Second day to test my new Canon Extender 2x III

Daniel L said:

if that suits you.... next time show me some 2x erratic flyers with consistency ... that would impress hell of me and i will buy you lunch.

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What's an erratic flier? These are model airplanes that can go 100-200+mph and pull 10-50g's. They are extremely erratic and very difficult to shoot.

You'd prefer something easy like a bird?







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Lee Jay

Doesn't matter if your object is going 200 or 300+mph. it's not hard for any decent action camera to track fast-pace subject because the AF is engineered to predict and calculate object going in straight path, constant speed with algorithm that hard to miss once it's locked. For photographer, you just follow the motion - not much of a challenge like shooting the big black cormorant against the sky. You and the camera would pick it up and lock the focus in with ease.

An erratic fllyer have no direction, take off is sudden and you can't predict the direction, vertically or horizontally motion and It happens in sub second. You don't even have time to think, or get the viewer finder lock in the subject. A few good example would be diving duck surface and take off, small hawk/falcon hunt for preys, shore birds in flight.

Sure, i can show you a few lucky shots to prove my point - Hey, i got it with 2x ! it's tack sharp but what's the point? 1 out of hundreds with no consistency just to win an argument is really what i do day in and day out? No, i don't use 2x for fast action unless i got no choice because it's unreliable.

I like the 2x III, it's brilliant piece of glass but i don't sell it to anyone wants an opinion if it's great for action - No, it's not.

and yea, that bird is easy because cormie behaves like plane.... but do try it with your 2x against grey tone busy background.

Lee Jay said:

Daniel L said:

if that suits you.... next time show me some 2x erratic flyers with consistency ... that would impress hell of me and i will buy you lunch.

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What's an erratic flier? These are model airplanes that can go 100-200+mph and pull 10-50g's. They are extremely erratic and very difficult to shoot.

You'd prefer something easy like a bird?

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Lee Jay

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Macro and Bird Photography

Daniel L said:

Doesn't matter if your object is going 200 or 300+mph. it's not hard for any decent action camera to track fast-pace subject because the AF is engineered to predict and calculate object going in straight path, constant speed with algorithm that hard to miss once it's locked.

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Straight path? You've never seen one of these fly. The paths are nowhere near straight, and they can out-turn and out-accelerate birds easily.

Daniel L said:

For photographer, you just follow the motion - not much of a challenge like shooting the big black cormorant against the sky. You and the camera would pick it up and lock the focus in with ease.

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I've never shot anything more challenging than these. They are fast, erratic, hard to follow, and totally unpredictable. Birds are a cake walk by comparison.

Daniel L said:

An erratic fllyer have no direction, take off is sudden and you can't predict the direction, vertically or horizontally motion and It happens in sub second. You don't even have time to think, or get the viewer finder lock in the subject. A few good example would be diving duck surface and take off, small hawk/falcon hunt for preys, shore birds in flight.

Sure, i can show you a few lucky shots to prove my point - Hey, i got it with 2x ! it's tack sharp but what's the point? 1 out of hundreds with no consistency just to win an argument is really what i do day in and day out?

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I get about 95% in-focus with the 2x.

Daniel L said:

No, i don't use 2x for fast action unless i got no choice because it's unreliable.

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I have a 100-400L, and it's no more reliable. Less, actually.

Daniel L said:

and yea, that bird is easy because cormie behaves like plane.... but do try it with your 2x against grey tone busy background.

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Here's a green-and-brown camouflaged plane against a green and brown background.



Not busy enough? How about this one:





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Lee Jay

Ok Man, You are one bad ass plane shooter and you blow BIF out of water with you super awesome planes shooting technique on 2x III. You just won the forum argument. Congrat.

Lee Jay said:

Daniel L said:

Doesn't matter if your object is going 200 or 300+mph. it's not hard for any decent action camera to track fast-pace subject because the AF is engineered to predict and calculate object going in straight path, constant speed with algorithm that hard to miss once it's locked.

Click to expand...

Straight path? You've never seen one of these fly. The paths are nowhere near straight, and they can out-turn and out-accelerate birds easily.

Lee Jay said:

For photographer, you just follow the motion - not much of a challenge like shooting the big black cormorant against the sky. You and the camera would pick it up and lock the focus in with ease.

Click to expand...

I've never shot anything more challenging than these. They are fast, erratic, hard to follow, and totally unpredictable. Birds are a cake walk by comparison.

Lee Jay said:

An erratic fllyer have no direction, take off is sudden and you can't predict the direction, vertically or horizontally motion and It happens in sub second. You don't even have time to think, or get the viewer finder lock in the subject. A few good example would be diving duck surface and take off, small hawk/falcon hunt for preys, shore birds in flight.

Sure, i can show you a few lucky shots to prove my point - Hey, i got it with 2x ! it's tack sharp but what's the point? 1 out of hundreds with no consistency just to win an argument is really what i do day in and day out?

Click to expand...

I get about 95% in-focus with the 2x.

Lee Jay said:

No, i don't use 2x for fast action unless i got no choice because it's unreliable.

Click to expand...

I have a 100-400L, and it's no more reliable. Less, actually.

Lee Jay said:

and yea, that bird is easy because cormie behaves like plane.... but do try it with your 2x against grey tone busy background.

Click to expand...

Here's a green-and-brown camouflaged plane against a green and brown background.

Not busy enough? How about this one:

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Lee Jay

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Macro and Bird Photography
http://www.danielslim.com

I have a 7d and 400 f.5.6. Very sharp results for birding and airshows without an extender but I recently changed my 2x mk1 Canon extender for the mk3 with a surprisingly big improvement. I only intend to take subjects within the focusing limits of this set up ie still or slow-moving on the odd occasion when I need extra reach but am impressed with the quality of the mk3. With the generally poor light of our UK winter I may not get the chance to use it much but it takes up very little space in my bag with the mk 2 1.4 ex (which may also be changed for the mk3 version).

Ouch! So that's what $5K worth of professional photo gear can produce?

I've used a 2X TC on the same lens and gotten beautiful results. This looks like some user error here.

I'm reasonably happy with it.







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If it's a *Single* Lens Reflex, why do I need so many lenses?

it is looking like an underexpose shots plus the focus too is a bit blur. I hope mine 70D when it comes can keep to the focus in the low light.

My 100-400mm was definitely better at 400mm than my 70-200mm f2.8L isII with the 2xIII on the 7D and after the hype around the TCIII I sent them in to be checked but not much difference was made. The 2x VI I had was actually a tad sharper in the center with a bit more fringing at the edges. I was hoping for better, It is OK in a pinch or on FF but I sold mine and have a tamron sp 2x now for when I need one. YMMV of course : ) I am waiting to see some tests of the new sigma 150-600mm. : )

After I keep shoots BIF or parking birds. now I can find how to quick catching focus for combo 2x III. these are latest photos.




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