A70 + accelerated CF card ?

vwDavid · Jun 23, 2003

Hi all,

I am purchasing a Canon A70 and found a great price on a standard 256mb Sandisk CF card, but after contemplating the purchase I realized that my new, faster camera, may indeed work better with an accelerated CF card.

Does anyone know how big of a difference an good quality Lexar, Viking, or Kingston CF card will make in a Canon A70 compared to a standard Sandisk card?

cheers

David

FinnL · Jun 24, 2003

Hi

I've allso got a A70, and the camera simply gets quicker ready for the next picture with a high speed CF-card. For instance: You can take more pictures in "Burst Mode". I've not tried a traditional CF-card - but the salesman recomended a high-speed CF-card (PQI High Speed).

Kenny_a60 · Jun 24, 2003

If you don't take burst pictures then theres really no point in paying a lot more for a faster FC.

Finn Lyngesen said:
Hi

I've allso got a A70, and the camera simply gets quicker ready for
the next picture with a high speed CF-card. For instance: You can
take more pictures in "Burst Mode". I've not tried a traditional
CF-card - but the salesman recomended a high-speed CF-card (PQI
High Speed).

--
Kenny
http://www.pbase.com/kenny12

Jon S. · Jun 24, 2003

The two things you will get from a higher speed CF are faster recovery from burst....my 128 mb Mr. Flash card takes 25 or so seconds to write after an 11 shot burst and my new Kingston takes about 12....or movies and it will be faster downloading through a CF reader into your computer. Right now I would not buy a CF at full price from a big electronic store. There are too many websites running big specials right now (my Kingston 256 meg cards were $25 each)

-Jon

Kenny_a60 said:
Finn Lyngesen said:

Hi

I've allso got a A70, and the camera simply gets quicker ready for
the next picture with a high speed CF-card. For instance: You can
take more pictures in "Burst Mode". I've not tried a traditional
CF-card - but the salesman recomended a high-speed CF-card (PQI
High Speed).

Click to expand...

--
Kenny
http://www.pbase.com/kenny12

Richard Homeyer · Jun 24, 2003

Jon S. said:
The two things you will get from a higher speed CF are faster
recovery from burst....my 128 mb Mr. Flash card takes 25 or so
seconds to write after an 11 shot burst and my new Kingston takes
about 12....or movies and it will be faster downloading through a
CF reader into your computer. Right now I would not buy a CF at
full price from a big electronic store. There are too many
websites running big specials right now (my Kingston 256 meg cards
were $25 each)

-Jon

Where did you find kingston cards at that price?

Jon S. said:
Kenny_a60 said:

Finn Lyngesen said:

Hi

I've allso got a A70, and the camera simply gets quicker ready for
the next picture with a high speed CF-card. For instance: You can
take more pictures in "Burst Mode". I've not tried a traditional
CF-card - but the salesman recomended a high-speed CF-card (PQI
High Speed).

Click to expand...

--
Kenny
http://www.pbase.com/kenny12

Click to expand...

Jon S. · Jun 24, 2003

I ordered them from Dell.com They were 50 something then I got 15% off and free shipping and they come with a $20 mail in rebate. There is a limit of something around 4-5 rebates per person/household, but if you don't need more than a gig of space it was a great way to go.

Richard Homeyer said:
Jon S. said:

The two things you will get from a higher speed CF are faster
recovery from burst....my 128 mb Mr. Flash card takes 25 or so
seconds to write after an 11 shot burst and my new Kingston takes
about 12....or movies and it will be faster downloading through a
CF reader into your computer. Right now I would not buy a CF at
full price from a big electronic store. There are too many
websites running big specials right now (my Kingston 256 meg cards
were $25 each)

-Jon

Click to expand...

Where did you find kingston cards at that price?

Richard Homeyer said:

Kenny_a60 said:

Finn Lyngesen said:

Hi

I've allso got a A70, and the camera simply gets quicker ready for
the next picture with a high speed CF-card. For instance: You can
take more pictures in "Burst Mode". I've not tried a traditional
CF-card - but the salesman recomended a high-speed CF-card (PQI
High Speed).

Click to expand...

--
Kenny
http://www.pbase.com/kenny12

Click to expand...

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vwDavid · Jun 25, 2003

Jon, can you still get those kingsotn cards? I just looked at dell.com and they only had the older san disk...

Jon S. said:
-Jon

Kenny_a60 said:

Finn Lyngesen said:

Hi

I've allso got a A70, and the camera simply gets quicker ready for
the next picture with a high speed CF-card. For instance: You can
take more pictures in "Burst Mode". I've not tried a traditional
CF-card - but the salesman recomended a high-speed CF-card (PQI
High Speed).

Click to expand...

--
Kenny
http://www.pbase.com/kenny12

Click to expand...

vwDavid · Jun 25, 2003

Just ordered a kingston card from dell, $32 after rebate. I was charged some TAX, is Dell based in Washington state?

thx

Photonak · Jun 26, 2003

vwDavid said:
Just ordered a kingston card from dell, $32 after rebate. I was
charged some TAX, is Dell based in Washington state?

They are based in TX. There's a list of states (about 5) on their site, that they charge tax in.

Regards..

S Crook · Jun 26, 2003

If you order through small business section they collect tax for all taxing states I believe, unless you fax/mail them a copy of your tax exemption certificate (if applicable). Orders through the Home section may not have sales tax collected by them.

Photonak said:
vwDavid said:

Just ordered a kingston card from dell, $32 after rebate. I was
charged some TAX, is Dell based in Washington state?

Click to expand...

They are based in TX. There's a list of states (about 5) on their
site, that they charge tax in.

Regards..

Alan Lau · Jun 26, 2003

Hi Jon, I saw the special offer on Dell too. I'm confused about the speed of that Kingston 256M CF. In its highlight it says the speed is 99,000. I don't know what it refers to. I also found it declares "3.5 MBps Media Transfer Rate" in its "256M CF + card adaptor" deal. Does it mean it's a 23.3x speed card? I'm lost at here. Could you help me out with your experience on the Kingston card? Thanks.

http://search.dell.com/results_data_snp.asp?seg=dhs&category=snp&subcategory=4325&subsubcategory=&headlineText=SEARCH%2BRESULTS&kwfilter=all&keywords=compact%2Bflash%2Bcard&resultsloc=&queryOffset=10&queryMaxHits=10&queryMaxHitsPerPage=10&numFilters=1&queryStartItem=11&SIM=&categoryOn=-1&tSummary=0&imageOn=-1&manufacturer=&availability=&price1=&price2=&keywords2=&filtercategory=&filtersubcategory=&ranking=-1&syssurvey=%2B&snpsurvey=&sersurvey=%2B&supsurvey=&abtsurvey=&surveyLU=True&c=us&l=en&cs=19&wf_1=&wft_1=&wfrl_1=&rlevel=2

Jon S. said:
I ordered them from Dell.com They were 50 something then I got
15% off and free shipping and they come with a $20 mail in rebate.
There is a limit of something around 4-5 rebates per
person/household, but if you don't need more than a gig of space it
was a great way to go.

Photonak · Jun 26, 2003

Alan Lau said:
Hi Jon, I saw the special offer on Dell too. I'm confused about the
speed of that Kingston 256M CF. In its highlight it says the speed
is 99,000. I don't know what it refers to. I also found it declares
"3.5 MBps Media Transfer Rate" in its "256M CF + card adaptor"
deal. Does it mean it's a 23.3x speed card?

I have observed the Kingston transfer rate (in a Sandisk CF reader) to be about a picture (1.2 MB) per second, or a bit slower. Should be able to upload lots of 1MB files to the CF card and read them back pretty easily, to test the speed.

I tried to lookup the PN from Dell, on a Kingston website. No luck. Called the TS an was told that the speed was about 12X.

By comaparison to Sandisk (w/o speed designation), the Kingston seems a bit faster in CF reader to PC over USB1. It also was a hair faster in the tests on this site. Of course, like other products, are you getting what was tested a few months ago? Most likely not.

Kingston CF's uses different controoller than Sandisk (which uses Sandisk).

I'm a little annoyed with the CF makers. They are selling millions of units and cannot agree on some designation.

Regards...

Alan Lau · Jun 26, 2003

Thanks for your info. I'll order the Kingston then. I do have a Sandisk card reader, which is a combined offer w/ my Sandisk 128M CF, and felt it's easier and faster to transfer images through the readr than the camera itself. The Sandisk card is not that impressively speedy to me. I also own a Lexar 12x 128M CF but just started to use it so have no experience.

Have a nice day!

Photonak said:
Alan Lau said:

Hi Jon, I saw the special offer on Dell too. I'm confused about the
speed of that Kingston 256M CF. In its highlight it says the speed
is 99,000. I don't know what it refers to. I also found it declares
"3.5 MBps Media Transfer Rate" in its "256M CF + card adaptor"
deal. Does it mean it's a 23.3x speed card?

Click to expand...

I have observed the Kingston transfer rate (in a Sandisk CF reader)
to be about a picture (1.2 MB) per second, or a bit slower. Should
be able to upload lots of 1MB files to the CF card and read them
back pretty easily, to test the speed.

I tried to lookup the PN from Dell, on a Kingston website. No
luck. Called the TS an was told that the speed was about 12X.

By comaparison to Sandisk (w/o speed designation), the Kingston
seems a bit faster in CF reader to PC over USB1. It also was a hair
faster in the tests on this site. Of course, like other products,
are you getting what was tested a few months ago? Most likely not.

Kingston CF's uses different controoller than Sandisk (which uses
Sandisk).

I'm a little annoyed with the CF makers. They are selling millions
of units and cannot agree on some designation.

Regards...

Jon S. · Jun 26, 2003

I am not sure exactly how fast it is in x speed...I will tell you that transferring a 13,231 KB file from my computer to the card took 1 1/2 minutes through my HP Photosmart Printer. I also checked moving it back also which took about 47 seconds. I am not sure what the equates to, but it is pretty fast! Hope this helps

As a side note I spent a while on the phone with the rebate people today to make sure that I filled out their forms correctly and didn't get screwed out of my money and they told me that if you order more than one CF all you do is fill out a single form and attach all of the UPC's and your receipt in one envelope and they will do all the rebates.

-Jon

Alan Lau said:
http://search.dell.com/results_data_snp.asp?seg=dhs&category=snp&subcategory=4325&subsubcategory=&headlineText=SEARCH%2BRESULTS&kwfilter=all&keywords=compact%2Bflash%2Bcard&resultsloc=&queryOffset=10&queryMaxHits=10&queryMaxHitsPerPage=10&numFilters=1&queryStartItem=11&SIM=&categoryOn=-1&tSummary=0&imageOn=-1&manufacturer=&availability=&price1=&price2=&keywords2=&filtercategory=&filtersubcategory=&ranking=-1&syssurvey=%2B&snpsurvey=&sersurvey=%2B&supsurvey=&abtsurvey=&surveyLU=True&c=us&l=en&cs=19&wf_1=&wft_1=&wfrl_1=&rlevel=2

Jon S. said:

I ordered them from Dell.com They were 50 something then I got
15% off and free shipping and they come with a $20 mail in rebate.
There is a limit of something around 4-5 rebates per
person/household, but if you don't need more than a gig of space it
was a great way to go.

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