Lithium batteries forbidden in air travel?

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Had a D7100 sent from HKG recently by air,it arrived clearly labelled as Dangerous Goods.

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Roger.
 
I just read this sign when making an air ticket reservation:



It seems they are forbidden from both checked and carry on baggage. I have 3 spare Li batteries for my D800E. I thought you just needed to have the batteries at full charge, but now it seems they arte forbidden altogether. Any feedback?
If you'd fill your bag with batteries that's one thing but having a camera and three spare batteries to the same camera is another. They may ask you to show that the batteries fit the camera and that they work, so keep them charged, but there is no need for panic. Everything contains batteries today, even my BT headset, GPS navigator and whatnot.
 
If you'd fill your bag with batteries that's one thing but having a camera and three spare batteries to the same camera is another. They may ask you to show that the batteries fit the camera and that they work, so keep them charged, but there is no need for panic. Everything contains batteries today, even my BT headset, GPS navigator and whatnot.
Exactly. If they'd prohibit all LiIon batteries, you'd end up leaving all of your battery operated equipment off board. Not just cameras.

Anyway, it is totally different story if you send the camera as a freight. When I sent my NEX 5N for IR conversion from Finland to US, I was forced to send it w/o battery.

And if you check the packaging of a camera when it arrives e.g. via parcel service/air mail, there is disclaimer saying that the package contains LiIon battery.
 
Don't know why all this debate - Jabs767 already told us where to find the rules.

Its the IATA that sets the rules. Just look it up there.

If you'd fill your bag with batteries that's one thing but having a camera and three spare batteries to the same camera is another. They may ask you to show that the batteries fit the camera and that they work, so keep them charged, but there is no need for panic. Everything contains batteries today, even my BT headset, GPS navigator and whatnot.
Exactly. If they'd prohibit all LiIon batteries, you'd end up leaving all of your battery operated equipment off board. Not just cameras.

Anyway, it is totally different story if you send the camera as a freight. When I sent my NEX 5N for IR conversion from Finland to US, I was forced to send it w/o battery.

And if you check the packaging of a camera when it arrives e.g. via parcel service/air mail, there is disclaimer saying that the package contains LiIon battery.
 
Go to a USPS office and try to post an Iphone and see what response you get.....

I tried to post back a faulty Samsung galaxy 2 back to hong kong and had to take the battery out or they would NOT accept it for mail.

Having said that I have beena round the world with Lithium ion batteries in my hand luggage for my D800 with no issues.
You are right, even here Australia Post will refuse to take any parcel with any device with Lithium-Ion battery in it.
One wonders how phones, laptops, cameras etc are sent from the factory to lands overseas. I am sure they use air froeight, not sea freight.
Exactly, even all those stuff we buy on eBay that come with lithium batteries get delivered by Australia Post. They can delivery the stuff to you but if you want to send it back, they will not take it. Weird.

I posted a lens yesterday that I sold on eBay and I was asked at the Post Office if there is any lithium battery in the parcel otherwise I would have to send it by road I was told. Now I am selling my D800 on ebay, I am not sure if I will have to post it without battery and send the battery by road. It is very confusing.
 
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> Don't know why all this debate - Jabs767 already told us where to find the rules.

Yeah, but this is the internet.
 
Don't know why all this debate - Jabs767 already told us where to find the rules.

Its the IATA that sets the rules. Just look it up there.

http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Documents/Lithium-Battery-Guidance-2014.pdf
If you'd fill your bag with batteries that's one thing but having a camera and three spare batteries to the same camera is another. They may ask you to show that the batteries fit the camera and that they work, so keep them charged, but there is no need for panic. Everything contains batteries today, even my BT headset, GPS navigator and whatnot.
Exactly. If they'd prohibit all LiIon batteries, you'd end up leaving all of your battery operated equipment off board. Not just cameras.

Anyway, it is totally different story if you send the camera as a freight. When I sent my NEX 5N for IR conversion from Finland to US, I was forced to send it w/o battery.

And if you check the packaging of a camera when it arrives e.g. via parcel service/air mail, there is disclaimer saying that the package contains LiIon battery.
Well that clears everything up.....

Rags
 
The rule is that lithium batteries can only be in carry-on luggage. They cannot be checked.

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Researched on 9/11/2014

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you can use UPS or FedEx.
 
you can use UPS or FedEx.
Never tried them before I will have to give it a try, also I think their office is quite a driving distance from me. That lithium thing reminds me of: You are not allowed to use your mobile phone on the plane, it will interfere with the navigation and the plane might crash, but guess what? Now on a few airlines here, you can use your phone, no problem, it will not interfere and will not crash the plane and the planes have not changed much during the past years, it was all BS.
 
Don't know why all this debate - Jabs767 already told us where to find the rules.

Its the IATA that sets the rules. Just look it up there.

http://www.iata.org/whatwedo/cargo/dgr/Documents/Lithium-Battery-Guidance-2014.pdf
If you'd fill your bag with batteries that's one thing but having a camera and three spare batteries to the same camera is another. They may ask you to show that the batteries fit the camera and that they work, so keep them charged, but there is no need for panic. Everything contains batteries today, even my BT headset, GPS navigator and whatnot.
Exactly. If they'd prohibit all LiIon batteries, you'd end up leaving all of your battery operated equipment off board. Not just cameras.

Anyway, it is totally different story if you send the camera as a freight. When I sent my NEX 5N for IR conversion from Finland to US, I was forced to send it w/o battery.

And if you check the packaging of a camera when it arrives e.g. via parcel service/air mail, there is disclaimer saying that the package contains LiIon battery.
SVPhotography, correct and to make things even easier in Australia, today CASA (Civil Aviation Safety Authority - Australia's equivalent of the FAA) have released an App for both iPhone/iPad and Android that allows you to check what type of Dangerous Goods you have and whether you can carry it onboard or as checked baggage. This also follows the IATA Table 2.3.A.

Check the App store and search for 'Dangerous Goods, can I pack that' or go to www.casa.gov.au.
 
Go to a USPS office and try to post an Iphone and see what response you get.....

I tried to post back a faulty Samsung galaxy 2 back to hong kong and had to take the battery out or they would NOT accept it for mail.

Having said that I have beena round the world with Lithium ion batteries in my hand luggage for my D800 with no issues.
You are right, even here Australia Post will refuse to take any parcel with any device with Lithium-Ion battery in it.
One wonders how phones, laptops, cameras etc are sent from the factory to lands overseas. I am sure they use air froeight, not sea freight.
Exactly, even all those stuff we buy on eBay that come with lithium batteries get delivered by Australia Post. They can delivery the stuff to you but if you want to send it back, they will not take it. Weird.

I posted a lens yesterday that I sold on eBay and I was asked at the Post Office if there is any lithium battery in the parcel otherwise I would have to send it by road I was told. Now I am selling my D800 on ebay, I am not sure if I will have to post it without battery and send the battery by road. It is very confusing.
My question was actually a bit rhetorical. The reason I posted it was that we all know it doesn't apply to in-device batteries in cameras, phones and laptops etc. The thing with Lithium ion batteries is that under a certain size, as Jabs767 points out in his post, it doesn't apply to and if they are in a device it does not apply either. I am sure you can post your D800 with battery in situ, or with a battery cap on the battery and taped up so that the cap doesn't come off, which if it did come off, could therefore be open to short circuit and cause a fire.

I think that Australia Post and others, have just taken the directive to mean any lithium ion battery regardless of size or whether it is in a device or not and this is just plainly wrong. Like so many of these warnings, they just ban everything to make it easier for themselves when they do not really have to.

From CASA regarding Lithium-ion batteries:

This text refers to typically “smaller” lithium batteries which have a Watt Hour rating of 100Wh or less.

Portable electronic devices (watches, calculating machines, cameras, cellular phones, lap-top computers, camcorders, etc.) containing lithium metal or lithium ion cells or batteries when carried by passengers or crew for personal use, which should be carried in carry-on baggage only.

Spare batteries must be individually protected to prevent short circuits. In addition, each installed or spare battery must not exceed the following:
  1. For lithium metal or lithium alloy batteries, a lithium content of not more than 2 g; or
  2. For lithium ion batteries, a watt-hour rating of not more than 100 Wh.
  1. By keeping batteries in original retail packaging; or,
  2. By insulating the battery terminals by taping over exposed terminals; or
  3. By placing each battery in a separate plastic bag or protective pouch.
 
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You might look for a UPS or FedEx contractor. DHL is also a good package carrier.

On some flights in the US, you are allowed to use Wi-Fi but not cellular. With the new iPhone 6, you can make calls using Voice Over Wi-Fi.
 
You might look for a UPS or FedEx contractor. DHL is also a good package carrier.

On some flights in the US, you are allowed to use Wi-Fi but not cellular. With the new iPhone 6, you can make calls using Voice Over Wi-Fi.
 
In UK spare camera batteries can be taken in hand luggage but they need to be fully charged and the metal connectors need to be covered up by the battery cover.
 

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