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New Canon almost as good as 5 year old Sony and Nikon cameras...
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tbcass
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This is true but since the view in burst is only 1/8 or 1/12 second behind the action I found it quite easy to get used to. I'll admit that at first I found it a bit disconcerting but with smooth panning I am able to follow the action with no problem at all. Here's a sequence that demonstrates that I can pan action with bursts with no problem and the ability of the A77ii to stay locked on to a subject despite someone getting between me and the subject I was focused on.A77 II has an EVF and will show a slide show of the photos previously taken when shooting bursts (unless Sony has don something about this lately). That makes taking pan shots very tricky. I've tried this with a Panasonic GH3. Gives "Spray and Pray" a new meaning
How this matches up against the 7Dii I can only guess but tell me of another camera in this price range (the A77ii sells for $900) that can do this.
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zakk9
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Try that on racing cars, airplanes or other fast moving vehicles. Airplanes are worst, since when they disappear from the viewfinder, the AF will start hunting and there's no way to find the bugger again until it's too late.This is true but since the view in burst is only 1/8 or 1/12 second behind the action I found it quite easy to get used to. I'll admit that at first I found it a bit disconcerting but with smooth panning I am able to follow the action with no problem at all. Here's a sequence that demonstrates that I can pan action with bursts with no problem and the ability of the A77ii to stay locked on to a subject despite someone getting between me and the subject I was focused on.A77 II has an EVF and will show a slide show of the photos previously taken when shooting bursts (unless Sony has don something about this lately). That makes taking pan shots very tricky. I've tried this with a Panasonic GH3. Gives "Spray and Pray" a new meaning
How this matches up against the 7Dii I can only guess but tell me of another camera in this price range (the A77ii sells for $900) that can do this.
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Tom
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Misuse of the ability to do 100% pixel peeping is the bane of digital photography because it causes people to fret over inconsequential issues.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63683676@N07/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25301400@N00/
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tbcass
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Really no difference since, while planes and cars do travel faster, you are much farther away so the angular motion isn't much faster. There are posts on the Sony forums of someone shooting jets that were tracked with no problem at all with the A77ii even though obstacles appeared between him and the planes.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54745058
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Tom
Look at the picture, not the pixels
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Misuse of the ability to do 100% pixel peeping is the bane of digital photography because it causes people to fret over inconsequential issues.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63683676@N07/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25301400@N00/
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Harsh. That would explain all the donations to charities from corporations. Though I do think CEO's act to ensure the survival of the company and continued paychecks to the families who depend on them.
Those donations by corporations are window dressing. I didn't say psychopaths are stupid -- many individual psychopaths are very good at concealing themselves by imitating what "real" people do.
By the way, most people working in corporations are not psychopaths or sociopaths, but you can be assured that lots of the senior people are.
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I wish y'all would stop saying the a77ii sells for $900 on Amazon.
It's not being sold by Amazon for that price. That's the price from a vendor I've not heard of.
A reputable vendor such as B&H is still selling it for $1050, down from $1199.
It's not being sold by Amazon for that price. That's the price from a vendor I've not heard of.
A reputable vendor such as B&H is still selling it for $1050, down from $1199.
tbcass
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It was selling for $899 until a few days ago when the price went up.
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Tom
Look at the picture, not the pixels
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Misuse of the ability to do 100% pixel peeping is the bane of digital photography because it causes people to fret over inconsequential issues.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/63683676@N07/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25301400@N00/
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Canon has worked hard to cement its image as an iconoclast: whereas every other manufacturer tries to improve sensor performance, Canon--the fashionable renegade that it is--stands still, shuffling its feet while remaining in one place--in a remarkable impression of a Michael Jacksonesque moonwalk.
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I don't even know what that all means.
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loved reading this debate! it's way OT but can't resist. sorry, corporations these days are not your friends and there's little benefit to devotion to one (well save for the company that is, free marketing and all). like any industry that matures, they will always figure out how to maximize their return through every loophole in the land; you think those head offices are in the cayman islands or bermuda because of the sunny weather or the CEO's 'generosity'? the only incentive for corporations to even behave in any civil way at all is regulation, so what does that tell you; if they could legally kill you (which many do over the long term) for money they would do it, so long as they are within the rules. there's a reason canon and all makers spread weird combinations of features over several models, rather than just sell one with everything, and it's mostly about duping consumers and gaming the buying psychology to their advantage. heck I'd even say half of the performance discussions in DPR are over meaningless nitpickiness planted (or at least encouraged) by the makers to get us to care about things we don't really need at all so that we'll buy an upgrade next year. sociopathic at the very least.
whoever said companies used to have loyalty is correct, but, once an industry matures, forget it, capitalism gone haywire.
whoever said companies used to have loyalty is correct, but, once an industry matures, forget it, capitalism gone haywire.
Companies are sociopathic because our system incents greed. My own views of economic policy are pretty whacked. Take down wall street. People ought not be able to make money on so much speculation. Companies should be required to buy back their stock over time because the stock market is essentially vaporware and evil and companies beholden to it make stupid decisions based on what? Greed.
Once a company is large enough to actually have an economic impact on a community, there should be a myriad of rules and regulations surrounding their ability to lay off large groups of people - it should never be done to improve the bottom line, only to effect survival. In my opinion, a company of that size is no longer a company, it's a public trust and it's there to serve the community and not the other way around.
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I know, you do not have time to learn your cameras strong and weak points and how to best use them.
But if you are so dependent on a cameras sensor performance, you miss the whole point of photography, which is capturing the moment in history.
First the light must get to the sensor, than the sensor data must be processed by the camera, plus the person photographing needs some idea how to use the camera.
If not, you need all the dynamic range you can get, plus all the luck you can get.
There are many so called photographers who do not know the difference between photographing the sun and photographing a scene with the sun.
Give a bad photographer the best photographic equipment made and they may luck up and get a decent picture.
Give a good photographer experienced with a pin whole camera a pin whole camera; he will return quality work.
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