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Iain G Foulds
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... Attractive subject, and complimentary colors in the background. But, the background- though slightly blurred- has awkward, unbalanced elements that distract. Always consider the backgrounds equally as the subjects in compositions.
... However, the loud watermark just ruins the photo. If you desperately need a watermark, perhaps a quarter the size and essentially transparent.
... However, the loud watermark just ruins the photo. If you desperately need a watermark, perhaps a quarter the size and essentially transparent.
I particularly like the 2nd image, great expression, eye contact, and nice catchlight in her eyes. Iain being our resident know it all/done little, having never shot an event doesn't realize you can't always control your backgrounds and you can lose a moment trying to orchestrate things too much, especially taking pictures of young children. Again you have something to work with and much of that can be cloned out. The watermark is what it is...I've seen a lot worse, and yours could easily be removed by someone who wanted to steal the shot.
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... Herb: So, you are admitting that I am right about the background, and you've seen worse watermarks. Thus, admitting that both my points are right.
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Then by your own logic since you havent refuted the statements that you are a know it all done little you are accepting both charges... and he is right no?
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... Adam: I offer my thoughts on photographs... nothing more.
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I think being a know-it-all done little is the basic entry criterion for this forum. Our most esteemed colleagues tend to get their degrees elsewhere.
In terms of feedback, I agree with both Iain and Herby. One can see the critical flaws with one eye while enjoying the spirit of the shot with the well lit adorable subject with the other. The feedback, I felt, was constructive because the op might instinctively choose a slightly different background next time. And one can still choose to enjoy the image as is.
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In terms of feedback, I agree with both Iain and Herby. One can see the critical flaws with one eye while enjoying the spirit of the shot with the well lit adorable subject with the other. The feedback, I felt, was constructive because the op might instinctively choose a slightly different background next time. And one can still choose to enjoy the image as is.
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The difference Brev as someone whose done Event photography I know especially with children you don't always get the chance to manipulate the subject into the perfect position because of a variety of factors and you either get the shot or lose it. There is also the question of attitude, Iain has no problem denigrating a person's photography in a demeaning manor when he has little experience or from the pictures he provides, the skill to back it up.
Brev00
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Which is why I said there were two ways of seeing it: as a person taking the photo in and critiquing it or putting it in the more forgiving context of getting the expression, the subject, the emotion in the moment. Regardless of that, I think the op is able to handle a variety of responses. The only part of Iain's comment I would question is where he says the watermark ruins the shot. Since a watermark is entirely superficial, I don't think it can ruin anything. It might detract from our appreciation and complete experience of a photo as it is presented. Since the main focus of the shot, for me, is the girl's face, I am easily able to ignore the watermark. But, that is me. Still, the remark may lead the op to reconsider his watermark. There is no reason to post personal attacks.
I like the first image. It might be cropped square (1:1 aspect ratio).
Your "(c)" expression is cool. Just like logos, there are so many designs, some subtle, some bold, some boring...
There is no "right" or "wrong" in arts. Furthermore, I'm here to enjoy your images, not to prove that I am right.
Thanks for sharing.
Your "(c)" expression is cool. Just like logos, there are so many designs, some subtle, some bold, some boring...
There is no "right" or "wrong" in arts. Furthermore, I'm here to enjoy your images, not to prove that I am right.
Thanks for sharing.
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Iain G Foulds
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... From an artistic perspective, I can't see how one can accept that there are elements one's composition that must be ignored.
... It is an understandable stage in early photography when the artist only considers select elements, and not the composition as a whole.
... Understand the commercial necessity of watermarks, but would err on the side of subtlety.
... It is an understandable stage in early photography when the artist only considers select elements, and not the composition as a whole.
... Understand the commercial necessity of watermarks, but would err on the side of subtlety.
Brev00
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Take a look at the VJ Day kiss, one of the most famous photos ever. Lousy background. If our eyes go to where the photographer wants, such issues mean nothing. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/brev00... From an artistic perspective, I can't see how one can accept that there are elements one's composition that must be ignored.
... It is an understandable stage in early photography when the artist only considers select elements, and not the composition as a whole.
... Understand the commercial necessity of watermarks, but would err on the side of subtlety.
Yeah... But I'm afraid the "wise elders" won't be able to take what you give them because they are full of themselves.
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Never thought there were any "wise elders" set in there ways around here...haven't met any yet...certainly none full of themselves. Unless you're seeing things in people you haven't been around long enough to really judge that well. If you don't know what true constructive criticism is god forbid don't go to a camera club, photo class or seminar anytime soon you'll think everyone there is full of themselves.
That's "elderspeak." Relax, don't hurt yourself.
This virtual zoo is no "camera club, photo class or seminar." Don't take it too seriously. Get out for fresh air and, most important, real images.
You should of seen me yesterday...way back out in the back roads of Mt. Baker wilderness ankle deep in a stream making sure I didn't fall on my ass or knock my camera into the water...was a fun but exhausting day.That's "elderspeak." Relax, don't hurt yourself.
This virtual zoo is no "camera club, photo class or seminar." Don't take it too seriously. Get out for fresh air and, most important, real images.
Cheers!You should of seen me yesterday...way back out in the back roads of Mt. Baker wilderness ankle deep in a stream making sure I didn't fall on my ass or knock my camera into the water...was a fun but exhausting day.
I managed to get a few ducks. Day was overcast, contrast was okay, but the ducks looked pretty good and, like you, I had fun.
Coming from a guy that doesn't have a creative bone in his body, and really not wanting to be critical as I love the shot in general, what's with the extra pieces that don't match along the left side and bottom of the second photo. Couldn't they be cloned over some how?
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