The opinion at the Panasonic forum is disappointment but that's normal. It'll swing back and forth a few times. Personally I don't really care, but as an owner of an X-10, then naturally I'd be rooting for the X30 in this competition. And competition it will be once the X-30 hits the stores. At $300 cheaper and better built than the others, the X30 is a winner. I wouldn't pay $900 for an LX100 when I can buy a decent Sony e-mount for that kind of money.
Interesting, this is not the first time I've heard this. However I never really take pictures one handed, rather left hand under the lens, right hand on the shutter button. Not sure it would be an issue, and price wise, i can get a reconditioned from Olympus when they have their upcoming 25% off Black Friday sale, for $479 CAD.
The idea of the 12-35 for size/weight makes sense, but not the price and its not that much smaller, but it is 25% lighter. I think the build of the 12-40 would compliment the EP5 better though.
LX100 follows on the footsteps of RX100 (especially with MkIII which has 1.8-2.8 lens with same FL range as LX100 does). LX100 also gives up a little sensor size, so gets closer to RX100 in that regard, but without the benefit of BSI technology that the Sony 1" sensor has (Which takes it closer to m43 sensor size in performance). Keep in mind that the sensor in LX100, while being advertised as an m43, is actually 20% smaller than a m43 sensor, and has a 2.2x crop factor relative to FF format (m43 crop factor is 2x).
[/QUOTE]EinsteinsGhost, post: 54522823, member: 669539"]I'm not sure why you thought LX100 was going to break a new ground. It is simply a larger RX100 III with likely similar sensor performance and has the same lens specs. Neither is a solution to thin DOF.
The f/2.8 zoom on m43 won't be either. Or, Sony 16-70/4 on its APS-C sensor. The best bet for DOF control comes at the long end of the zoom where 70mm f/4 can be pretty good choice for a portrait option on APS-C.
For both low light and greater DOF control, consider no shorter than 50mm (equiv) FL, and no slower than f/2. A 35mm f/1.8 is borderline useful for that purpose on APS-C (25/1.4 on m43), a 50mm f/1.8 is very good on APS-C (35-40mm f/1.4 would give similar performance on m43).
This is using Sony Alpha NEX-6 at 70mm f/5.6:
NEX-6, Sigma 70/2.8 (at f/5.6)
If you want a one-lens solution, you may be better off with a RX100III, RX10, FZ1000, G7X, LX100 etc. If you truly do need that fast AF then the FZ1000 with DFD AF is perhaps your best bet--and also takes great video.
I would not say limiting, but it would not be as good as the 12-35mm or 12-40mm F/2.8 lenses.
ya, the more I see out of the LX100, the more I know that is NOT the camera for me. I'm not sure the professional reviews will change that! lol.
Thanks, this is helpful. Low light is more important than DOF for me if I had to consider compromises that will have to be made with a zoom lens. I'm certainly leaning toward keeping the EP5 and getting the Oly 12-40, purchasing a EPL5 and keeping the Oly 40-150 for when that would be convenient.
It is worth noting that M43 is a 4:3 aspect ratio, not 3:2 like everyone else. Many people prefer 3:2.
Steve Huff is a salesman pure and simple. He gets extremely enthusiastic about everything that comes his way. But few take him very seriously.
I have 3 M43 cameras but most prefer the E-PM1. Shoot JPEGS with it. The HDR effects is awesome. There are more wide lens options available and I like using the 14/2.5.
A poorly built camera with not enough affordable options. Meh...
There's room for both for me as each has its advantages in certain user scenarios. If I had to choose, the 12-40 (which I used until I determined its size when added to the OM D E M1 was too reminiscent of lugging a DSLR around, albeit a smaller one). However, image quality is amazing throughout its range. As for the camera, I liked the a6000 plenty and I think the 16-70 would be a great match and help it resolve the available information captured. Having said al lthis, the Sony I would take over the Pen(and avoid the dreaded shutter shock issue that lingers even with firmware fixes) with the 12-40...though it's a shame that Sony doesn't have a lens quite as strong is the Olympus 12-40 2.8 that could be had for $700-$800 when purchased as part of a kit during sale events. I should add, the EP5 with the 12-40 would be quite unbalanced, bringing ease and enjoyment of use into question.
Very fair comments, thank you. I am somewhat worried about the balance of the EP5 and 12-40, I'd have to handle it to know. As far as Shutter Shock, I have only experienced it once since the firmware update, so for me thats a non issue.
It sounds to me like you're pixel peeping, but not at the same resolution. A lot of people make this error with the 24mp sensors. Comparing at 100% is not level ground if one photo is 16mp and the other is 24mp.
Actually the kit lens for the A7 is the Sony FE 28-70 OSS and generally it has been 'liked' by many more owners, and is available on eBay for as low as $250, used. Funny thing is that lens is magnificent on the NEX/A6000 cameras.
Shutter Shock is never a problem for most PEN owners; we simply put a 1/8 second shutter delay into the menu and just leave it there.
