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I'm thinking about it from a European perspective I spose, over here we tend to pay more of a premium on release but then get more of a reduction over the following months/year.
 
Adrian Van said:
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The newest SD cards (UHS-II) are well over 200 MB/s read and write (bus speed is 312MB/s). The fastest CF cards (UDMA 7) are limited to 167 MB/s. CFast (serial interface) used in some digital cinema cameras up to 600 MB/s but not compatible with CF.
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Reliability of SD cards? I have heard more stories on SD cards failing, than I hear on top CF cards failing as the bigger card is more robust. Of course, there is 2 slots of SD, so insurance of backup available is there..

Speed is not the only thing to consider why some professionals prefer the robust CF card.

Why did they not simply put dual SDs in the D810 and Canon 5D3? Having a CF slot has always been a favourite choice of pros for years. I admit not all pros though.
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Well considering there are far more SD cards in use than CF cards it makes sense to hear more stories of them failing. It doesn't' necessarily mean they are less reliable.
 
Jeff Klofft said:
Leo "Zoom" said:
Who cares about niches? It's just the right tool for the job. Like D700 was. Hope Nikon won't spoil this one with some stupid bug.

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First off I agree, I hope Nikon gets this one right from the get go. Products need to have well defined markets otherwise you can't sell all of our products.

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I'd argue that the way the camera market has evolved it makes sense to try and offer users a good number of options at the high end so that as many as possible can get the product there after.

The key to doing this AND making it pay is I'd say to have as much overlap in parts as possible rather than having to design and build each new camera from the ground up.
 
Good post, very informative. Stand by the pins thing, at work we have gone through at least half a dozen CF card readers over the years, no problem with the SD.
 
Yes, as a D300 user with experience with D3 and D700, I would like at least a D300 body and controls with the technical specs of the announced D750.

Maybe, I should rather save for a D810, but it will take more time ...
 
Looks like Nikon finally delivered it for you guys. So are we going to see a rush of takers? I'm actually a little tempted myself. :)
 
physguy88 said:
Looks like Nikon finally delivered it for you guys. So are we going to see a rush of takers? I'm actually a little tempted myself. :)
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Sounds more and more like it will have a D6x0 class body and controls. So NOT a D700 successor unless "successor" means cheaper and lower quality, just with newer specs.

6.5fps "action" camera being released the same season as Canon's >>10<<fps "sports" camera?! I have not been so depressed about Nkon's direction since before the D300/D3. What are they THINKING?!
 
Many pros were using the D700 back in the day. While it might not have designated as "pro" by Nikon it had features that served many of the needs of pros in a smaller body. The Canon 5d MK3 is used by many pros even though it might not be a "flagship" pro body.

My issue with Nikon is the inconsistency. I now have to carry three types of card readers(including XQD for my D4s) and three types of cards. 1dx standardized on dual CF slots.


brunobarolo said:
Joe Tam said:
Can anyone explain why Nikon put dual SD on a "pro" body? Many professionals prefer CF for many reasons. Even the upcoming 7d mk 2 has cf option.
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I doubt Nikon will classify the D750 as a "pro" body.
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sandy b said:
Where did you see a price, I saw 2200 someone posted on NR, that seems a bit high.
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I'm just guessing like everyone else. Actually I don't intend to buy any new camera, this is just for fun.

So let me try some math. Bear with me as I go into Thom mode. If the rumors are correct, the EUR D750 is about 24% more expensive than the D610. The D810 is 34% more expensive than the D610.

But in the US the pricing doesn't scale the same way. The D810 is 42% more expensive than the D610. That puts the D750 at $2350 - $2700.

New products start on the high end of the scale so I'd expect the first D750 to be at around $2700 before it slides back down to $2350 by Christmas.

Now, the real chess match happens if Canon indeed releases their 7D-II but no FF sports camera this year. Nikon has the inverse product (no DX sports camera). As far as we know. What is the magic price to get D300s users to switch to Canon, or to buy "up" to the D750?

This is an intriguing business battle, at least to me because I'm a geek that way. The fact that none of my real dollars are on the line diminishes the fun not at all. I'll keep using my D7000 and D200 :-)
 
dylanear said:
physguy88 said:
Looks like Nikon finally delivered it for you guys. So are we going to see a rush of takers? I'm actually a little tempted myself. :)
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Sounds more and more like it will have a D6x0 class body and controls. So NOT a D700 successor unless "successor" means cheaper and lower quality, just with newer specs.

6.5fps "action" camera being released the same season as Canon's >>10<<fps "sports" camera?! I have not been so depressed about Nkon's direction since before the D300/D3. What are they THINKING?!
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nikon has a superb 24 mpux sensor in the d610 and now in d750. this sensor is very good (DR, noise..) and i am very hapoy to have a d610. the d750 soubds like a perfect dslr and i would buy obe, if i would't have a d610 or if i were not hapoy with the AF of the d610.
canon has released a 7d mark II and the crowd seems disappointed due to usage of d70 sensor. i think nikon is on a good way and i am happy that i switched half year ago to nikon. very nice lenses and FF cameras - very good dynamiy range ( shadow lift makes the difference for me)
i am haooy with the development and the models that will come in a few years will be a reason to buy a new dslr for me (look at the cameras that we had 5-7 years ago)
 
Joe Tam said:
Many pros were using the D700 back in the day. While it might not have designated as "pro" by Nikon it had features that served many of the needs of pros in a smaller body. The Canon 5d MK3 is used by many pros even though it might not be a "flagship" pro body.

My issue with Nikon is the inconsistency. I now have to carry three types of card readers(including XQD for my D4s) and three types of cards. 1dx standardized on dual CF slots.
brunobarolo said:
Joe Tam said:
Can anyone explain why Nikon put dual SD on a "pro" body? Many professionals prefer CF for many reasons. Even the upcoming 7d mk 2 has cf option.
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I doubt Nikon will classify the D750 as a "pro" body.
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When I heard the D750 name I thought the same, "this will have a D700-D810 like body!" But the rumors keep saying compact and light weight. If they sully the D700 legacy with a D600 type body my faith in Nikon will only wither faster than it already is.
We'll know soon, but while I was so hopeful upon first hearing of a D750, I am pretty darn disappointed comparing D750 and 7D Mk2 rumors. D750 is sounding like a D650 that no one was really asking for and Nikon seems to have no response to the the 7D mk2 and no response to many, many prosumer sports and wildlife shooters who want a D400. Sounds like Nikon is happy to market it as an action camera, but MARKET it only, because if they designed it to be an action camera it would look like a 7D/400!!


I know Nikon is under great pressure given their photo equipment markets lately, but I think they are buckling under this pressure, not being pushed to excel by it. So sad.
 
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Check out the Canon forums. They are less than overjoyed with the new camera.

I sold my D700 over a year ago. The D750 is a camera that out specs in everyway except possibly frame rate with grip and maybe not even that.

Did you really think nikon would bring out a $2500 camera that would have a better build than the $3000 D700 or $3300 D810?
 
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Adrian Van said:
LarsLeibgott said:
Perfect camera for enthusiast sports shooters, photojournalists, documentary photogs, and filmmakers. Sounds like it's got some "all in one" appeal. Exciting!
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No. A perfect camera for professional video filmmakers would have included the body of an D810 with CF card for fastest memory cards available. The Canon 5D3 has the CF card slot.

This camera although usable for professionals, but without the pro body and button configuration of a D810 is more suited for semi-pro and enthusiast market, however I am sure that some pros will buy it anyway (as first or second camera depending on intended career use). Going with a lighter body like that of the D610 with flip screen, makes it probably more appealing to the advanced enthusiast, or any pro or semi pro that wants to travel light or move around light.

I had hopes for this camera, but now the D810 might be more an update for serious pros for a rugged body with quick access buttons, which is important to many pros.

I am sure some of you would disagree. And some may agree.
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You misunderstand me. I don't mean that it sounds like an outright better video camera than a 5DIII/GH4, or that it sounds like a better photojourno camera than a D4, or that it's a better doc cam than a Leica, only that the rumored spec makes it sound like a really good mix of all these feature sets. It's not optimal for anything, but it sounds really good at a lot of things. For someone who needs durability AND pretty good video AND a deeper buffer AND really nice stills AND a capable AF system (someone like a photojournalist for a local outlet, who might shoot sports as well as general news as well as video for the web), this sounds like a very powerful tool.
 
I agree with you on the 5d3 mk3 hitting all sweet spots. It is a favorite of many of my news/magazine colleagues who suffered through 5d mk1/2 limitations such as bad af.

nikon still doesn't really have a camera that hits the sweetspots the 5d mk3 does e.g fast enough fps, pretty deep raw buffer, quiet shutter, cf card slot, great video, good af, big enough for my hands, enough megapixels but not so many that it slows down your workflow like d800-810 during deadline.

nikon cameras come close but it seems nikon deliberately hobbles the features so it doesn't compete with higher priced D4 series.


Adrian Van said:
brunobarolo said:
Joe Tam said:
Can anyone explain why Nikon put dual SD on a "pro" body? Many professionals prefer CF for many reasons. Even the upcoming 7d mk 2 has cf option.
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I doubt Nikon will classify the D750 as a "pro" body.
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The number one reason to put dual SD cards is that making the camera body smaller will appeal to enthusiasts and semi pro who travel and want a lighter camera. My guess is that Nikon sees a bigger market in enthusiasts and semi pros and photo journalists (not event / wedding pros) would may want a smaller body, priced between D610 and D810.

The advanced pro wanting CF slot with fastest memory cards available (faster than best SD) they probably think will just buy a D810. Of course, I am only guessing on their reasons, but would guess they would see a bigger market and better profit margin with this camera, and protect sales of the D810 for serious users and leave a reason to buy an expensive D810. If they gave it the D810 body, many photographers would just buy a D750, as 24MP fits the needs of many full time professionals (of course, not all pros), however, 24MP is enough for sports and journalists.

Wanting a D750 with a body/button configuration of D810 was perhaps too much to hope for.

Canon 5D3 got it right with enough MP for many professionals meeting their needs, and great choice for videographers and sports shooters. Canon 5D3 is still the number choice for serious pro videographers in North America if shooting with DSLR instead of bigger camera like Canon C series.

One can always shoot at lower resolution settings on a D810 if they want smaller files, however fullframe Raw is always very large files at 36MP unless using 1.2 crop or any crop the D810 allows.

The D810 or D750? Which to choose for next upgrade? At least there is a choice for a better than D610 now and price below D810 which is good for some.
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JohnMarhsall77 said:
6.5 FPS will be a deal breaker for many people. I suppose a battery grip will increase it (at much extra cost of course).

The approx price is 2149 GBP which seems a heck of a lot more than the D610 for better AF as the main advantage.

Really all this camera does is ahow how badly Nikon need a true D300s successor, especially given the rumoured 7DMkII specs (20MP, 10FPS).

I think Nikon saw a gap in their pricing and decided to fill it without really thinking if the market desperately needed the D750.
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from all of the specs I have read it is exactly what folks were asking for…D810 focusing, 24megapixels, same video capabilities, smaller form factor...

I still do not get folks clamoring for a D300s successor when there are so many great FX cameras that outperform any APS-C camera in focusing, megapixels, dynamic range, low light capabilities.

If I was in the Canon camp i would be outraged that they are offering this when they haven't even been able to improve the basic issues with their 5 year old technology sensors in full frame.
 
Joe Tam said:
I agree with you on the 5d3 mk3 hitting all sweet spots. It is a favorite of many of my news/magazine colleagues who suffered through 5d mk1/2 limitations such as bad af.

nikon still doesn't really have a camera that hits the sweetspots the 5d mk3 does e.g fast enough fps, pretty deep raw buffer, quiet shutter, cf card slot, great video, good af, big enough for my hands, enough megapixels but not so many that it slows down your workflow like d800-810 during deadline.

nikon cameras come close but it seems nikon deliberately hobbles the features so it doesn't compete with higher priced D4 series.
Adrian Van said:
brunobarolo said:
Joe Tam said:
Can anyone explain why Nikon put dual SD on a "pro" body? Many professionals prefer CF for many reasons. Even the upcoming 7d mk 2 has cf option.
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I doubt Nikon will classify the D750 as a "pro" body.
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The number one reason to put dual SD cards is that making the camera body smaller will appeal to enthusiasts and semi pro who travel and want a lighter camera. My guess is that Nikon sees a bigger market in enthusiasts and semi pros and photo journalists (not event / wedding pros) would may want a smaller body, priced between D610 and D810.

The advanced pro wanting CF slot with fastest memory cards available (faster than best SD) they probably think will just buy a D810. Of course, I am only guessing on their reasons, but would guess they would see a bigger market and better profit margin with this camera, and protect sales of the D810 for serious users and leave a reason to buy an expensive D810. If they gave it the D810 body, many photographers would just buy a D750, as 24MP fits the needs of many full time professionals (of course, not all pros), however, 24MP is enough for sports and journalists.

Wanting a D750 with a body/button configuration of D810 was perhaps too much to hope for.

Canon 5D3 got it right with enough MP for many professionals meeting their needs, and great choice for videographers and sports shooters. Canon 5D3 is still the number choice for serious pro videographers in North America if shooting with DSLR instead of bigger camera like Canon C series.

One can always shoot at lower resolution settings on a D810 if they want smaller files, however fullframe Raw is always very large files at 36MP unless using 1.2 crop or any crop the D810 allows.

The D810 or D750? Which to choose for next upgrade? At least there is a choice for a better than D610 now and price below D810 which is good for some.
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I guess the grass is always greener fits, cause everyone in the Canon camp is drooling for a camera that has the same performance in SNR to the Nikon's.

The D810 really hits all of the sweet spots…36 megapixels, dynamic range, buffer, focusing from D4s, build, and you can shoot DX at 16 megapixels, or 22 at 1.2 crop.

I wouldn't call that hobbling.
 
I have a D600. With this model available I don't see why you wouldn't pick it over the D610? Am I missing something? Have they not just obsoleted the D610?
 
Price only. About $500.
 
Bamboojled said:
JohnMarhsall77 said:
6.5 FPS will be a deal breaker for many people. I suppose a battery grip will increase it (at much extra cost of course).

The approx price is 2149 GBP which seems a heck of a lot more than the D610 for better AF as the main advantage.

Really all this camera does is ahow how badly Nikon need a true D300s successor, especially given the rumoured 7DMkII specs (20MP, 10FPS).

I think Nikon saw a gap in their pricing and decided to fill it without really thinking if the market desperately needed the D750.
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from all of the specs I have read it is exactly what folks were asking for…D810 focusing, 24megapixels, same video capabilities, smaller form factor...

I still do not get folks clamoring for a D300s successor when there are so many great FX cameras that outperform any APS-C camera in focusing, megapixels, dynamic range, low light capabilities.
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A: Some of us clamoring for a D300 successor have full frame cameras and see the advantage of DX for certain uses. B: There is nothing about FX that makes it superior in focusing. The D300 had the same focusing as the D700. C: sometimes getting a more reach and/or a smaller lens outweighs the low light/dynamic range advantages of a larger sensor.

Actually, looking at the micro four thirds and Nikon 1 sensor and looking at full frame, DX/APS-C is a very nice middle ground. There are a great many options these days and there are many differing strengths that each format allows.
 
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