Is it worth getting a Leica M7 but not having enough money to buy a proper lens with it?

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Hi.

I'd like to buy a Leica M7 but cannot afford to buy one of their lenses with it. Are there any alternative cheaper lenses that I could mount onto one?

Thanks,

Jimmy.
 
Hi.

I'd like to buy a Leica M7 but cannot afford to buy one of their lenses with it. Are there any alternative cheaper lenses that I could mount onto one?

Thanks,

Jimmy.
Leica lenses are the main reason (besides the rangefinder, if that's your thing) to get a Leica. They are fantastic lenses. Save up for at least a proper 50mm Summicron.

By the way, you have some excellent work on your website. Keep up the good work! You can certainly take wonderful photos with any decent camera. If you want a full frame digital body, you can get a good D610 or Sony A7 for less than the price of a Summilux or Summicron. If you want a better film camera there are medium format cameras that are a lot cheaper and have a lot better image quality than a Leica film camera like the M7. If you want something timeless like a Leica but for less money and better image quality (relative to a film Leica), consider a Rolleiflex. Good luck!
 
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Hi.

I'd like to buy a Leica M7 but cannot afford to buy one of their lenses with it. Are there any alternative cheaper lenses that I could mount onto one?

Thanks,

Jimmy.
You are considering making a very foolish photographic and financial mistake. You should live within your means. You should also learn what is involved in getting good image quality. You certainly don't need to own a Leica to get good image quality.
 
Have you considered one of the Voigtlander Bessa R2A/R3A/R4A cameras? Rangefinder, film, and has aperture priority mode like the M7. It'd be a more affordable way to get into rangefinder shooting, and you'd also have a bit more money to put toward a better lens.
 
in addition to all the above mentioned lenses there are close to a million screw mount lenses made by a few dozen different lens makers including but not limited to Minolta. Nikon. Canon. Wollensak. etc etc ad infinitum. and another million or so Russian lenses again using the screw mt. there are no shortages of very expensive and very cheap lenses for the M Leicas including some excellent used leica lenses. My favorite bargin lens is the f 2 summitar which gives up some edge performance to the early summicron is fine stopped down past f2.8 and my favorite bargin thirtyfive leica is the early summicron or summaron with eyes. eyes are a bit harder sell
 
I bought the lens first, but if I were to get an M7(saving for one now) I would definitely want to use a Leica lens like a 35 f/2 or 1.4.
 
Are you saying that because you held one and shot with it for a day? I didn't know what it was about the Leica body, after I got the lens. Once I tried the lenses I wanted on the bodies at the store, I just had to get one. It's a weird feeling; must be love. Makes you do crazy things.
 
I apologise, tex I am new to this.
What are you running at the moment, J ?
(and what "look" are you trying to achieve with Leica ownership ?
 
First of all, as the poster above mentioned, don't buy a system you can't afford.

One reason to ask yourself why do you want a Leica? I own M3 with 2 lenses, both 50s one in cheap and ancient 50mm summarit f1.5 and another is much more expensive 50mm summilux f1.4. The first one is for my BW photos and summilux is for colour. The camera and lenses are 50+ years old.

Once I got it, I sold all of my 35mm SLRs. Rangefinder suits me better in 35mm, but it might not suit you.

I also own a hasselblad, different tools for different jobs.

Things that I like about leica, besides it being the smoothest camera I have touched:

I mostly like to shoot street and portraits with it, things that I like about the camera and rangefinder in particular.

1) It's much faster to use than my hasselblad.

2) No viewfinder blackout. This is the biggy for me, with film you can't preview the image, I know if someone blinked while I was taking photo and I can retake it. It's important for portraits.

3) I like to be able to see outside of the frame, it helps me composing. No tunnel vision.

4) You are not restricted by the DOF. If something interesting is happening in the background or foreground, I can clearly see it and I can refocus.

5) Virtually no shutter lag. 16ms for M3 and 12ms for M7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutter_lag

6) With the M3 rangefinder, it's very easy to focus on eyes in the dark. I find it to be a big issue with my film SLRs, most of the time split screen is horizontal and it's hard to get good focus. For that reason in my hasselblad I flipped the split screen to make it vertical.

I like shooting grainy BW film on it, trix and delta 3200 with my summarit (many call it bad quality), I really like the results, even if too most people they are not "perfect" enough. As for colour, I really like the results I get using ektar and provia with my summilux. I like the character of both lenses.

Also before I bought this system, I was after both of these lenses and camera because of particular look I was after
 
Bottom line is they are a lot of used ones out there. Second get a lens like the CZ 35mm F/2.8. It is a the excellent lens for the money. Slow simple lens in the RF world are gems, it may just out do Leica's last $6K F/1.4, speaking of which. I have the Leica 35mm F/1.4 before the new one with a floating rear element. A close distances the new one has less focus shift then old one, not no focus shift and focus shift is seen at close distances, farther away less. The difference is very, very minor. Is Leica going to make a bad lens, I think not. Pick it up used at a $3k savings and with a very small loss of sharpness that no one will notice. Bottom line, buy Leica used when ever you can. Read! Did you know the Leica 24 F1.4 is not that good of a lens, Nikon is better and the low cost 24 F/3.8 is the est corrected and sharpest of all. I have the no longer made 24mm F/2.8 which is just a tad behind the f3.8, but better made and mine is chrome. Read and look and watch and get deals.
 
I apologise, tex I am new to this.
Doesn't look like it, based on your blog. Pretty nice work, if you are as young as you look, btw.

But no need to apologize, either. Nevertheless , still a legitimate question? There are good places on the net to talk about your questions, but DPR is surely not the best place.

And you should still look into a Mamiya 7, if you want to shoot film, the way you do.
 
Hi.

I'd like to buy a Leica M7 but cannot afford to buy one of their lenses with it. Are there any alternative cheaper lenses that I could mount onto one?
Leica cameras are a beautiful thing to behold. But there's really no use in spending all that money without the Leica lenses which is where all the image magic comes from - especially in the film world.

The 3rd party lenses are fine - Zeiss and Voigtlander. I just don't see spending $5k (for new) on a film body when the real advantage is in the glass. Why not get a Zeiss Ikon and Zeiss lenses? Or maybe a Contax G2?
 
This post reply to me is very confusing. I'm not even questioning about a Leica or their lenses since I own them. Strange post...
 
Hi.

I'd like to buy a Leica M7 but cannot afford to buy one of their lenses with it. Are there any alternative cheaper lenses that I could mount onto one?

Thanks,

Jimmy.
with a red dot. Don't get me wrong, the M7 is an excellent camera, but there are lots of excellent cameras on the market that don't cost as much. Buy a good lens then find a camera to fit it, if you care about photography.
 
Are you saying that because you held one and shot with it for a day? I didn't know what it was about the Leica body, after I got the lens. Once I tried the lenses I wanted on the bodies at the store, I just had to get one. It's a weird feeling; must be love. Makes you do crazy things.
 
Are you saying that because you held one and shot with it for a day? I didn't know what it was about the Leica body, after I got the lens. Once I tried the lenses I wanted on the bodies at the store, I just had to get one. It's a weird feeling; must be love. Makes you do crazy things.
 
Nothing's wrong with being in love with how a camera looks. But obviously when paying such a lot of money other things come into play (not just at that sum).

I am currently running on a Canon 5D Mark III with a 24-70mm f/2.8 USM II
 
Hi.

I'd like to buy a Leica M7 but cannot afford to buy one of their lenses with it. Are there any alternative cheaper lenses that I could mount onto one?

Thanks,

Jimmy.
Depending on the type of photography you want to do, if you want a film rangefinder that will produce much better quality images than a Leica there are a number of medium-format rangefinder cameras that can be found at very reasonable prices, most notably the Mamiya 6 and 7 (with interchangeable lenses) and various Fujis (with fixed lenses).

J.
 

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