Why do so many people sell their Nikon 14-24mm F2.8 lenses after just a few tries?

I don't know... lately I feel that UWA lenses are very easy to overuse. When I review the work I've done with my 16-35, most of it pegged at 16mm, I can't help thinking that many of the shots end up with severe perspective distortion and tiny details in the background. Many of these shots I now feel would have been better at 20mm or so. Maybe I just don't have the eye for it. After a while I did learn how to compose shots at 16mm that didn't have that UWA 'look', but whether the same or a better shot was not possible at 20m... I'm dubious.
 
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I have been in locations, where I needed 14 mm to get it all in......

Terracotta Warriors in China.

Angkor Wat in Cambodia

At one temple, I could just get all the Apsaras in. I could not zoom with my feet, because I was standing on a ledge, and impossible to move back, and keep the same perspective . Fall about 5 feet to the next level.

I am now thinking of a Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 , just to add to my collection of 15 Nikon lenses from 8mm f2.8 to 800mm f5.6 :-)

Regards Peter
 
As already written in this thread, there are a lot of reasons to like or dislike this lens. Personally, even at 64 YOA I can't imagine leaving home without it in my camera bag if I think there's any chance at all to use it. Architecture, jousting, and everything in-between can be captured with this lens. I used it to get stunning photos of the Dale Chihuly Glass Art exhibit in Seattle, and the next day used it to capture a great image of Snoqualmie Falls. It's heavy, and it's versatile. So much depends on what you shoot and what you value in a lens. For me, the 14-24/2.8 is a must-have tool.
 
Many of the purchasers of this lens were Canon shooters. Who knows how many Nikon>EOS adapters 16-9.net sold. However, Canon released their 16-35/4 IS this year which is purported to be very sharp all the way to the tips. Many of the dumpers may Canon shooters "coming back home".

I have been considering buying a Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 for landscape photography. Here in Canada we have a popular free version of eBay called Kijiji.com There are always a number of these lenses for sale on this online market where the owner says they used it only once or a few times.

Why do you think that is? Is this lens too difficult to use? Is there too much flare? Are people that put off by no use of filters?

This is such an expensive lens I would assume that people would be slow to buy it new or used and would have done a lot of research before jumping in. Yet, so many buy it and then turn around and sell it without hardly ever using it. Just wondering.....

Rudy
 
Now that I have owned and sold the 14-24, I think I'm now qualified to answer.

Let me preface that I had the 16-35VR for 3 years and loved it. Sold it for 18-35G because I wanted a lighter lens, and then sold it for the 14-24 because I wanted the best, or so I thought.

A big mistake. A confounding epic fail, if you will.

For the 14-24's first test, I took it to Yosemite. Within seconds of taking the first shots, I was greeted by flares...there were flares everywhere! And not just a simple flare, but the kind of flare that destroys the entire image. It didn't matter where the sun was - in front of me, above me, behind me, it would just flare. That was my biggest issue with it.

Then I started walking around the Merced River, where the great Ansel Adams have captured so many iconic landmarks in his time. I sat down and set up my tripod. Feeling inspired about the great framing and light that is about to shimmer on the unfolding scene, where El Capitan, Bridalveil Falls, and Merced River come into one. I reached for the LEE filter pocket and realized... "oh crap, this lens doesn't take filters!"

There I stood, bewildered.

I took a shot anyway, and the ever present flare manifested itself yet again.

"Ok, fine.", I said. So I took my rig and hiked the Four Mile Trail. There, I started to realize how heavy the 14-24 is, and how I constantly had to zoom in to 24mm to retract the bulbous element and protect it from Yosemite's wilderness.

Slowly, it dawned on me that the lens is actually a liability to my style of shooting - a detriment even. It's an event lens that is capable of shooting landscapes, but not the other way around.

On the way home, I looked at the 14-24. It was staring back at me, with its bulbous element exuding that arrogance as if saying "I am the best wide angle there is on the planet and you will never get rid of me". But I didn't care. Oh no I did not. In my mind, you are overhyped. An overhyped lens that is a product of the internet, where gear heads lurk who want nothing but the best, yet disregarding actual shooting conditions.

I arrived home and humbly packed the arrogant lens, off to its next owner.

I then acquired another 16-35 and I instantly felt like I was reunited with a long lost friend. Welcome back, 16-35VR, I will therefore wrap my arms around you tightly and never let go again. Good riddance, 14-24. At least I have lived with both and I can honestly say that it is the 16-35VR that I'm in love with. Oh the horror on the perfectionists faces.

A parting shot with the 14-24 and D800E. Yosemite Valley, September 2014.
Obviously you didn't try enough :-)

I love my Nikon 14-24 lens and would never part with it. BTW, I have ly recentpurchased the Lucroit Filter holder and a 2 stop soft edge Hi-Tech Graduated filter for it...

Haven't used the filter yet, but have used the lens extensively in China and Cambodia ( Angkor Wat )

I could not have taken some photos if I didn't have the 14mm focal length . I could not have " zoomed with my feet , either "

http://lucroit.com/SHOP/product.php?id_product=156

Regards Peter
Sorry Peter, I don't know how else I could "try enough". The 14-24 doesn't work for me. Just because everyone raves about something, it doesn't mean it's the right choice for everyone.
 
Agreed. I think the 16-35 is also often a misunderstood lens. It's the opposite of the 14-24 - a landscape lens that can be used for some other things. It's a bit of a fickle beast, and rewards careful focusing. It performs best at infinity from about 20mm. Below 20mm it rewards use of hyperfocal technique. It has consistent sharpness across the entire frame at f10. Great micro contrast. And the VR that lets me walk around in a forest with a polarizer and take shots at f10 and still get sharp results.
 
As already written in this thread, there are a lot of reasons to like or dislike this lens. Personally, even at 64 YOA I can't imagine leaving home without it in my camera bag if I think there's any chance at all to use it. Architecture, jousting, and everything in-between can be captured with this lens. I used it to get stunning photos of the Dale Chihuly Glass Art exhibit in Seattle, and the next day used it to capture a great image of Snoqualmie Falls. It's heavy, and it's versatile. So much depends on what you shoot and what you value in a lens. For me, the 14-24/2.8 is a must-have tool.

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Hunter
Hunter,

Agree with you 100%.... BTW , I have purchased the Lucroit adapter kit for the 14-24 lens and a HiTech 2 stop soft edge graduated filter.
And I was about to succumb to that large expensive filter system but now that the 20mm 1.8 is being released I'm sure my 14~24 will get some neglect in the field.
Regards Peter
 
I have rented the 14-24 for travel before, and found the lens wonderful to use. Except for the weight. You just can't get past the weight when traveling. I have never purchased the 14-24 due to the weight. Carrying it around walking through hot cities while traveling, it's just not fun.

The 18-35, however, is light enough to keep in your bag all the time. It got heavy use in Europe and I couldn't be happier with the choice.

But the 14-24 is a spectacular lens.
Mike,

I have taken mine across China by train. Have taken it to Harbin a few years ago, and I sheltered from the cold in a church. The 14mm focal length was invaluable when I took some interior shots.

I have used it in Cambodia at Angkor Wat in Cambodia, and, if it did not have that 14mm focal length, I could not have taken some photos. Zooming with my feet, would have had me falling about 1.5 meters ( 5 feet).

The 14mm focal length enabled me to get in one frame, the whole pit at the Terracotta Warriors in China.

Regards Peter
 
Wow! Those look fantastic to me. Good job!



... as I almost sold mine a couple of weeks after I bought it. But then I started to read up on how to use UWA lenses and started to experiment with a critical eye. And over time I fell in love with this lens and wouldn't give it up for anything else. The versatility of a zoom lens in the UWA range is of great benefit to my kind of shooting. BTW I have never found weight to be an issue - I frequently backpack with upto 25 pounds of camera gear (including bag weight) for 10+ miles and 3,000+ feet elevation gains.

Here are some images from this lens and my D700/ D800e (some are a little dated, but you get the idea).

Tuolumne Meadows, Yosemite National Park

Tuolumne Meadows, Yosemite National Park

Joshua Tree National Park, CA

Joshua Tree National Park, CA

Yosemite National Park, CA

Yosemite National Park, CA

Big Sur, CA

Big Sur, CA

Big Sur, CA

Big Sur, CA

Downtown Los Angeles, CA

Downtown Los Angeles, CA

Hearst Castle, CA

Hearst Castle, CA

Canyonlands Park, CA

Canyonlands Park, CA

Cheers,

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Nikhil
http://www.nikhilshahi.com
 
Based on my assessment It is built for a couple of uses; a. photographing people in really small places standing close to the camera depicting the space and ambiance capturing most visible. And also it does a wonderful job rendering images of large geometric forms from which you can't distance yourself.

I am a heavy user of wide and super-wide lenses on larger formats both digital and analogue. Bulk of my work is architectural. I am yet to see a higher quality and "versatile" lens with such angle of coverage, I recognize that there are not very many who are interested with the same kind of photography I do so naturally less people find it something necessary to have in their arsenal but almost all armature photographers approach and want to check the lens out when they see it out in action. some have even told me they would buy it. I guess once they play with it for a while and don't see real need for it they opt for selling it to get something else to try out.

At its widest; it is useless for "general" landscape photography; the kind of photography most enjoy doing. At its narrowest it is not fast enough for low light; but, used at the right place nothing can match its ability and versatility.

Renting one may be a better idea than buying and selling after a few shots.
 
the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
 
Many of the purchasers of this lens were Canon shooters. Who knows how many Nikon>EOS adapters 16-9.net sold. However, Canon released their 16-35/4 IS this year which is purported to be very sharp all the way to the tips. Many of the dumpers may Canon shooters "coming back home".
I sold my 14-24G for the Canon 11-24L this past year, an amazing lens. The 14-24G was an amazing lens itself for its time especially when the Canon UWA choices of the period were dreadful.
I have been considering buying a Nikon 14-24mm f2.8 for landscape photography. Here in Canada we have a popular free version of eBay called Kijiji.com There are always a number of these lenses for sale on this online market where the owner says they used it only once or a few times.

Why do you think that is? Is this lens too difficult to use? Is there too much flare? Are people that put off by no use of filters?

This is such an expensive lens I would assume that people would be slow to buy it new or used and would have done a lot of research before jumping in. Yet, so many buy it and then turn around and sell it without hardly ever using it. Just wondering.....

Rudy
 
the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
I can think of plenty of good reasons. Shooting indoors or in poor light means being able to shoot with a lower ISO.
 
the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
I can think of plenty of good reasons. Shooting indoors or in poor light means being able to shoot with a lower ISO.
Yep. The F2.8 AF is better then F4 in low light.
 
What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
First of all, this is a two year old discussion. but anyway, after all these years of shooting with this lens, I think since 2007 or 2008 when it first hit the market? I am still having fun with it. use it on my Canon, Nikon, and now even the Sony A7R II. selling it any time soon? highly unlikely.

And I actually wish it's even faster than F2.8, why? I shoot wide open with this lens all the time, Milky Way and starry night sky without tracker is what i shoot with this lens the most these days, so to me F2.8 is huge advantage over F4 lens, lucky we now have the Samyang 14 F2.8 too other wise I would be shooting with two of them by now. At one point I was tempted to replaced that with the Zeiss 15 F2.8 but after playing with it and I found the Zeiss has fair amount of COMA so I decided to just stick to what I have now.
 
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the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
I can think of plenty of good reasons. Shooting indoors or in poor light means being able to shoot with a lower ISO.
With a ultra wide angle lens indoors, what are you shooting indoors that you need this lens to be wide open. If you are shooting real estate you want to bump the ISO to get the best DOF so the image is sharp and crisp. Shooting 2.8 will ruin most images if not all and for the shallow DOF trick the wider the lens the closer you physically need to get and then you have to consider distortion and falling lines. A tilt shift lens would be way better.
 
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the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
I can think of plenty of good reasons. Shooting indoors or in poor light means being able to shoot with a lower ISO.
With a ultra wide angle lens indoors, what are you shooting indoors that you need this lens to be wide open.
Church, temple, events.... There is a long list.
If you are shooting real estate you want to bump the ISO to get the best DOF so the image is sharp and crisp. Shooting 2.8 will ruin most images if not all and for the shallow DOF trick the wider the lens the closer you physically need to get and then you have to consider distortion and falling lines. A tilt shift lens would be way better.
 
the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
I can think of plenty of good reasons. Shooting indoors or in poor light means being able to shoot with a lower ISO.
With a ultra wide angle lens indoors, what are you shooting indoors that you need this lens to be wide open.
Church, temple, events.... There is a long list.
Three things really, that is a long list? I get more choices for ice cream flavors.

If you are shooting real estate you want to bump the ISO to get the best DOF so the image is sharp and crisp. Shooting 2.8 will ruin most images if not all and for the shallow DOF trick the wider the lens the closer you physically need to get and then you have to consider distortion and falling lines. A tilt shift lens would be way better.
 
the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
I can think of plenty of good reasons. Shooting indoors or in poor light means being able to shoot with a lower ISO.
With a ultra wide angle lens indoors, what are you shooting indoors that you need this lens to be wide open.
Church, temple, events.... There is a long list.
Three things really, that is a long list? I get more choices for ice cream flavors.
I can see you just want to be 'right', so whatever.
If you are shooting real estate you want to bump the ISO to get the best DOF so the image is sharp and crisp. Shooting 2.8 will ruin most images if not all and for the shallow DOF trick the wider the lens the closer you physically need to get and then you have to consider distortion and falling lines. A tilt shift lens would be way better.
 
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the smart move is to review the EXIF in all your photos and see what FL you use most.

If you need wider than 24 mm that is one thing. If not you have GAS and it is not necessary.

To make a purchase worth while you have to be shooting alot and not just the same photos of the same backyard whatever. Most will over buy something only to lose alot of money when they sell it. Scratch a itch you just have to have it.

that or one does not have a grasp of what a FL will do for them.

What kind of photographer are you and how do you relay it and why do you even need F 2.8 in a ultra wide lens anyway ,
I can think of plenty of good reasons. Shooting indoors or in poor light means being able to shoot with a lower ISO.
With a ultra wide angle lens indoors, what are you shooting indoors that you need this lens to be wide open.
Church, temple, events.... There is a long list.
Three things really, that is a long list? I get more choices for ice cream flavors.
I can see you just want to be 'right', so whatever.
If you are shooting real estate you want to bump the ISO to get the best DOF so the image is sharp and crisp. Shooting 2.8 will ruin most images if not all and for the shallow DOF trick the wider the lens the closer you physically need to get and then you have to consider distortion and falling lines. A tilt shift lens would be way better.
Camera focuses better in low light with F2.8 then with F4. You can also see better in low light at F2.8 then F4 through an OVF.
 
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