Why is the 6D Viewfinder and Live View Metering Providing Different Results in LOW Light?

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In a brightly lit scene both the metering in the viewfinder and live view provide the exact same result. However, in low light, the differences are extraordinary.

In the examples below, I compare a 20D and a 6D. The metering system is set to exactly the same thing. All variables are kept as constant as possible. The differences are independent of things like JPG/RAW, stray light (low light so there is little to none), focal length, and mode (M,Tv,Av equivalent). By fixing the ISO and focal length, I'm providing comparisons below in the amount of exposure time to best exemplify the situation.

There are two situations:

Situation #1 - Metering differences between VF and LV

At ISO 1600, a dimly lit subject yields the following on the 6D:

Through the viewfinder metering: 1" (dark, exposed below 1/2 of the histogram)
Through Live View : 3.2" (properly exposed)

Situation #1 - Metering differences in VF varying with Lens and Camera

Conditions: Ambient light/very dim
ISO: 1600
f4.0 set for both lenses. This issue is focal length independent.

Two lenses,
A = Tamron 28-75 f/2.8
B = Canon 24-105 f/4.0

20D lens A (Tamron) = 8" Resulting photo was good
20D lens B (Canon) = 2.5" Resulting photo was good
6D lens A (Tamron) = 2.5" Resulting photo was good
6D lens B (Canon) = 1" Resulting photo was too dim. I manually pushed it to 8" and got about what I obtained in the other three instances.

Thanks,

Paul
 
Question 1 why do you get around 3 stop difference between tamron and canon both at f4?
 
In a brightly lit scene both the metering in the viewfinder and live view provide the exact same result. However, in low light, the differences are extraordinary.

In the examples below, I compare a 20D and a 6D. The metering system is set to exactly the same thing. All variables are kept as constant as possible. The differences are independent of things like JPG/RAW, stray light (low light so there is little to none), focal length, and mode (M,Tv,Av equivalent). By fixing the ISO and focal length, I'm providing comparisons below in the amount of exposure time to best exemplify the situation.

There are two situations:

Situation #1 - Metering differences between VF and LV

At ISO 1600, a dimly lit subject yields the following on the 6D:

Through the viewfinder metering: 1" (dark, exposed below 1/2 of the histogram)
Through Live View : 3.2" (properly exposed)

Situation #1 - Metering differences in VF varying with Lens and Camera

Conditions: Ambient light/very dim
ISO: 1600
f4.0 set for both lenses. This issue is focal length independent.

Two lenses,
A = Tamron 28-75 f/2.8
B = Canon 24-105 f/4.0

20D lens A (Tamron) = 8" Resulting photo was good
20D lens B (Canon) = 2.5" Resulting photo was good
6D lens A (Tamron) = 2.5" Resulting photo was good
6D lens B (Canon) = 1" Resulting photo was too dim. I manually pushed it to 8" and got about what I obtained in the other three instances.

Thanks,

Paul
What is your metering mode and are you metering the same thing in both VF & LV? -- Rick Knepper, photographer, shooting for pleasure. It is better to have It and not need It than need It and not have It. Mystery Gardner: "Rick, you have a passion for photography but not a position. That's a good thing." Various RAW comparisons at Link below. Includes 5D3 vs D800E (new uploads), 5D3 vs. 6D, Zeiss lenses etc. https://app.box.com/s/71w40ita6hrcfghojaie
 
In this case, it was evaluative, but each and every mode of metering is the same.

There are no other variables that would change the result.

Besides, with the lens cap on (and NO stray light)

Viewfinder = 1"

Live = 8"
 
Do you have your eye to the viewfinder when conducting this test? If not, what happens when you cover the viewfinder?
 
No, no, no. Not Bingo, not even close. As my original post stated, that is not a factor.

There are no settings or other variables contributing to the results stated.
 

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