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New Canon almost as good as 5 year old Sony and Nikon cameras...
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gianstam
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Something is wrong with peoples mind. Are they idiots? They even highlight the 7D and 5dMKIII as some of the most lovely cameras. I'm afraid that they don't often visit this forum wich includes so many specialists and strong opinion members. Anyway bad for them.
When Canon owners bought into their systems a few years ago, the discrepancy wasn't as wide and in fact, some would claim there wasn't one. But they have bought into a system and Canon is slow to catch up right now. This doesn't stop Canon users from representing a larger number of professionals and producing award winning photographs.
Is it poor sensor performance? I don't think Canon images look "poor". If we compare the sensor performance to recent Nikon and Sony variants, Canon is a bit behind. But I don't think this is enough to move people off Canon en masse. Especially not when their cameras are still producing awesome images.
Canon doesn't need to invest in better sensors, because people buy their cameras anyway.
The goal of a corporation is not to make the best products, but to make the most PROFIT, and Canon is doing that.
The Incredible Hoke
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Man, people are really enjoying piling onto Canon over this DxO test. I've never owned or been interested in Canon, but this is like the third or fourth thread I've seen about this one test.
alexisgreat
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yes, and at the expense of the environment and anything else that really matters- that's why corporations are considered sociopathic entities. You can read about that in any psych journal.
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Low dynamic range has been my biggest gripe with Canon sensors. Sad to see they are still behind, even after all these years. In addition to Canon, I'm now also using Fuji X system, and I'm really enjoying the wider dynamic range Fuji sensors deliver. Come on, Canon, get off your butts and do something with your sensors, rather than just milking your customer base with minimal R&D. It's getting old.
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..and building better sensors would somehow make Canon less sociopathic? they seem to keep more production in Japan with higher environment and employment standards than many of their rivals.
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On a camera like the 5D3 or the 70D that's aimed at more general use I can see why the low DR at base ISO is a big problem for me, indeed its part of the reason I went Nikon when I went FF.
However with a camera like the 7D mk2 I'm not sure its as big an issue, this isn't a camera you buy for shooting landscapes, its a camera you buy primarily for shooting action. Not only is this less likely to need shadows lifted, I think its also much more likely that people will be shooting over base ISO where Canon's DR disadvantage is much less.
Whats more unlike FF were not really comparing like vs like when it comes to sensor size with Canon's 1.6 crop. With normal lenses this maybe a non issue and maybe even a negative with UWA but for an action camera range is what most users will want and to get the same range as the Canon with a 1.5 crop your talking losing around 10% of your noise performance.
The whole point about a lack of advancement "over 5 years" when it comes to basic noise performance seems a bit like misdirection to me as well, this isn't the early 00's and in general noise performance improvements have been much slower in recent years.
alexisgreat
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No, Canon is fine, and eventually market pressure will force them to catch up. My post was in response to the person who talked about corporations only interest being higher profits.
Good reply.. I note that the view that Canon sensors are inadequate stems in part from findings by DXO, whoever they are.
I wonder how many cameras do I need to own to shot some action, some landscape, some low light and some family scenes. I hoped one and different lenses but you seem to tell that many.
tbcass
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Gross overstatement. Sure Canon's sensor tech is behind others but that doesn't mean the performance is poor at all, just a step behind. For 95% of photography one would see no difference.
Just like whining about people paying top dollar for a Samsung HD TV when Coby makes HD TVs too! Lol! The 7D2 is better at high iso as proved by DPR even though dxo made numbers saying it doesn't.
tbcass
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The high iso ratings of the A77ii and A7ii are within the margin of error and essentially zero. In other words they are equal. I would also venture that for most photography DR is more important and in this area the A77ii has a significant advantage. DPR proved nothing.
Steve Bingham
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I am a Nikon guy, but I know MANY pros who make a damn good living shooting Canon. Besides, it's the person behind the camera who makes the difference.
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No you can get by with one camera. But if you show up to where people are shooting landscapes with a 7d mkII camera, you have to put up with crap comments from Sony users. If you show up at the local kids sports game with a Sony camera, you have to put up with crap comments from 7d mkII users. At least if your town's population is made up of nit picky camera critics.
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