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Corpy2
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You're kind of an emotional feller, aren't you? I figured, given the rambling post I was responding to.
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Why do you shoot Jpeg?
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007peter
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No need to tap into my super-natural power ;-) A simple peek into your profile will do.
Like Ken Rockwell says. Those who speak loudest on the NET don't take photograph. I put his theory to the test and I must admit he is right.
- I see no photograph that demonstrate why RAW is a must.
- I see no photograph [period]
- Do you even take photograph?
- Or are you just a loud mouth Forum Hack to talks about photography rather than take photograph?
Online Expert: Level 0 (these guys don't take pictures so they aren't a level of photographer.)
These people are easy to identify. If you've read this far you've probably seen their websites. They always have lots of info about equipment, but very few real photographs. Beware of any information from any website not loaded with photography you admire.
carl english
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antoineb
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Hi Lanidrac,
why I mostly only shoot JPEG:
- quicker. I don't need to PP. Time is precious, it's our most limited resource. I find that I have gained enough experience with my DSLR, that I know which pre-sets will work best in most circumstances. And for WB again it's easy to do a pre-set if the light is just too difficult.
- uses up (much) less storage space. I know storage is cheap and all, but all else being equal I still can store more photos anywhere. And viewing and uploading and all is way faster w 3-4MB files than much larger files.
- oh, and continuous shooting is faster and lasts longer
Any adverse consequences?
- sure, perhaps on a few shots every several thousand, I wish I had a RAW shot from which to extract the very best. But mind you, none of these would make any real difference, as I am not a pro. Now if I were a pro shooting, say, a wedding, then obviously I'd go RAW because I wouldn't have the option to fail. But I'm not a pro, so... Even where I might photograph a community event, frankly no one cares if, say, the photos at a Parish dinner were slightly too yellowish.
why I mostly only shoot JPEG:
- quicker. I don't need to PP. Time is precious, it's our most limited resource. I find that I have gained enough experience with my DSLR, that I know which pre-sets will work best in most circumstances. And for WB again it's easy to do a pre-set if the light is just too difficult.
- uses up (much) less storage space. I know storage is cheap and all, but all else being equal I still can store more photos anywhere. And viewing and uploading and all is way faster w 3-4MB files than much larger files.
- oh, and continuous shooting is faster and lasts longer
Any adverse consequences?
- sure, perhaps on a few shots every several thousand, I wish I had a RAW shot from which to extract the very best. But mind you, none of these would make any real difference, as I am not a pro. Now if I were a pro shooting, say, a wedding, then obviously I'd go RAW because I wouldn't have the option to fail. But I'm not a pro, so... Even where I might photograph a community event, frankly no one cares if, say, the photos at a Parish dinner were slightly too yellowish.
Gerry Winterbourne
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This thread http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/54427250 and many others explain why many people don't post photos on DPR. Certainly there are some good photographers who do post here but as a very broad generalisation people who are more experienced and/or professional regard the DPR system as inferior and use something different.
Your questions above do no more than demonstrate your own ignorance of how the world of photo publication and/or sharing works.
carl english
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Lightpath48
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- Because I can.
- Because I can and still post process most images that need it.
- Just to annoy the evangelists.
- Just to annoy another set of evangelists I shoot raw at times when I feel the need.
- Sometimes I use the phone or a compact or bridge camera that only shoots jpeg.
:-O Well, just maybe it is more like rocket science to some than to others.
Reading DPR for some time now, I've reached the conclusion that for some people, high school science is like rocket science
gandalfII
Senior Member
Because I shot Kodachrome and printed on Cibachrome for decades and learned to get it right (for my tastes) within the very narrow limits of that process. Just about anything that can't be done to a properly captured JPEG is overcooking AFAIAC.
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Lightpath48
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You prefer to work with 8 bits of data over 12, 14 or 16? Okay, I guess. The greater bit depth can be rewarding to work with, too. Kudos on your Kodachrome/Cibachrome expertise. That wasn't an easy thing to accomplish.
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I shoot JPG because this guy shoots RAW
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Lightpath48
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Speaking of film/emulsion and paper emulations with digital, since most of the quality programs can work with 16 bit TIFFs in emulating any of dozens of film and printing processes, I don't understand rationale to work with 8bit jpegs in doing these conversions? Not sure how many cameras offer a kodachrome color mode for OOC jpegs.
datiswous
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I shoot mostly Jpg + Raw. Then I use the Jpg if I don't have to change Whitebalance or fix CA. Exposure compensation usually doesn't give better results.
I think Raw shooting is mostly for when you:
I think Raw shooting is mostly for when you:
- don't like/trust the camera's standard output of jpg
- want more control over the output
- often have to fix something
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yardcoyote
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You may very well be right-- I have never shot in RAW so I have no experience. So if any newbies are reading this, I am just talking about the way I work and my own reasons for doing it, not suggesting that any of the ideas in the above post are some kind of absolute truth.
Note that I never liked the darkroom when I worked in film either. I just sent my exposed rolls out to be processed to a lab I trusted and took what I got. Getting it right in the camera is the only option when you work that way, and what I am trying to do in digital is reproduce that experience as closely as possible. Working in JPEG gives me that without an extra step while reducing, though not eliminating, the options of messing around with it later to fix it.
Of course, what I'm discovering with the GIMP is that there are a lot of terrible and amazing things you can do to a JPEG ... And don't get me started about the JPEG editing suite in my phone. That thing is too much fun.
Note that I never liked the darkroom when I worked in film either. I just sent my exposed rolls out to be processed to a lab I trusted and took what I got. Getting it right in the camera is the only option when you work that way, and what I am trying to do in digital is reproduce that experience as closely as possible. Working in JPEG gives me that without an extra step while reducing, though not eliminating, the options of messing around with it later to fix it.
Of course, what I'm discovering with the GIMP is that there are a lot of terrible and amazing things you can do to a JPEG ... And don't get me started about the JPEG editing suite in my phone. That thing is too much fun.
Joris1632
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What is Jpeg?
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