canon person
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When I look back at countless images taken with my 20D, I am amazed as to how great they looked, in comparison to those produced by my 5D3. Anyone else out there with similar thoughts? C/c welcome. Thank you.
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How do I get my 5D3 images to look like my 20D images?
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jpegman
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Wow - talk about the way-back machine!
What are we talking about jpeg's or RAW.
If jpeg's, since they get processed in the camera we have Canon's 2004 image development interpretation verses their 2012 interpretation! The 5D3 has 2012 menu settings which can give many different "looks" to the outputted jpeg.
If RAW - you are in control using Adobe Camera RAW or Canon's DPP processing engines to customize how your 5D3 images should look.
Jpegman
What are we talking about jpeg's or RAW.
If jpeg's, since they get processed in the camera we have Canon's 2004 image development interpretation verses their 2012 interpretation! The 5D3 has 2012 menu settings which can give many different "looks" to the outputted jpeg.
If RAW - you are in control using Adobe Camera RAW or Canon's DPP processing engines to customize how your 5D3 images should look.
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brightcolours
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.. give any comments, let alone critisizm, if we do not see any of your 20D images, and none of your 5D mk III images?
M Stewart
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I think I understand perfectly what you are asking.
I checked out some 10D images (6MP) the other night, and Wow! were they impressive! They were shot with my EF 35 F/2 and were of the Liverpool Waterfront in spectacular late afternoon sunshine, under a stormy sky. My guess is that the high contrast area of the lens' MTF curve was captured well by the limited resolution sensor, and that my later bodies, 5D, 5D II etc. with their higher resolution are now capturing the lower contrast higher resolution parts of the MTF curve. I was viewing on my 24" wide screen HD monitor, bought after I'd moved on from the 10D being my only DSLR.
not from me you wont ..i have a 40d that i find it hard to get as good images out of it than my 20d and i have yet to see images to better my 5dmk1 a dont like the imagers from the 5dmk11 but the mk111 looks better than the mk11 ..probably in a lab the new cameras have a better IQ... with my 40d i believe the problem is it has a stronger AA filter which means you have to give it more sharpening which puts the noise up so you use noise reduction and end up with an image that looks more "digitel" looking ..somebody better at PP then me may do a better job on the 40d than me
IT pointless posting images for comparison as most will say look the mk11 photo you can definitely see that blade of grass that you cannot see on the mk1 so the mk 11 muat have better IQ
i think the reason the 5dmk1 look so good to me is the cleanness of the image, and also a weak AA filter ..many people on here complain that when a new high mega pix camera comes out that the imagers look soft at 100% ,the replies are don't view at 100% it your camera out resolving you lens or something else our other ..if thats the case how come its possible to pixel peep with a 5dmk1 at 200% and still have a crisp image(obviously you need a good lens) when you will need 25mp to match the size at 100%
i would like other 5Dmk1 owners to comment on this
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Try PSKISS. They are DNG profiles for lightroom and ACR.
canon person
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I will try to send some jpgs. All of my images were taken in RAW. When I look at the "coloration" for lack of a better word, and especially the 20D images with a viewer, they are outstanding. As I progressed from a 5D to a 5D2, 5D3, and tried a 7D2 recently, they just don't have that "kick @ss" pop to them, like the 20D. If the 20D had all of the bells and whistles, frame rate, MP, etc. of my 5D3, I can see why people like myself were VERY PLEASED with their work product.
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Hmm... when people talk about pop they usually mean contrast with maybe a little extra saturation. The more consumer the camera, the more tailored they are for consumer tastes of contrast & colour.
I like the colour & sharpness of the 40D but the noise at iso 400 wasn't so clever.
yes but that should only be the case with jpegs out of the camera ...i suppose the sensor could have a bearing on it.. the cheaper/older cameras may have less dynamic range so may seam more contrasty
brightcolours
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That is not how it works. The tonal curve is responsible for contrast, and black and white point. The DR is the extra room hidden in RAW, to adjust the tonal curve in conversion and pull up or down black and white points.
hmm well what happens to the tonal curve if one sensor has les DR??? will the white and black points be closer together ???
brightcolours
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No. Usually, cameras always have more or less the same tonal curve. More DR just means more hidden DR in RAW.
Schwany
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Nostalgia is powerful stuff. I wonder if you would think the same if you were actually taking those same shots back then with both cameras? Which one would be capturing the better image all things being equal? I'm thinking you'd probably like the 5D3 image quality better at say ISO3200.
its not nostalgia ..but yes a image from a 5dmk1 is pants at asa3200.. its at base iso i was compering and i do like the files from the mk111..but less so from the mk11..i cannot say technically why i prefer the mk1, for want of a better word it just looks less "digitel " and nice ..other cameras i not like are eos 350-500 don't now about the newer ones i not look ..the 10d was not a favorite dont like my 40d did like the old D60 . i do fancy i new body and it will probably be d mk111
Schwany
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I was responding to the OP regarding the 20D and 5DMkIII.
I use the tree view. The other view mode makes no sense to me at all. Never know who's talking to who without a quote.
Personal taste can be nostalgic.
canon person
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Some jpgs. They are not my best, but they have been converted to jpgs/ Either from my 10D or 20D.
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brightcolours
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They are from the 10D, according to the EXIF. Now, can you show some from the new camera?
Some jpgs. They are not my best, but they have been converted to jpgs/ Either from my 10D or 20D.
My suspicion is that you probably shoot with the standard camera settings, and those may not be the same between the different cameras. But they can be changed.
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