Fake Hi key , does it cut it? 2 pics

Babe · Jun 29, 2003

well now I am tinkering around in Photoshop. Here is the original black and white (channel mixer PS7/Hue) and then background PS highkeyed.

B4

PS highkey

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Paulo Abreu · Jun 29, 2003

Hi Babe,

First place, let me say I like this shot !

Second, about the faked high key ... I think that it works however I guess that high key shots are not so bright white overall - it should be "almost" white and with some subtle shadows on transition from subject to background ... just my thoughts (5% reliable

...

Regards,

Babe said:
well now I am tinkering around in Photoshop. Here is the original
black and white (channel mixer PS7/Hue) and then background PS
highkeyed.

B4

PS highkey

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Stack · Jun 29, 2003

This is not me being a jerk, its an honest question.

What do you guys in North America class as high key?. I keep seeing what are labelled as High Key pics posted in here but to me they are simply photographs on a white background.

Freddy Rozentzvaig100749 · Jun 29, 2003

Michael,

You happened to pick it up perfectly correct. High Key is white background.

Happy Shooting,

Freddy

Stack · Jun 29, 2003

Cool, thank you.

Freddy Rozentzvaig100749 · Jun 29, 2003

All the best,

Freddy

Michael Stephen said:
Cool, thank you.

Artichoke · Jun 29, 2003

it may be due to resizing, but I detect a bit of "bleed" into the high key about your model's head
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GMD · Jun 29, 2003

actually there is slight differences in the use of the term
hight key ...

1. White background (snow white) and subject in good exposure

2. White background and subject with very soft, light edges almost
overexposed with little shadow .. thats more the original meaning

It's just easier to use high key than wihite background pic

)

Anyway .. Babe .. a bit too much undefined shadow in the face
from lack of light ..

have a look here

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1025&message=5461802

Have fun
gmd

Freddy Rozentzvaig said:
Michael,

You happened to pick it up perfectly correct. High Key is white
background.

Happy Shooting,

Freddy

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Artichoke · Jun 29, 2003

here is a candid I took at a social affair

is this a high key candid, then?

I just love this photo and have a B&W version posted, here http://www.pbase.com/image/18230388/original
as well as shooting information, should you be interested
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ajs2 · Jun 30, 2003

Hi,
Well it looks like high key to me, and a very fine example too.
Alex

Artichoke said:
it may be due to resizing, but I detect a bit of "bleed" into the
high key about your model's head
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GMD · Jun 30, 2003

but not high key for me ..
High key is still white bg .. + maybe some overexposure
in the subject ... yours is not high key in my terms but
interesting effect nevertheless...

Have fun
gmd

Artichoke said:
here is a candid I took at a social affair

is this a high key candid, then?
I just love this photo and have a B&W version posted, here
http://www.pbase.com/image/18230388/original
as well as shooting information, should you be interested
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Fuji forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke

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Babe · Jun 30, 2003

thanks for looking and commenting. I guess I am experimenting with all sorts at the moment.

cheers,
babe
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Babe · Jun 30, 2003

thanks for the definition. I had another go at it and raised the exposure with curves in PS:

vs my previous example

is this more like it? Thanks for the link to Pfiltz, he does good, doesn't he?

And yes, I am having fun

)

babe

GMD said:
actually there is slight differences in the use of the term
hight key ...

1. White background (snow white) and subject in good exposure

2. White background and subject with very soft, light edges almost
overexposed with little shadow .. thats more the original meaning

It's just easier to use high key than wihite background pic )

Anyway .. Babe .. a bit too much undefined shadow in the face
from lack of light ..

have a look here

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1025&message=5461802

Have fun
gmd

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Babe · Jun 30, 2003

I am trying and learning all in good fun.

cheers,
babe
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Babe · Jun 30, 2003

thanks for looking and commenting. I'll pay attention to the original.

babe

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GMD · Jun 30, 2003

and even a bit more would be ok ..
try the following .. take the colour pic
change it to cmyk .. go to curves
select the black and bring it down to 0
in the skin tones .. use the colour picker to
measure .. C=10 M=30 Y=30 K=0 in the
lighter portions of the skin .. not in the shadows
but even in the shadow areas the skin should not
have K

then convert it to B&W using either channel mixer

just an idea .. give it a try ..

)

Dont worry about hot spots .. blown highlights
they are not tabu .. just important to use them right

I am not a high key people expert .. but will do
some test shots myself in a few days ..

Have fun
gmd

Babe said:
vs my previous example

is this more like it? Thanks for the link to Pfiltz, he does
good, doesn't he?

And yes, I am having fun )

babe

GMD said:

actually there is slight differences in the use of the term
hight key ...

1. White background (snow white) and subject in good exposure

2. White background and subject with very soft, light edges almost
overexposed with little shadow .. thats more the original meaning

It's just easier to use high key than wihite background pic )

Anyway .. Babe .. a bit too much undefined shadow in the face
from lack of light ..

have a look here

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1025&message=5461802

Have fun
gmd

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AndrewLT · Jun 30, 2003

For Babe,

I too, am all for learning...and from your post alone we give and take from everyones experience. That's whats great about it, we never stop learning. Here's one of my inspired fake Highkey aswell...

http://www.s2pro.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1121

KeEpOnShOoTiNg...

Babe said:
I am trying and learning all in good fun.

cheers,
babe
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Babe · Jun 30, 2003

I'll give it a go. I am burning and dogding ok in B&W but doing great with color prints, got any PS tips there?

thanks for the great input. I'd like to see your shots when you're done.

cheers,
babe

GMD said:
and even a bit more would be ok ..
try the following .. take the colour pic
change it to cmyk .. go to curves
select the black and bring it down to 0
in the skin tones .. use the colour picker to
measure .. C=10 M=30 Y=30 K=0 in the
lighter portions of the skin .. not in the shadows
but even in the shadow areas the skin should not
have K

then convert it to B&W using either channel mixer

just an idea .. give it a try .. )

Dont worry about hot spots .. blown highlights
they are not tabu .. just important to use them right

I am not a high key people expert .. but will do
some test shots myself in a few days ..

Have fun
gmd

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