David Waterman
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Horse whip Microsoft for producing a crappy browser that allows JS to create new windows by default (can you even disable them - you could last I tried).
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Did Mishkin just say Goodbye?
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Mishkin™
Leading Member
in Temporary Internet Files, I found these files from http://www.albinoblacksheep.com: you.htm, you.js and youare.swf.
The last one is just a usual "You are an idiot" Flash animation we saw many times in this forum.
you.htm calls functions from you.js on load:
The last one is just a usual "You are an idiot" Flash animation we saw many times in this forum.
you.htm calls functions from you.js on load:
HTML:
[head]
[title]You are an idiot![ [I] title]
[script language="Javascript" src=".. [/I] script/you.js"][ [I] script]
[ [/I] head]
[body bgColor=#ffffff onload="flagRun=1;
playBall();return true;bookmark();"
onKeyDown="altf4key();ctrlkey();delkey();"
onUnLoad="procreate()" leftmargin="0" topmargin="0" marginwidth="0" marginheight="0"]
[object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase=" [URL='http://download.macromedia.com/'] http://download.macromedia.com/ [/URL]
pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=5,0,0,0" width="100%" height="100%"]
[param name=movie value="youare.swf"]
[param name=quality value=high]
[embed src="youare.swf" quality=high pluginspage=" [URL='http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?'] http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi? [/URL]
P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="100%" height="100%"]
[ [I] embed]
[ [/I] object]
[ [I] body]
[ [/I] html]
procreate() function creates 6 new copies of the window when you try to close it.
you.js:
function bookmark() {
if ((navigator.appName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer")
&& (parseInt(navigator.appVersion) > = 4))
{
var url=" [URL='http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/'] http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/ [/URL] ;
var title="Idiot!";
window.external.AddFavorite(url,title);
}
}
function altf4key() { if (event.keyCode == 18 event.keyCode == 115)
alert("You are an idiot!"); }
function ctrlkey() { if (event.keyCode == 17) alert("You are an idiot!"); }
function delkey() { if (event.keyCode == 46) alert("You are an idiot!"); }
var xOff = 5;
var yOff = 5;
var xPos = 400;
var yPos = -100;
var flagRun = 1;
function openWindow(url){
aWindow = window.open(url," [U] blank", 'menubar=no,status=no,toolbar=noresizable=no,
width=180,height=175,titlebar=no,alwaysRaised=yes');
} [/U]
function procreate(){
openWindow('open.html');
openWindow('open.html');
openWindow('open.html');
openWindow('open.html');
openWindow('open.html');
openWindow('open.html');
}
function newXlt(){
xOff = Math.ceil( 0 - 6 * Math.random()) * 5 - 10 ;
window.focus()}
function newXrt(){
xOff = Math.ceil(7 * Math.random()) * 5 - 10 ;
}
function newYup(){
yOff = Math.ceil( 0 - 6 * Math.random()) * 5 - 10 ;
}
function newYdn(){
yOff = Math.ceil( 7 * Math.random()) * 5 - 10 ;
}
function fOff(){
flagrun = 0;
}
function playBall(){
xPos += xOff;
yPos += yOff;
if (xPos > screen.width-175){
newXlt();
}
if (xPos
newXrt();
}
if (yPos > screen.height-100){
newYup();
}
if (yPos
newYdn();
}
if (flagRun == 1){
window.moveTo(xPos,yPos);
setTimeout('playBall()',1);
}
}
The function playBall() calls itself each 1 millisecond, moving windows on your screen.
Generally speaking, this is the same type of script used for usual "hard to kill" windows (e.g. porn sites), except that it moves fast and multiplies 6x each time.
I don't know why on MY computer it only creates 5 windows and can easily be killed via Task Manager. I guess, I need to download Windows Update to correct this :)
Again, I'm sorry.
MishkinWhen the pop-ups start spawning press ALT and F4 and hold it. If you press it once then the front most window will close. If you hold it, it will run thru all of the open IE windows. This always works for me.
Somebody else had that problem, too.
Yes, somebody complained. He admitted to it in another thread.
The URL did need to be removed, IMO. But not Mishkin.
But, we still don't know his fate.
--I didn't even have to reboot. CTL/ALT/DEL (three finger salute)
kill internet explorer and all was fine.
I actually thought it was hilarious.... I'll bet some whinner
complained the he had set a virus loose on the forum.
The only bad thing was that I had my speakers turned up.... it was
like panic city to get IE6 shut down....LOL
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Photography -- just another word for compromise
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Rune Moberg
Senior Member
Do you want to know what happened when I clicked on that link?Well, I don't really call myself a whiner, but I do take exception
to people fecking with my machine, especially in what should be a
"trusted" environment. I explain my reasons for complaining here:
Answer: Nothing what so ever. A blank page.
Why? Well, after all those ad popups started annoying me I simply disabled Active Scripting (JavaScript/VBScript/etc), Active-X, Java and all other miscreants which really has nothing to do with web at all. Who really needs JavaScript to present information on a webpage? (well, some of my webpages do, but that's a different story)
What remains is to carefully add trusted sites to IE's "Trusted sites" list. dpreview.com goes there. My bank connection is listed. Canon's site of course and quite many others. The funny URL mishkin posted is not listed (for now -- curiosity may get the better of me eventually).
And I did this by installing no additional software. I merely tweaked IE to more reasonable settings. Yes, at first it's a drag adding sites to the trusted list, but it also means I can be pretty darn careless when clicking all them there links.
--
Rune, http://runesbike.com/
John Davis
Senior Member
If he did that, I think the penalty should be more than being banned from this site. That sort of thing is illegal and violates federal law. Some of us know how to deal with that sort of popup intrusion, but many do not and those popus may lurk there and ruin people's machines and networks.A link he provided was one of those "ever-multiplying links" that
uses Java-script (or something) to keep creating new windows
automatically.
It shouldn't cause any permanent harm. But it was difficult on my
machine to stop the process, and I had to reboot. I didn't lose
any data, but it's certainly possible that somebody who paniced and
hadn't saved data in spreadsheets, etc. could've lost some work.
John
--I have missed this, how could he be messing up peoples machines?
The Lowest Paid Concert Photographer Around
http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Yes, this is ON-TOPIC!
Mishkin™
Leading Member
the JavaScript (see my post below) has an altf4key() function which will pop up a message "You are an idiot!" when you press Alt + F4.
Somebody else had that problem, too.
Yes, somebody complained. He admitted to it in another thread.
The URL did need to be removed, IMO. But not Mishkin.
But, we still don't know his fate.
--I didn't even have to reboot. CTL/ALT/DEL (three finger salute)
kill internet explorer and all was fine.
I actually thought it was hilarious.... I'll bet some whinner
complained the he had set a virus loose on the forum.
The only bad thing was that I had my speakers turned up.... it was
like panic city to get IE6 shut down....LOL
The Lowest Paid Concert Photographer Around
http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Yes, this is ON-TOPIC!
James Karuppiah
Active member
I use Mozilla Firebird. You can download it from http://www.mozilla.org . It is only a browser (no email, newsgroup) and is fast. No installation. Just unzip and run.
Best of all: Zero pop ups. Also no cookies, no images, no animation without your permission. Web pages never looked so clean and distraction-free.
JimmyK
Best of all: Zero pop ups. Also no cookies, no images, no animation without your permission. Web pages never looked so clean and distraction-free.
JimmyK
Or don't use IE to start with! Use a browser which allows you to
disable new js windows, like Safari or Mozilla (there are plenty of
others).
Max.
Spencer47022
Forum Enthusiast
Yes self replicating pop-ups are bad. And they spread bad Karma. They will not however; ruin anyones machine or crash a network.
Think about it. The pop is another browser window. That window only resides on your machine. The worst that could happen is you would walk away and eventually you would run out of virtual memory. A reboot would resolve this.
The bad thing about virtual pop ups is that if a person is forced to reboot they could lose data.
It won't ruin machines or crash networks.
Think about it. The pop is another browser window. That window only resides on your machine. The worst that could happen is you would walk away and eventually you would run out of virtual memory. A reboot would resolve this.
The bad thing about virtual pop ups is that if a person is forced to reboot they could lose data.
It won't ruin machines or crash networks.
If he did that, I think the penalty should be more than beingA link he provided was one of those "ever-multiplying links" that
uses Java-script (or something) to keep creating new windows
automatically.
It shouldn't cause any permanent harm. But it was difficult on my
machine to stop the process, and I had to reboot. I didn't lose
any data, but it's certainly possible that somebody who paniced and
hadn't saved data in spreadsheets, etc. could've lost some work.
banned from this site. That sort of thing is illegal and violates
federal law. Some of us know how to deal with that sort of popup
intrusion, but many do not and those popus may lurk there and ruin
people's machines and networks.
John
--I have missed this, how could he be messing up peoples machines?
The Lowest Paid Concert Photographer Around
http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Yes, this is ON-TOPIC!
John Davis
Senior Member
Not true. There are ActiveX and JavaScript popus that may take control of one's machine. Maybe not yours if you took the proper precautions and act properly...Yes self replicating pop-ups are bad. And they spread bad Karma.
They will not however; ruin anyones machine or crash a network.
Think about it. The pop is another browser window. That window only
resides on your machine. The worst that could happen is you would
walk away and eventually you would run out of virtual memory. A
reboot would resolve this.
John
The bad thing about virtual pop ups is that if a person is forced
to reboot they could lose data.
It won't ruin machines or crash networks.
If he did that, I think the penalty should be more than beingA link he provided was one of those "ever-multiplying links" that
uses Java-script (or something) to keep creating new windows
automatically.
It shouldn't cause any permanent harm. But it was difficult on my
machine to stop the process, and I had to reboot. I didn't lose
any data, but it's certainly possible that somebody who paniced and
hadn't saved data in spreadsheets, etc. could've lost some work.
banned from this site. That sort of thing is illegal and violates
federal law. Some of us know how to deal with that sort of popup
intrusion, but many do not and those popus may lurk there and ruin
people's machines and networks.
John
--I have missed this, how could he be messing up peoples machines?
The Lowest Paid Concert Photographer Around
http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Yes, this is ON-TOPIC!
Mishkin™
Leading Member
I figured out that thing here:That sort of thing is illegal and violates
federal law.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=5447534
As you can see from the script, this thing is a pure joke. It doesn't do any harm to computer, nor does it spread out and cause network congestion.
When I posted the link, I didn't know what it will do to other computers. Legally speaking, it's YOUR responsibility when you click a link on the internet. I didn't send it via email. And in no way I could anticipate how other computers will react to this.
Everyone who types "you are an idiot" in Google, will find this link, it's 4th link from the top.
"illegal and violates federal law"? Gimme a break!
Robert Vance
Forum Enthusiast
If you respected Phil or anyone…
There’s NO excuse for what he did.
He is Not a newbie.
He knows better, so why should he be above forum protocol.
Should Phil play “favorites” and let him now to re-enter with the (same) new moniker?
This is why this forum is not respected as Rob’s or Fred’s is.
This forum, with the help of Mishkin(2) is really more of a chat room now that ONLY the OLD cronnies can appreciate.
Under what basis did you think this is appropriate?
There should be no tolerance for your malicious “humor”.
Mishkin, it’s time to be a man now & do the right thing – LEAVE .
This is worse than any flaming/trolling. Now that you gotten away with this, what’s next – worms or viruses?
At least mini-me was harmless.
There’s NO excuse for what he did.
He is Not a newbie.
He knows better, so why should he be above forum protocol.
Should Phil play “favorites” and let him now to re-enter with the (same) new moniker?
This is why this forum is not respected as Rob’s or Fred’s is.
This forum, with the help of Mishkin(2) is really more of a chat room now that ONLY the OLD cronnies can appreciate.
Under what basis did you think this is appropriate?
There should be no tolerance for your malicious “humor”.
Mishkin, it’s time to be a man now & do the right thing – LEAVE .
This is worse than any flaming/trolling. Now that you gotten away with this, what’s next – worms or viruses?
At least mini-me was harmless.
Mishkin™
Leading Member
on page load:
playBall()
on key down:
onKeyDown="altf4key();ctrlkey();delkey();"
(when you try to close, it says you are an idiot)
on closing window:
onUnLoad="procreate()"
(create 6 other windows)
Plus, it moves all windows on screen.
That's all this script does.
playBall()
on key down:
onKeyDown="altf4key();ctrlkey();delkey();"
(when you try to close, it says you are an idiot)
on closing window:
onUnLoad="procreate()"
(create 6 other windows)
Plus, it moves all windows on screen.
That's all this script does.
John Davis
Senior Member
... on top of that he is now excusing himself. It's sad how people go on as usual, with just a simple apology. There 's something like a price to pay for a crime. And yes Mishkin, now Mishkin2, what you did is a crime - no ifs or buts about it.
John
John
If you respected Phil or anyone…
There’s NO excuse for what he did.
He is Not a newbie.
He knows better, so why should he be above forum protocol.
Should Phil play “favorites” and let him now to re-enter with the
(same) new moniker?
This is why this forum is not respected as Rob’s or Fred’s is.
This forum, with the help of Mishkin(2) is really more of a chat
room now that ONLY the OLD cronnies can appreciate.
Under what basis did you think this is appropriate?
There should be no tolerance for your malicious “humor”.
Mishkin, it’s time to be a man now & do the right thing – LEAVE .
This is worse than any flaming/trolling. Now that you gotten away
with this, what’s next – worms or viruses?
At least mini-me was harmless.
Spencer47022
Forum Enthusiast
John, yes activex and JS can be malicious. However, it has nothing do to do with how many you get. One or a 1000. Virtual popups are driven by simple JS that keep pushing a popup window. Another then annoying they are perfectly harmless unless it forces you to reboot and you lose data. As standard practice all IE and Navigator users should always keep current on their browsers and upload any security patches as they come out.
Not true. There are ActiveX and JavaScript popus that may take
control of one's machine. Maybe not yours if you took the proper
precautions and act properly...
John
The bad thing about virtual pop ups is that if a person is forced
to reboot they could lose data.
It won't ruin machines or crash networks.
If he did that, I think the penalty should be more than beingA link he provided was one of those "ever-multiplying links" that
uses Java-script (or something) to keep creating new windows
automatically.
It shouldn't cause any permanent harm. But it was difficult on my
machine to stop the process, and I had to reboot. I didn't lose
any data, but it's certainly possible that somebody who paniced and
hadn't saved data in spreadsheets, etc. could've lost some work.
banned from this site. That sort of thing is illegal and violates
federal law. Some of us know how to deal with that sort of popup
intrusion, but many do not and those popus may lurk there and ruin
people's machines and networks.
John
--I have missed this, how could he be messing up peoples machines?
The Lowest Paid Concert Photographer Around
http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Yes, this is ON-TOPIC!
Mishkin™
Leading Member
John
If you respected Phil or anyone…
There’s NO excuse for what he did.
He is Not a newbie.
He knows better, so why should he be above forum protocol.
Should Phil play “favorites” and let him now to re-enter with the
(same) new moniker?
This is why this forum is not respected as Rob’s or Fred’s is.
This forum, with the help of Mishkin(2) is really more of a chat
room now that ONLY the OLD cronnies can appreciate.
Under what basis did you think this is appropriate?
There should be no tolerance for your malicious “humor”.
Mishkin, it’s time to be a man now & do the right thing – LEAVE .
This is worse than any flaming/trolling. Now that you gotten away
with this, what’s next – worms or viruses?
At least mini-me was harmless.
--John
If you respected Phil or anyone…
There’s NO excuse for what he did.
He is Not a newbie.
He knows better, so why should he be above forum protocol.
Should Phil play “favorites” and let him now to re-enter with the
(same) new moniker?
This is why this forum is not respected as Rob’s or Fred’s is.
This forum, with the help of Mishkin(2) is really more of a chat
room now that ONLY the OLD cronnies can appreciate.
Under what basis did you think this is appropriate?
There should be no tolerance for your malicious “humor”.
Mishkin, it’s time to be a man now & do the right thing – LEAVE .
This is worse than any flaming/trolling. Now that you gotten away
with this, what’s next – worms or viruses?
At least mini-me was harmless.
A Canadian in the US-EH.
John Davis
Senior Member
That is true, and that's why we have locks on our doors... but society also has laws and jails criminals, locks notwithstanding. This fellow, Mishkin (Mishkin2) has now the nerve to explain his little joke. Actually... I do not care, that would not have bothered me as i know better, but the large majority of members of this forum know noting about these things and it could have caused problems to them. CRIMINAL is the word, sad but true.John, yes activex and JS can be malicious. However, it has nothing
do to do with how many you get. One or a 1000. Virtual popups are
driven by simple JS that keep pushing a popup window. Another then
annoying they are perfectly harmless unless it forces you to reboot
and you lose data. As standard practice all IE and Navigator users
should always keep current on their browsers and upload any
security patches as they come out.
John
Not true. There are ActiveX and JavaScript popus that may take
control of one's machine. Maybe not yours if you took the proper
precautions and act properly...
John
The bad thing about virtual pop ups is that if a person is forced
to reboot they could lose data.
It won't ruin machines or crash networks.
If he did that, I think the penalty should be more than beingA link he provided was one of those "ever-multiplying links" that
uses Java-script (or something) to keep creating new windows
automatically.
It shouldn't cause any permanent harm. But it was difficult on my
machine to stop the process, and I had to reboot. I didn't lose
any data, but it's certainly possible that somebody who paniced and
hadn't saved data in spreadsheets, etc. could've lost some work.
banned from this site. That sort of thing is illegal and violates
federal law. Some of us know how to deal with that sort of popup
intrusion, but many do not and those popus may lurk there and ruin
people's machines and networks.
John
--I have missed this, how could he be messing up peoples machines?
The Lowest Paid Concert Photographer Around
http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Yes, this is ON-TOPIC!
Rune Moberg
Senior Member
With all due respect Robert...If you respected Phil or anyone…
You've been here barely a month according to your profile.
I've "only" been here for about a year, and wouldn't dream of policing this forum (other than the odd nudge when someone even fresher than I pops up). Perhaps you should participate more and spend less time worrying about other people's actions for a while?
Let mishkin's innocent (and it was indeed innocent, don't be fooled into thinking otherwise) joke serve as a reminder that some people need to secure their PC (or be way more critical when clicking on links).
As I've stated elsewhere, all I got when I clicked on the link was a blank page. It's not magic, it's called 'deactivating Active Scripting by default'. (also removes all those ad popups as a happy side effect)
--
Rune, http://runesbike.com/
Muzikman
Member
As a network and security analyst, I can tell you there was nothing illegal about what he has done (atleast in the Americas and Europe).
Jason 'Muzikman' Beam
Pittsburgh, PA
--That is true, and that's why we have locks on our doors... butJohn, yes activex and JS can be malicious. However, it has nothing
do to do with how many you get. One or a 1000. Virtual popups are
driven by simple JS that keep pushing a popup window. Another then
annoying they are perfectly harmless unless it forces you to reboot
and you lose data. As standard practice all IE and Navigator users
should always keep current on their browsers and upload any
security patches as they come out.
society also has laws and jails criminals, locks notwithstanding.
This fellow, Mishkin (Mishkin2) has now the nerve to explain his
little joke. Actually... I do not care, that would not have
bothered me as i know better, but the large majority of members of
this forum know noting about these things and it could have caused
problems to them. CRIMINAL is the word, sad but true.
John
Not true. There are ActiveX and JavaScript popus that may take
control of one's machine. Maybe not yours if you took the proper
precautions and act properly...
John
The bad thing about virtual pop ups is that if a person is forced
to reboot they could lose data.
It won't ruin machines or crash networks.
If he did that, I think the penalty should be more than beingA link he provided was one of those "ever-multiplying links" that
uses Java-script (or something) to keep creating new windows
automatically.
It shouldn't cause any permanent harm. But it was difficult on my
machine to stop the process, and I had to reboot. I didn't lose
any data, but it's certainly possible that somebody who paniced and
hadn't saved data in spreadsheets, etc. could've lost some work.
banned from this site. That sort of thing is illegal and violates
federal law. Some of us know how to deal with that sort of popup
intrusion, but many do not and those popus may lurk there and ruin
people's machines and networks.
John
--I have missed this, how could he be messing up peoples machines?
The Lowest Paid Concert Photographer Around
http://www.neonlightsimaging.com/artshow/final.htm
Photography -- just another word for compromise
Yes, this is ON-TOPIC!
Jason 'Muzikman' Beam
Pittsburgh, PA
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