Gb 90/60Mb/s cards and just thinking I'll back up the cards used in the camera to the larger SD card. It will be more expensive, but will save weight, and I personally trust solid state more than spinning drives.

Thank you
Russell

Click to expand...

coming back to this idea ... omitting my original requirement that drive be self powered. Moving away from in field transfer to hotel room .. so assume wall power available.

Lets abstract the idea to its essence:
- Tablet which has UI (good for reviewing fotos) and ability to link together a SD card reader and external hard drive
- External hard drive ... e.g. WD Passport or other
- Card reader
- Connections / adapters

Russell suggested the Winbook, which seems ok, and cheap, but as I already have an ipad and android phone, I would prefer either of those ecosystems to yet a 3rd.

I know Ipad is limited in its wire connection capabilities out of the box but maybe some adapters are available now. Alternatively, android tablets is an option. Any suggestions on setting up a similar ecosystem with an Android tablet or Ipad?

Seems ipad is problematic in that even with lightning to usb connection there is no power for the external drive and there is no file system visibility or anything. So that is probably a non starter.
But maybe android?

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This is an old thread, but the newly released My Passport Wireless | Wi-Fi Mobile Storage - Western Digital seams to be a really good option now.

It's a small portable hard drive with up to 2TB capacity, but it has a Built-in SD card slot, where you can transfer or back up photos and videos from your SD card in the field. You don't need a laptop, phone or any other device for that.

It has several other useful functions too. It can connect wirelessly to phone and tablets for viewing content, and has Internet sharing function that acts as a Wireless Wi-Fi hub to share an Internet connection with multiple devices too. But new cameras have many of these functions too.

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Hi Sam, this is going full circle ... I suggested My Passport Wireless originally. But there are downsides:

- Cost is 2x that of same device without wireless/sd reader

- More importantly, the xfer speed from sd reader to drive seems slow

- There are a fairly high number of negative reviews on the Wifi Passport

That is what drove discussion toward other combinations.

This RAVPower solution seems better to me as it can be combined with ANY USB drive, so you don't pay a premium for each and every new drive.

Here is outstanding review written with focus on backup of SD to USB

http://www.amazon.ca/RAVPower®-File...s/B00AQUMZRA/ref=dpx_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1

Key points from the reviewer:

I was looking for a solution when on vacation to be able to backup photos from the SD card in the camera. Up to now I travel with a netbook but with its case and charger, the netbook weight almost 2 kg. Now my kit is down to under 800 g with 7" tablet, AC charger, the FileHub, an Anker buetooth keyboard, and neoprene sleeve. I'm down to 1/3 of the weight of the netbook and with a much smaller package to fit in a day pack.

The FileHub has the footprint similar to a smartphone and a bit thicker. It has an SD car slot and a standard USB port. There is a micro USB port on the side just for charging. There is one button to turn on/off and 4 lights (on/off, wifi, SD card, USB stick). The device has an IP address of 10.10.10.254 and a password of "11111111" (eight ones). Log in with a web browser on a PC, phone or tablet and follow the steps in the wizard to setup an admin password and a wifi connection SSID, username, and password just like a wifi router. To backup photos, insert your SD card and the destination USB card or external portable harddrive. Turn on the device and on the phone or tablet, look for and connect to an SSID starting with "HUB...".

There are apps on the Play store and itunes store to operate the FileHub, but my experience with Android is the ES File Explorer app is a better choice. It is free and is even suggested by RAVPower.Whether using the RAVPower app or ES File Explorer, on the phone or tablet you can the files on the SD card. Select and Transfer the photos direct to the USB storage device. For rate of speed, it was transferring 2 MB photo files about every second, so for me a minute or two to backup a days shooting of around 100. The device transfer files go direct from one storage media to the other without need to temporarily store on the phone or tablet as with other solutions such a an OTG cable.

Oh, didn't mean to go in circles. I didn't read many posts since it was a 7 months old thread.

I have no personal experience with this Western Digital drive, but the concept is right, since this light and small device is all you need in the field. I agree, it's price is too high.

I personally don't take those Amazon reviews very serious become too many tend to write positive reviews just to defend their own purchase of a new toy, it's not only Camera fans who do that ;-) . But that RAVPower seams to be a good option at such a low price.

kblaw · Dec 13, 2014

I have the RAVPower. It takes some getting used to, but it works well.

Euell · Dec 13, 2014

F.C.G. said:
Hi all....

Which method do you use for backup camera SD WITHOUT a laptop?, any ideas?

I'm currently using an android phone...

1. Copy Photos from SD to phone microSD...

2. Copy photos from Phone microSD to external hard disk...

But..... it's very slow process nowadays... Time-Lapses and videos are huge space consumers...

I use the Ravpower wireless hub with a flashdrive for backup. Takes both the camera's memory chip and the flashdrive simultaneously and is operated with a Wifi connection from my Android phone.

mike in brazil · Dec 13, 2014

Euell said:
F.C.G. said:

Hi all....

Which method do you use for backup camera SD WITHOUT a laptop?, any ideas?

I'm currently using an android phone...

1. Copy Photos from SD to phone microSD...

2. Copy photos from Phone microSD to external hard disk...

But..... it's very slow process nowadays... Time-Lapses and videos are huge space consumers...

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I use the Ravpower wireless hub with a flashdrive for backup. Takes both the camera's memory chip and the flashdrive simultaneously and is operated with a Wifi connection from my Android phone.

Can you verify that the file transfer is "local" b/t the SD card and the flashdrive , and the files are not passing from the card reader to the hub and via wifi to the phone (controller) and from the phone back to the hub and finally to the hard drive ... as that would be very inefficient.

For example if you initiate a file transfer b/t the card and drive and then while that is in progress if you turn off the phone wifi does transfer continue? Even if that fails it does not disprove anything, but if it succeeds it will prove phone is not in the "middle"

Russell Evans · Dec 13, 2014

Sam_Oslo said:
Oh, didn't mean to go in circles. I didn't read many posts since it was a 7 months old thread.

Most the options were covered in this thread a long time ago. Filehub, MobileLite, microB USB hub and card readers for cell phones, ...

A new one that wasn't is the Dlink DIR-510L. What makes this one different than that this portable has Wireless ac, so both 2.4Ghz and 5Hz wireless bands. It has two USB 2.0 ports for attaching card readers and disks which is also a little different than the Filehub or Modilelite solutions that have SD card slots. If you use other media types, CF cards, with other cameras, this might also be preferable.

www.amazon.com/D-Link-Systems-Portable-Charger-DIR-510L/dp/B00HGLOQ24

Thank you
Russell

Russell Evans · Dec 13, 2014

mike in brazil said:
Can you verify that the file transfer is "local" b/t the SD card and the flashdrive , and the files are not passing from the card reader to the hub and via wifi to the phone (controller) and from the phone back to the hub and finally to the hard drive ... as that would be very inefficient.

I can confirm this is the case with the Mobilelite. With the Mobilelite you can start a copy and completely disconnect your mobile device and the copy will continue. This is really nice if you come back to your hotel to change for dinner as you can start the copy and leave the room. I mean literally, you can just walk out of the wifi range of the Mobilelite with your phone, and the copy will continue, and on returning, you'll find everything copied over.

Thank you
Russell

mike in brazil · Dec 13, 2014

Russell Evans said:
mike in brazil said:

Can you verify that the file transfer is "local" b/t the SD card and the flashdrive , and the files are not passing from the card reader to the hub and via wifi to the phone (controller) and from the phone back to the hub and finally to the hard drive ... as that would be very inefficient.

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I can confirm this is the case with the Mobilelite. With the Mobilelite you can start a copy and completely disconnect your mobile device and the copy will continue. This is really nice if you come back to your hotel to change for dinner as you can start the copy and leave the room. I mean literally, you can just walk out of the wifi range of the Mobilelite with your phone, and the copy will continue, and on returning, you'll find everything copied over.

Thank you
Russell

Ok, my bad for not reading the thread entirely ... I was initially fascinated by the stand alone nature of the Passport WIFI solution, so i whiffed on the early discussion of RAVPower, only to discover it myself by googling after your comments about an ecosystem approach.

Now, reading the earlier posts they make a lot of sense. Attempting to summarize things now if i can:

If one has a windows tablet Russell suggests OTG Cable approach is easiest.

For IOS devices we have choice b/t RAVPower, Mobilelite and now this D-Link Systems Wi-Fi AC750 Portable Router and Charger

Several users like RAVPower, no complaints.

Russell likes the Mobilelite solution, does not have experience with the RAVPower.

No one has experience with the D-Link Systems Wi-Fi AC750 Portable Router and Charger

Cost is not a factor as all these are cheap as this stuff goes.

Is there any final thought on which is better for two simple use cases:

1) xfer large number of files from SD to HD

2) Browse files on the HD (not edit, just browse to verify quality)

Xfer speed, seems that people report 2-3 MB/s for SD to HD with the RAVPower and Russell reports significantly faster 6.61MB/s though his test was SD to SD.

Seems the Mobilelite user base more frequently uses it for SD to Flash Drive rather than SD to hard drive, at least that is what i surmise on amazon. So their is less discussion about HD issues pro or con.

Power ... not sure if the RAVPower has advantage over the Mobilelite when it comes to powering an external HD. Can BOTH the RAVPower and the Mobilelite draw power from an AC source at the same time they are performing file xfer ... if so, this may not be a differentiating factor.

lim yau tong · Dec 13, 2014

they are very affordable now a day.

mike in brazil · Dec 13, 2014

lim yau tong said:
they are very affordable now a day.

Russell Evans · Dec 13, 2014

mike in brazil said:
Is there any final thought on which is better for two simple use cases:
1) xfer large number of files from SD to HD

I gave the Mobilelite to my niece as she is using an iPad and ipod. I have moved to using a Windows 8.1, eight inch, tablet with a USB 3.0 port with a dual slot USB 3.0 card reader. I do also have the USB 2.0 card reader and hub that connects to the micro B USB port in my phone or with the micro B USB port in the tablets. The tablet has both a full size USB 3.0 port and the micro B USB 2.0 port for charging and other use.

Each solution had its advantage.

The MobileLite was nice as I could set it up and go, but it required a little more setup especially with IOS devices. With Android devices you can create a custom stick on NFC tag to attach to the MobileLite, so that you can use an NFC tag agent with your Android device to setup and connect to the wireless network and start the right application. Maybe at some point the newer IOS devices with NFC will allows something similar.

The card reader USB hub was nice as it was just plugging in the device into my phone and then running the Android Photo Backup app with predefined copy from , copy to settings. The Android Photo Backup app is now gone from the Play Store, and it seems the only other tool now like this is a paid app. It's only a couple of dollars, so worth it in my opinion.

The Windows tablet is just fast as USB 3.0 ports and devices are used. The tablet also has the ability to bulk keyword tag and geotag photos. There are some solutions for keyword tagging raw files with Android, but all the solutions I've looked at so far are only able to keyword tag a single file at a time. I haven't found a solution for geo-tagging on Android. I personally find keeping up with keywording and geo-tagging nightly, is the only way I can actually accomplish it. For me this means the Window tablet solution is the solution I will use. I will still have my phone for backing up files if I encounter issue on the road with the tablet.

mike in brazil said:
2) Browse files on the HD (not edit, just browse to verify quality)

Pretty much any of the three will work for this, but both Android and IOS will need apps that can display the raw files. Windows 8.1 probably will have the best support for this and hopefully MS will keep up with the codec updates.

mike in brazil said:
Xfer speed, seems that people report 2-3 MB/s for SD to HD with the RAVPower and Russell reports significantly faster 6.61MB/s though his test was SD to SD.

And 15-18MB/s with transferring via the USB 3.0 devices on the Windows tablet.

mike in brazil said:
Power ... not sure if the RAVPower has advantage over the Mobilelite when it comes to powering an external HD.

The RavPower FileHub has a larger battery, so it will have the advantage of powering the setup for longer and providing more charge to another device if using the portable charging feature.

mike in brazil said:
Can BOTH the RAVPower and the Mobilelite draw power from an AC source at the same time they are performing file xfer ... if so, this may not be a differentiating factor.

This is incorrect. Both can draw power from a AC source as stated, but it is not required as long as you aren't using external drives that don't require more power than the two units can provide via the USB port, 5V at up to 1 amp. They both have batteries to provide their own power and power out the USB port for on the go.

The Windows tablet and Android device with OTG capability can do this as well. If you have a mix of an IOS tablet and an Android phone with OTG capabilities, you could also make your own FileHub/Mobilelite out of it. There are SMB servers for Android that could be used to serve files over wifi to an iPad and as the Android device has the ability to attach devices to its USB port, you should be able to replicate most of the functionality of the dedicated file sharing devices.

Thank you
Russell

mike in brazil · Dec 13, 2014

Thanks Russell, merit badge for you.

While we were away, I was talking to friend about this stuff, and at this point am leaning toward getting a small Asus Memo pad 8 ... at $150, very compact. Combine that with a Y cable (Micro USB Host OTG Cable w/ USB Power) so that it can funnel AC power to the external drive when in hotel.

Leaning toward this solution as this allows me to be all android based (phone and tablet) and file system work on ipad generally sucks. And I don't really need the network bells and whistles that the router/hubs discussed provide. And I already have a Lepow Moonstone 6000 mAh External Battery for on road case.

Seems pretty similar to your winbook scenario, except i will only have USB 2.0 whereas you have 3.0. However, my friend tested it with his Asus Transformer and he was getting 12 mb/s which should be ok for my primary use case on the road.

cheers

Russell Evans · Dec 13, 2014

mike in brazil said:
Leaning toward this solution as this allows me to be all android based (phone and tablet)

I'm hoping Console OS will develop into something and so have a Windows and Android tablet in one with my cheap Windows 8.1 tablet.

consoleOS - Experimental Android for Intel-based IoT and PC Devices - Console Enterprises

There is no excerpt because this is a protected post.

consoleos.com

Google also seems to be pushing ahead with Android apps running in Chrome, so that might also be how I end up running Android apps on Windows. Right now I would be fine with just Windows on the tablet if Sony would release the PlayMemories Metro app they reserved only for their now defunct, Vaio, Windows products.

Sony has a Playmenories Metro app with camera remote for Win8.1

The only thing is that they only make it available for their VAIO tablet which they don't sell anymore. Anyone know a Sony person that might be open to the idea of releasing the app to the general world now that Sony has moved on from making Win8.1 tablets...

www.dpreview.com

I really don't see the point in duplicating what I have with my Samsung S5 with a larger screen. To me it makes more sense to have the expanded, pretty much universal, USB hardware support of Windows, plus all the desktop software that Windows brings to the table.

When the battery finally dies on my cheap Windows tablet, I plan to just run it connected to AC power at home, with an attached USB hub and a few drives as a storage server. The tablet having both a micro B USB port for charging and the full size USB 3.0 port makes this possible. When you attach an OTG cable to a micro B USB port, it kills the ability to charge the device. At least it has for all the devices I've tried, Android or Windows.

Thank you
Russell

mike in brazil · Dec 13, 2014

hmm, seems there may be a problem with the OTG Android tablet approach. From what I have read it seems the Android device will only recognize ONE external device - card reader OR hard drive at a time. It does not recognize BOTH ... so copying from SD to HD in one step seems impossible. Unless someone has found the magic combination of cable / adapters / reader.

Looks like I may get the MobileLite or RAVPower after all.

mike in brazil · Dec 14, 2014

Russell, you make a compelling argument for the Winbook. To be honest it was completely off my radar.

You have the Tw800 or Tw801?

Have you tried running Photoshop on this?

Russell Evans · Dec 14, 2014

mike in brazil said:
hmm, seems there may be a problem with the OTG Android tablet approach. From what I have read it seems the Android device will only recognize ONE external device - card reader OR hard drive at a time. It does not recognize BOTH ... so copying from SD to HD in one step seems impossible. Unless someone has found the magic combination of cable / adapters / reader.

Looks like I may get the MobileLite or RAVPower after all.

That's not been my experience. Our phones will see two storage devices when plugged in. Both Phones are running KitKat, but the S5 is running 4.4.4 and the S4 is running 4.4.2.

Thank you
Russell

Russell Evans · Dec 14, 2014

mike in brazil said:
Russell, you make a compelling argument for the Winbook. To be honest it was completely off my radar.

You have the Tw800 or Tw801?

Have you tried running Photoshop on this?

The TW801. No I haven't tried Photoshop. It's not something I want to do with the small tablet. Travel time is also too expensive to be working with a computer except the little bit I find I need to do to keep up, keyword tag, geo tag, and the backup to be safe.

There is a raw developer I keep on the tablet, Fotor. It is a very simple raw converter and editor, but it provides what I think I would need at most if I want to play around with a file. It has both a Windows program and a Windows Metro app version. I just use the Metro version on the tablet as I can use this with just my finger.

I do have LR on the tablet and it is fine for importing, renaming, keywording, and geotagging. I can also use it for limited raw development. The small screen means it requires a mouse. I would like to get the Microsoft Arc Touch Bluetooth, but I have a hard time justifying it. My $11 thin bluetooth mouse works really well.

Thank you
Russell

Euell · Dec 14, 2014

mike in brazil said:
Euell said:

F.C.G. said:

Hi all....

Which method do you use for backup camera SD WITHOUT a laptop?, any ideas?

I'm currently using an android phone...

1. Copy Photos from SD to phone microSD...

2. Copy photos from Phone microSD to external hard disk...

But..... it's very slow process nowadays... Time-Lapses and videos are huge space consumers...

Click to expand...

I use the Ravpower wireless hub with a flashdrive for backup. Takes both the camera's memory chip and the flashdrive simultaneously and is operated with a Wifi connection from my Android phone.

Click to expand...

Can you verify that the file transfer is "local" b/t the SD card and the flashdrive , and the files are not passing from the card reader to the hub and via wifi to the phone (controller) and from the phone back to the hub and finally to the hard drive ... as that would be very inefficient.

For example if you initiate a file transfer b/t the card and drive and then while that is in progress if you turn off the phone wifi does transfer continue? Even if that fails it does not disprove anything, but if it succeeds it will prove phone is not in the "middle"

The phone is not in the middle and the transfer is direct within the unit. However, the phone is the controller (via wifi) and turning it off in the middle of a transfer is inadvisable.

Euell · Dec 14, 2014

mike in brazil said:
lim yau tong said:

they are very affordable now a day.

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Mike Stratil · Dec 15, 2014

I have been in communication with Wolverine, and they say that their PicPac series has been discontinued.

Is there a good replacement for this product? I want to copy from an SD card to an external HD.

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