MarsObserver
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That's odd - I've found the AF on the A6K to be pretty good. Of course it depends on the lens, light, and scene.
What lens and (focus) settings are you using Dstillo?
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Nikon D750 vs A7 : help!
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What lens and (focus) settings are you using Dstillo?
MarsObserver
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I often think of the cameras that way too:
Shooting Primes: A7 / Shooting AF Zooms: D700
and, as mentioned, the other way I think of them is:
Natural Light: A7 / Flash Photography D700
Long trips with lots of walking or hiking: A7 / shorter outings or events: D700
I'm in a different situation, but with some similarities - having both the A7 and D700 it's always a quandary deciding which lens line-up to invest in.
Again - good luck with a very difficult decision!
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As has been said over and over, there is no 'better camera' when comparing two wildly different systems like the D750 vs. A7. Either you need the SLR configuration form and function (for any number of reasons) or you don't.
If you do, obviously the D750 will be better for you than mirrorless. If you don't, and depending on a myriad of other factors, the A7 may well be the better choice.
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I think the A7s is a specialist camera.......more for video and REALLY low light.
Most weddings have some low light component but not at the level that the A7s AF is better.
In the "normal" wedding range the Nikon would be far better , actually I think the middle A7 would be better (than the a7s) too though still think the Nikon would suit you more.....unless you take your time and are not rushed.....great for nice old manual focus lenses.
The A7s would be a tremendous back up body for a wedding.
There are things favouring most cameras.......A7 AF is fine (to EV0) and flexible spot AF is very nice (could be handy for a wedding group shot with focus on a particular person or two).
I would be happy shooting a wedding with an A7 (I have done a few with much lesser cameras in the past as Friend/uncle ETC with camera type).
For paid wedding stuff I would go with Nikon or Canon .......there will be plenty using A7/A7s/A7R and lots of others though.
Enjoy whatever you decide.
Hans vdC
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thank you all for the nice comments and tips, very unbiased opinions here which is great to see/read. first wedding is in a couple montsh (march) so I am not in a rush.
Mr. "eeper" is correct here.
I was thinking more as a friend acting as a second photographer in a wedding.
But if you have the responsibility for a wedding, yes, it's true that you need a second camera.
100% to have a backup
70% to use it concurrently at a different field of view (mm of lens) and have variety in your photos.
But in that case it's not only the camera that you need to backup, lights, batteries and even storage (double SD cards) are essential.
P.S. think about lighting where the wedding is taking place.
If you are going to use flashes, maybe the Nikon is better due to variety of compatible third party lighting equipment.
If you are only going with available light, then you need to consider a7s seriously. (the "s" model, not the others).
Ah, I wasn't thinking about that. In that case, both would be great, but since they already have an a6000 I would go after the a7s.
MarsObserver
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I think I set it correctly. It was a while back now - after a lot of attempts I gave up!
From memory I tried a number of different settings. Even tried the sports mode.
My issue was not that the a6000 didn't focus on something - it did - but it was always something else other than what I was aiming at!
Either the floor just in front - or a more higher contrast subject.
As I say in the end I abandoned the a6000 for action shots.
However my Nikon D750 arrived Saturday and I tested it out with the same subject ( my dog ) and in the same places. If anything now its winter the light was less and a more challenging situation for the camera.
I'm pleased to say I finally got the shots of my dog running and splashing like a nutter through streams! The Nikon D750 seems to really nail the shot and focus on the right thing.
Still had a few miss shots - but my success rate was probably 50% and this was a with a brand new camera I'm not at all familiar with.
With a bit of practice I'm sure I can get up to a 75% success rate.
Having said that is others are getting good success with the a6000 and small brown dogs running at speed that it does suggest its my incompetence - maybe the Nikon D750 is just easier to use.
From memory I tried a number of different settings. Even tried the sports mode.
My issue was not that the a6000 didn't focus on something - it did - but it was always something else other than what I was aiming at!
Either the floor just in front - or a more higher contrast subject.
As I say in the end I abandoned the a6000 for action shots.
However my Nikon D750 arrived Saturday and I tested it out with the same subject ( my dog ) and in the same places. If anything now its winter the light was less and a more challenging situation for the camera.
I'm pleased to say I finally got the shots of my dog running and splashing like a nutter through streams! The Nikon D750 seems to really nail the shot and focus on the right thing.
Still had a few miss shots - but my success rate was probably 50% and this was a with a brand new camera I'm not at all familiar with.
With a bit of practice I'm sure I can get up to a 75% success rate.
Having said that is others are getting good success with the a6000 and small brown dogs running at speed that it does suggest its my incompetence - maybe the Nikon D750 is just easier to use.
Below is the short of shot that was very easy on the D750 but I found virtually impossible on the Sony a6000:
Nikon D750 - ISO 1800 - f8 1/1000 second - 240mm
I'm sure a better photographer than me could do this on a Sony a6000 but the whole reason I bought the a6000 was to make this sort of shot easy!
Nikon D750 - ISO 1800 - f8 1/1000 second - 240mm
I'm sure a better photographer than me could do this on a Sony a6000 but the whole reason I bought the a6000 was to make this sort of shot easy!
Focus Breather
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Are you sure your dog is running?Below is the short of shot that was very easy on the D750 but I found virtually impossible on the Sony a6000:
Nikon D750 - ISO 1800 - f8 1/1000 second - 240mm
I'm sure a better photographer than me could do this on a Sony a6000 but the whole reason I bought the a6000 was to make this sort of shot easy!
Looks like flying to me
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Mark K
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Unless your place is out of D800, then a D800 at current street price less than that of a D750 will be a better choice.
Flash, 24-120G f4, and....a Sigma 50/1.4
A7, which I had for a short while, is a good general purpose camera when AF speed and accuracy is not required. Definitely A7 is not for wedding.
Pat Whittingham
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I wish I had the time and patience to read all the earlier posts. But I am expressing my opinion briefly to give you a longer-term view. If you have and love the Sony A6000 (which I do) the decision to buy any full-frame camera has the potential to disappoint but with the real opportunity to add enough creative gain to risk it.
That said, I decided on a longer-term strategy to buy the best glass for e-mount (inclusive of FE) in the belief that like legacy Leica lenses, they will outlive the bodies. IMHO mirrorless systems have sustainable advantage over dslr designs. I have given up my Nikon D700/D800 for a Sony A7S and A7R. I have replaced my heavy f2.8 zooms with Sony-Zeiss f4 zooms and primes. I have ordered the LOXIA 50mm and 35mm lenses as well as the FE1635f4 Z.
Many complain about the limited range and cost of the better Sony e-mount glass but if you can take a long-term perspective, you may conclude as I did that Sony is a better long term investment. And I love the interchangeability of lenses, batteries, flashes between the A6000 and the A7S/7R and the commonality of the menu system makes moving amongst these so much easier.
And by the way, I have no difficulty producing gratifying images for events such as weddings with all these cameras. You need multiple cameras for these shoots and having the extended range of features makes for a very flexible approach.
Finally, I think the A6000/1670Z is the best multi-purpose photographic I have ever used; miles ahead of my NEX-7… making my point that bodies come and go.
That said, I decided on a longer-term strategy to buy the best glass for e-mount (inclusive of FE) in the belief that like legacy Leica lenses, they will outlive the bodies. IMHO mirrorless systems have sustainable advantage over dslr designs. I have given up my Nikon D700/D800 for a Sony A7S and A7R. I have replaced my heavy f2.8 zooms with Sony-Zeiss f4 zooms and primes. I have ordered the LOXIA 50mm and 35mm lenses as well as the FE1635f4 Z.
Many complain about the limited range and cost of the better Sony e-mount glass but if you can take a long-term perspective, you may conclude as I did that Sony is a better long term investment. And I love the interchangeability of lenses, batteries, flashes between the A6000 and the A7S/7R and the commonality of the menu system makes moving amongst these so much easier.
And by the way, I have no difficulty producing gratifying images for events such as weddings with all these cameras. You need multiple cameras for these shoots and having the extended range of features makes for a very flexible approach.
Finally, I think the A6000/1670Z is the best multi-purpose photographic I have ever used; miles ahead of my NEX-7… making my point that bodies come and go.
For the price of your A7 option, you can have your Nikon d750 with its kit lens, the 50mm 1.4g, and still add the Nikon 85mm 1.8g if you like portraits, and let's say the 35 1.8g, which should work perfectly. Hell, you could even get a used 5d MkIII and the excellent 24-70 f 2.8 for almost the same price as your A7 option ! Seriously, if bulkiness is not a serious issue, that's a no-brainer, except if you're seriously into the A7, which seems quite obvious, since you ask the question.
Anyway, whatever choice you make, I wish I could be in your shoes. Great cameras and great lenses !
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Anyway, whatever choice you make, I wish I could be in your shoes. Great cameras and great lenses !
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José B
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Personally I think your ex-5DMKIII (+L lens(es) is the better all-around choice.
Good luck with whatever decision you make.
Cheers,
José
Below is the short of shot that was very easy on the D750 but I found virtually impossible on the Sony a6000:
Nikon D750 - ISO 1800 - f8 1/1000 second - 240mm
I'm sure a better photographer than me could do this on a Sony a6000 but the whole reason I bought the a6000 was to make this sort of shot easy!
Exactly what I was talking about!!!
100% the same problem I am talking about!
My dog is of similar structure with the same way of running (flying). I managed to have sharp photos with the humble Nikon d5100 and I cannot with my Sony a6000's AF.
And I was trying closer photos. So that my dog is almost filling the frame.
I will try again but with only one point of focus and AF-S.
Maybe the traditional way is better and maybe the a6000 can actually do something.
But the well advertized AF-C cannot deliver. period.
I think single point focus would work fine with the a6000 - its AF is certainly fast enough. But you need to track yourself - no predictive tracking for multiple shots.
I think the original reason for my disappointment was the massive hype by Sony before and after initial launch of the a6000. It made it seem like you could pull out your camera - point and shot multiple shots of a high speed object coming towards you.
In reality as you say it just doesn't work as well as it the hype suggested.
Also interestingly the Nikon face detection works with dogs! I took a few portrait shots of my dog and left the D750 to figure out what to focus on - and it focussed perfectly on the dogs eyes.
In comparison I found the Sony a6000 seemed to not really even notice my dog let alone detect its face- too small and brown I guess!
Having said that the a6000 is a great camera and away from shooting moving objects I was quite happy with it.
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