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I read the translation of one of those Photokina interviews with some Fuji officials and there is a lot of talk about the graphite T1 (having 120 or so improvements over previous models??) and when I followed a link to another Japanese website I found some details about the X-Pro2 (not ready yet for delivery still working on AF etc) and some details about firmware upgrades for the X-Pro1, X-E1 and X-E2 around December last year - but then there is zip, nada etc about any plans for an E-style replacement.

Since I am not following Fuji rumours of any kind much, but would still be very interested in following that line of body shape, has anybody heard about the line being 1. dropped or 2. being improved and worked on?

Graphite Edition with 1/32000sec (possible through firmware, but who knows...) and maybe extended RAW to 25600 plus 1/250sec mechanical (The Nikon D70 had 1/500sec flash synch with electronic shutter possible, some on this forum might remember that this was fabulous for fill!). Apart from that, nothing really bothers me much about the E2 at this stage, I am just one of those odd-balls that simply likes the E2 shape better than this oly-A7-lookalike-mock-dslr shape with Fujifilm on the viewfinder front - how original is that anyway??

Wouldn't even need more pixel, but a compressed RAW, if possible, would be great. Took my MAC Air to China a couple of weeks ago and found that I had to off-load images to an external HDD because of the sheer file size of the Fuji files. My D800 files are around 36-39 MB @ 36 Mpx, my 5DMKII files are between 21 and 24 MB @ 21 Mpx whereas the Fuji files are around 35 MB @ 16 Mpx as you will know. I am aware that storage is cheap theses days, but still is a factor regarding backup either to some cloud or a second or third HDD. Room for improvement, of course not only for an E-X follow up.

Cheers

Deed
 
deednets said:
I read the translation of one of those Photokina interviews with some Fuji officials and there is a lot of talk about the graphite T1 (having 120 or so improvements over previous models??) and when I followed a link to another Japanese website I found some details about the X-Pro2 (not ready yet for delivery still working on AF etc) and some details about firmware upgrades for the X-Pro1, X-E1 and X-E2 around December last year - but then there is zip, nada etc about any plans for an E-style replacement.

Since I am not following Fuji rumours of any kind much, but would still be very interested in following that line of body shape, has anybody heard about the line being 1. dropped or 2. being improved and worked on?

Graphite Edition with 1/32000sec (possible through firmware, but who knows...) and maybe extended RAW to 25600 plus 1/250sec mechanical (The Nikon D70 had 1/500sec flash synch with electronic shutter possible, some on this forum might remember that this was fabulous for fill!). Apart from that, nothing really bothers me much about the E2 at this stage, I am just one of those odd-balls that simply likes the E2 shape better than this oly-A7-lookalike-mock-dslr shape with Fujifilm on the viewfinder front - how original is that anyway??

Wouldn't even need more pixel, but a compressed RAW, if possible, would be great. Took my MAC Air to China a couple of weeks ago and found that I had to off-load images to an external HDD because of the sheer file size of the Fuji files. My D800 files are around 36-39 MB @ 36 Mpx, my 5DMKII files are between 21 and 24 MB @ 21 Mpx whereas the Fuji files are around 35 MB @ 16 Mpx as you will know. I am aware that storage is cheap theses days, but still is a factor regarding backup either to some cloud or a second or third HDD. Room for improvement, of course not only for an E-X follow up.

Cheers

Deed
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The xpro2 will be rangefinder styled. -- http://www.pbase.com/meagre_offerings/street_photography `im a simple man, i use simple tools, and i shoot what i see` L S Lowry (but bastardised by me).
 
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meagre offerings said:
I read the translation of one of those Photokina interviews with some Fuji officials and there is a lot of talk about the graphite T1 (having 120 or so improvements over previous models??) and when I followed a link to another Japanese website I found some details about the X-Pro2 (not ready yet for delivery still working on AF etc) and some details about firmware upgrades for the X-Pro1, X-E1 and X-E2 around December last year - but then there is zip, nada etc about any plans for an E-style replacement.

Since I am not following Fuji rumours of any kind much, but would still be very interested in following that line of body shape, has anybody heard about the line being 1. dropped or 2. being improved and worked on?

Graphite Edition with 1/32000sec (possible through firmware, but who knows...) and maybe extended RAW to 25600 plus 1/250sec mechanical (The Nikon D70 had 1/500sec flash synch with electronic shutter possible, some on this forum might remember that this was fabulous for fill!). Apart from that, nothing really bothers me much about the E2 at this stage, I am just one of those odd-balls that simply likes the E2 shape better than this oly-A7-lookalike-mock-dslr shape with Fujifilm on the viewfinder front - how original is that anyway??

Wouldn't even need more pixel, but a compressed RAW, if possible, would be great. Took my MAC Air to China a couple of weeks ago and found that I had to off-load images to an external HDD because of the sheer file size of the Fuji files. My D800 files are around 36-39 MB @ 36 Mpx, my 5DMKII files are between 21 and 24 MB @ 21 Mpx whereas the Fuji files are around 35 MB @ 16 Mpx as you will know. I am aware that storage is cheap theses days, but still is a factor regarding backup either to some cloud or a second or third HDD. Room for improvement, of course not only for an E-X follow up.

Cheers

Deed
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The xpro2 will be rangefinder styled. -- http://www.pbase.com/meagre_offerings/street_photography `im a simple man, i use simple tools, and i shoot what i see` L S Lowry (but bastardised by me).
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Because I need diopter adjustments, the E2 works really well for me! And apart from the the Pro2 still is pie in the sky at this stage. I know I can buy diopter lenses, but I'd rather not ...

Deed
 
deednets said:
Because I need diopter adjustments, the E2 works really well for me!

Deed
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I prefer the X-Pro because once you install the corrected diopter it never gets bumped out of adjustment. How does an adjustable diopter work better for you than a corrected diopter? Are you saying that you use different diopter settings at different times and need to be able to quickly change this setting?
 
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Randy Benter said:
deednets said:
Because I need diopter adjustments, the E2 works really well for me!

Deed
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I prefer the X-Pro because once you install the corrected diopter it never gets bumped out of adjustment. How does an adjustable diopter work better for you than a corrected diopter? Are you saying that you use different diopter settings at different times and need to be able to quickly change this setting?
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I love my X-E2 and I haven't had any problem with the diopter adjustment getting bumped. On the other hand when I had my X-Pro1 I first struggled to figure out what diopter lens I needed and after I got one I ended up buying two more because they seem to magically unscrew themselves and get lost. Maybe gremlins.

Prefer the range finder style over the X-T1 (which I own as well). The X-T1 is nice if you plan to buy the new larger lenses like the XF 50-140mm f/2.8 or the 150-400 that will be coming out. For these lenses putting the grip on the X-T1 works well IMO.
 
It makes sense that an XE3 will follow the PRO2, incorporating much of that technology, like when the XE1 was introduced. It's a logical speculation.

Arguably the XE1 was the beta version of the XE2 which was a consumer version of the Pro 1.
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Randy Benter said:
deednets said:
Because I need diopter adjustments, the E2 works really well for me!

Deed
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I prefer the X-Pro because once you install the corrected diopter it never gets bumped out of adjustment. How does an adjustable diopter work better for you than a corrected diopter? Are you saying that you use different diopter settings at different times and need to be able to quickly change this setting?
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Nope but noticed that my eyesight has changed over the last couple of years so buying more than one would not be so cool.

I just like the E2 and the form factor.

Deed
 
MrChristopher said:
It makes sense that an XE3 will follow the PRO2, incorporating much of that technology, like when the XE1 was introduced. It's a logical speculation.

Arguably the XE1 was the beta version of the XE2 which was a consumer version of the Pro 1.
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Semantics alright! Pro because of what? OVF? I personally couldn't care less about your distinction re consumer (as in P&S?) and Pro, I am too old to get sucked into this argument. I like the E2 and use primes only, so consumer I am!

You haven't mentioned the E3, any opinion on that one?

Deed
 
I honestly hope not as well. I was really wanting to buy an XT-1for the performance but after trying it out I couldn't do it. Putting the viewfinder in the middle is just dumb. It's there on SLRs because it has to be, but having to mash my nose into the screen for no reason is supremely annoying.
 
Can only conclude that there is either no interest in Fuji except the Pro2 and T1 here on this forum or there simply isn't anything in the pipeline this way or the other.

Sobering!

Thanks to those who have replied!

Deed
 
You don't follow rumors and yet you seem to be asking for rumors.

The E-2 is less than a year old. Are you expecting a new camera every 6 months - a year - or every two years ? Surely there must be a basis for why you ask if the rangefinder has fallen through.

You seem to ignore the explanation that somebody offered in the sequence of cameras Fuji offered in the past - the suggestion that an E-3 may follow the PRO-2 that is supposed to come out next year. Your response of no interest in the PRO 2 makes no sense since the PRO 2 is possibly to be followed by the E-3. The E-3 would incorporate some of what the PRO 2 will offer.

Just what exactly are you asking here ?
 
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You don't follow rumors and yet you seem to be asking for rumors.

The E-2 is less than a year old. Are you expecting a new camera every 6 months - a year - or every two years ? Surely there must be a basis for why you ask if the rangefinder has fallen through.

You seem to ignore the explanation that somebody offered in the sequence of cameras Fuji offered in the past - the suggestion that an E-3 may follow the PRO-2 that is supposed to come out next year. Your response of no interest in the PRO 2 makes no sense since the PRO 2 is possibly to be followed by the E-3. The E-3 would incorporate some of what the PRO 2 will offer.

Just what exactly are you asking here ?
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Let it be said there are no rumors of an XE3. There are no rumors of the XE line possible demise either. The only reasonable conclusion to gain from these facts is the xE3 rumor mill is running on empty.
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Let it be said there are no rumors of an XE3. There are no rumors of the XE line possible demise either. The only reasonable conclusion to gain from these facts are the xE3 rumor mill is running on empty.
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Thanks for that! Sobering though since I quite like the X-E series!

Deed
 
I have the XE1 and I'm waiting to see what the Pro2 looks like and also an XE3. I think it will be a while before we see rumors of an XE3, based on Fuji history. By all indications the XE line has been successful for them, so I don't see any reason to speculate an end of life anytime soon. It's the most affordable replaceable lens system and will likely always have that distinction.

But again, if you want to know what the XE3 will look like keep an eye on the Pro 2 rumors. Some of that will be incorporated in the XE3 (says my money).

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MrChristopher said:
I have the XE1 and I'm waiting to see what the Pro2 looks like and also an XE3. I think it will be a while before we see rumors of an XE3, based on Fuji history. By all indications the XE line has been successful for them, so I don't see any reason to speculate an end of life anytime soon. It's the most affordable replaceable lens system and will likely always have that distinction.

But again, if you want to know what the XE3 will look like keep an eye on the Pro 2 rumors. Some of that will be incorporated in the XE3 (says my money).

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Sure, but I read an interview in Japanese on future lines and there was an indication that some DSLR sales were down by 28% and mirrorless down by "only" 18% so Fuji would have to look into marketability/profitablility etc. Didn't follow up on the source of these figures but it was clear throughout that interview that profitability is the company's main concern. Since the E-series incorporate a lot of what the T series has on board, this might mean that the E-line might have to be ditched since those 700 or so grams are better invested in the T-series, since the value added might be of a higher percentage.

Just playing with some possibilities since all those who have an E-series camera and some glass would have to either buy into the Pro2 or the T-series to keep their glass alive.

Just saying ... there might me some indications that the T-series being more profitable, there might be a clone of that one (meaning: only DSLR style bodies from now on) rather than an extension of the highly complex Pro series (because of the OVF) or the cheaper E-series.

I remember all those D400 rumours, facts, wants and wishes that in the end never materialized. But then Canon made a 7D MKII ...

Deed
 
I just don't see any rational reason to your perspective. You don't discontinue a model that sells well, you discontinue one that become a dud. And not every XE owner wants to go the T1 or Pro1/2 route.

If I'm Fuji I'm going to milk the XE line as long as I can sell them. But it's conceivable that one day we'll all be "that guy was right, they discontinued the XE line!" I'm just not going to wager any money on that :-)
 
Randy Benter said:
deednets said:
Because I need diopter adjustments, the E2 works really well for me!

Deed
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I prefer the X-Pro because once you install the corrected diopter it never gets bumped out of adjustment. How does an adjustable diopter work better for you than a corrected diopter? Are you saying that you use different diopter settings at different times and need to be able to quickly change this setting?
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Yes,with glasses and without. My adjustment on the T1 is marked as to which is which. Simple, has never moved.
 
I guess I don't understand this thread. The X-Pro1 is rangerfinder styled, and the rumor mill speaks of the X-Pro2, which presumably will also be rangefinder styled. Whether or not the rumors are true and whether the X-Pro2 will come to fruition is another story. Anyway, the X-Pro line is probably rangefinder styled.

Perhaps you meant for this thread to be titled, "What happened to the successor to the XE2"?
 
MrChristopher said:
I just don't see any rational reason to your perspective. You don't discontinue a model that sells well, you discontinue one that become a dud. And not every XE owner wants to go the T1 or Pro1/2 route.

If I'm Fuji I'm going to milk the XE line as long as I can sell them. But it's conceivable that one day we'll all be "that guy was right, they discontinued the XE line!" I'm just not going to wager any money on that :-)
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