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Family photo session: XT1 + 55mm (Pics)
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Ha, ha. Thank goodness for the 56 1.2. DOF is the one thing I miss from my 5DII. I hope Fuji is developing something similar to Canon's 135L. That is the one lens that I miss!
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Thanks! It takes some think skin to post actual images on this forum.
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Wow!!! I missed this. Any word on release date? That's awesome.New Fuji 90 f2....image from Fuji Rumours. That should fit the bill.
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Not that I have seen. They have a pic of the 16 f1.4 as well. When I am done, I'll have the 16, 23, 35, 56 and the 90 for my primes. Perfect system.Wow!!! I missed this. Any word on release date? That's awesome.New Fuji 90 f2....image from Fuji Rumours. That should fit the bill.
You probably mean "they have shallow depth of field". Do you?
This is to be expected from a 56mm 1.2, because it's optical path diameter is (56 divided by 1.2 = ) 46.7 mm, which is very large and produces a lot of blur. The upcoming 90/2 will have a very similar "blurring power" of 45mm. At its longest setting, the 50-140/2.8 will do ever so slightly better with 140/2.8 = 50mm.
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Pete, you may want to back down on this one. Seriously. It may be uncivilized from you to try to force your opinion down other people's throat under the disguise of logic and objectivity. Others disagree with your perception of reality and so what? That is just the way life is.
The earlier you stop arguing, the less bridges you are burning behind you, and the more psychologically acceptable you make it for yourself to see the other person's point of view and its value.
The earlier you stop arguing, the less bridges you are burning behind you, and the more psychologically acceptable you make it for yourself to see the other person's point of view and its value.
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Beautiful images Jeff! Really well done in capturing relaxed and natural expressions and mood.
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Au contraire, my arguments are purely logical, no emotions whatsoever. It may be uncivilized to answer in a rude manner as some did, but I didn't complain, I understand when people have nothing reasonable to say they start behaving nastily.
No disguise at all. I intended to have a logical discussion, never cursed or said anything demeaning to anybody.
I never asked anybody to agree with anything, I never asked anybody to believe me, as long as you have some facts and can apply thinking you can make a contribution. I asked a few reasonable questions, based on the material a person volunteered himself, expecting reasonable answers. That's called a discussion. If people are only comfortable having a discussion in a mutual admiration society then they could have bailed out. I find it amusing how some people are so easily inflamed with just a few questions. I wish I could see them going to a deposition, that would be quite a spectacle.
Have I ever complained about life? -- Nope, I enjoy it every minute. I haven't complained about this discussion either, it was truly entertaining
What bridges? Get real. Only lonely and miserable people would care about what somebody may think on some forum.
Hey, I tried to get to that, as you said 'point of view', but I couldn't get there in time, they started cursing
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Funny you should reply to my post, but since you did, and in a interesting tone, I will reply too.
The second problem is that so many bridges have been burned at this point, that every normal human being would deny having emotions involded, and that very fact would cloud their judgement.
2) You can't have a logical discussion with ANYONE when you discuss their artistic work, appearance, value, or anything that is closely tied to the feeling of acceptance.
You also asked them to admit that aesthetics are objective and not subjective.
Here and there, you say things that hints towards the fact that you are an intelligent person. I'm sure that with very little effort, you can put that power towards making your conversation pleasing to both parties.
Have a good night/day!
And therein lies the problem. You would have saved agravation to the other people if you had paid attention to their feelings and they would have replied differently, maybe even agreed with some of your assertions.
The second problem is that so many bridges have been burned at this point, that every normal human being would deny having emotions involded, and that very fact would cloud their judgement.
Most of the time, they start behaving nasty because of the emotions that rose in them for some reasons that could be linked to both what you said and how they perceive themselves.
1) You can't have a logical discussion with most people.
2) You can't have a logical discussion with ANYONE when you discuss their artistic work, appearance, value, or anything that is closely tied to the feeling of acceptance.
You asked them to agree to your rules : We talk logical and we don't care about your clients.
You also asked them to admit that aesthetics are objective and not subjective.
They did bail out. Eventually.
Not for them.I wish I could see them going to a deposition, that would be quite a spectacle.
Have I ever complained about life? -- Nope, I enjoy it every minute. I haven't complained about this discussion either, it was truly entertaining
Here and there, you say things that hints towards the fact that you are an intelligent person. I'm sure that with very little effort, you can put that power towards making your conversation pleasing to both parties.
The people writing on this forum are real. Their opinion has value and yours has value too. When shown respect and care (for their emotions), people will more readily open their mind to your opinion (and will expect you to do the same in return).
Well, it's up to you to better manage their feelings next time so that everyone can start seeing each other's opinion before the cursing starts, ha ha!Hey, I tried to get to that, as you said 'point of view', but I couldn't get there in time, they started cursing
Have a good night/day!
forpetessake
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That was a good one. No, I don't agree with everything said, but at this point I kind of lost interest, sorry. And all this discussion makes me hungry.
The second problem is that so many bridges have been burned at this point, that every normal human being would deny having emotions involded, and that very fact would cloud their judgement.
2) You can't have a logical discussion with ANYONE when you discuss their artistic work, appearance, value, or anything that is closely tied to the feeling of acceptance.
You also asked them to admit that aesthetics are objective and not subjective.
Here and there, you say things that hints towards the fact that you are an intelligent person. I'm sure that with very little effort, you can put that power towards making your conversation pleasing to both parties.
Have a good night/day!
And therein lies the problem. You would have saved agravation to the other people if you had paid attention to their feelings and they would have replied differently, maybe even agreed with some of your assertions.
The second problem is that so many bridges have been burned at this point, that every normal human being would deny having emotions involded, and that very fact would cloud their judgement.
Most of the time, they start behaving nasty because of the emotions that rose in them for some reasons that could be linked to both what you said and how they perceive themselves.
1) You can't have a logical discussion with most people.
2) You can't have a logical discussion with ANYONE when you discuss their artistic work, appearance, value, or anything that is closely tied to the feeling of acceptance.
You asked them to agree to your rules : We talk logical and we don't care about your clients.
You also asked them to admit that aesthetics are objective and not subjective.
They did bail out. Eventually.
Not for them.I wish I could see them going to a deposition, that would be quite a spectacle.
Have I ever complained about life? -- Nope, I enjoy it every minute. I haven't complained about this discussion either, it was truly entertaining
Here and there, you say things that hints towards the fact that you are an intelligent person. I'm sure that with very little effort, you can put that power towards making your conversation pleasing to both parties.
The people writing on this forum are real. Their opinion has value and yours has value too. When shown respect and care (for their emotions), people will more readily open their mind to your opinion (and will expect you to do the same in return).
Well, it's up to you to better manage their feelings next time so that everyone can start seeing each other's opinion before the cursing starts, ha ha!Hey, I tried to get to that, as you said 'point of view', but I couldn't get there in time, they started cursing
Have a good night/day!
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That was a good one. No, I don't agree with everything said, but at this point I kind of lost interest, sorry. And all this discussion makes me hungry.
And therein lies the problem. You would have saved agravation to the other people if you had paid attention to their feelings and they would have replied differently, maybe even agreed with some of your assertions.
The second problem is that so many bridges have been burned at this point, that every normal human being would deny having emotions involded, and that very fact would cloud their judgement.
Most of the time, they start behaving nasty because of the emotions that rose in them for some reasons that could be linked to both what you said and how they perceive themselves.
1) You can't have a logical discussion with most people.
2) You can't have a logical discussion with ANYONE when you discuss their artistic work, appearance, value, or anything that is closely tied to the feeling of acceptance.
You asked them to agree to your rules : We talk logical and we don't care about your clients.
You also asked them to admit that aesthetics are objective and not subjective.
They did bail out. Eventually.
Not for them.I wish I could see them going to a deposition, that would be quite a spectacle.
Have I ever complained about life? -- Nope, I enjoy it every minute. I haven't complained about this discussion either, it was truly entertaining
Here and there, you say things that hints towards the fact that you are an intelligent person. I'm sure that with very little effort, you can put that power towards making your conversation pleasing to both parties.
The people writing on this forum are real. Their opinion has value and yours has value too. When shown respect and care (for their emotions), people will more readily open their mind to your opinion (and will expect you to do the same in return).
Well, it's up to you to better manage their feelings next time so that everyone can start seeing each other's opinion before the cursing starts, ha ha!Hey, I tried to get to that, as you said 'point of view', but I couldn't get there in time, they started cursing
Have a good night/day!
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