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I just read this sign when making an air ticket reservation:





It seems they are forbidden from both checked and carry on baggage. I have 3 spare Li batteries for my D800E. I thought you just needed to have the batteries at full charge, but now it seems they arte forbidden altogether. Any feedback?
 

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alegator1 said:
I just read this sign when making an air ticket reservation:



It seems they are forbidden from both checked and carry on baggage. I have 3 spare Li batteries for my D800E. I thought you just needed to have the batteries at full charge, but now it seems they arte forbidden altogether. Any feedback?
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How recent is this? I traveled with 3 D800 batteries a week ago with no issues.

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if this is true then leave you cell phone, tablets, and laptop at home too. What airline is this from?
 
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Which airline was this?

These are the US government rules I found, don't think they have changed since 2008 - guess the airlines can add their own rules.

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I just did a screenshot to post it here as I was completing my purchase of the tickets online. I was surprised too, and if true then it means I'll be able to travel only with the Li battery inside the camera, no spare batteries. It even mentions fines and imprisonment, that's crazy. I'll give AA a call and inquire about this.
 
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You know there is a BIG difference between lithium and lithium-ion (rechargeable batteries).

The idea for the lithium battery was first introduced in 1912. The first lithium battery was made available to consumers in the 1970s and it was not rechargeable. Lithium metal was found to be unstable which is why a rechargeable lithium battery was never developed. Nonmetallic lithium was used to create a battery in 1991. This lithium ion battery was rechargeable and much safer to use than the standard lithium battery.

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/about_5454465_lithium-vs-lithium-ion-batteries.html
 
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Hopefully, a little common sense will prevail... I'm currently traveling with two spare EN-EL15 batteries in my carryon daypack. I do have the plastic caps on each battery - just in case they ask. I had no issues getting thru security in either outbound/homebound directions, but... each checkpoint applies rules just a bit differently, it seems. Note that I'm flying domestic - not international. I seriously doubt that you will have problems with carrying a reasonable number of spare Li-ion batteries.
 
There is a new restriction going into effect soon that affects "lithium metal batteries" (it's not clear to me on my 1st reading that this does or doesn't include lithium ion batteries - it's not our interpretation of chemical terms thaat count, it's theirs). The prohibition is against batteries "transported by themselves", meaning not IN or WITH equipment. Inside your camera bag is with your equipment, so you're OK. Just don't start up a bulk battery shipping business without following IATA rules.

It's easy to find search hits based on the keywords lithium, battery, and IATA.
 
Roy Kikuta said:
Hopefully, a little common sense will prevail... I'm currently traveling with two spare EN-EL15 batteries in my carryon daypack. I do have the plastic caps on each battery - just in case they ask. I had no issues getting thru security in either outbound/homebound directions, but... each checkpoint applies rules just a bit differently, it seems. Note that I'm flying domestic - not international. I seriously doubt that you will have problems with carrying a reasonable number of spare Li-ion batteries.
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From what I've heard, but I could be wrong, I think that they have to be stored correctly and I think that means having caps on them to avoid short circuiting and therefore overheating and causing a fire. Might be a good idea to put an elastic band around the battery and cap to prevent them from coming off in your bag.

The thing is, you have them in you camera so, they must be considered ok in the camera but not when outside the camera and the only reason for this would be because they may short circuit if not stored correctly, hence why I think the above is correct.
 
Go to a USPS office and try to post an Iphone and see what response you get.....

I tried to post back a faulty Samsung galaxy 2 back to hong kong and had to take the battery out or they would NOT accept it for mail.

Having said that I have beena round the world with Lithium ion batteries in my hand luggage for my D800 with no issues.
 
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tektrader said:
Go to a USPS office and try to post an Iphone and see what response you get.....

I tried to post back a faulty Samsung galaxy 2 back to hong kong and had to take the battery out or they would NOT accept it for mail.

Having said that I have beena round the world with Lithium ion batteries in my hand luggage for my D800 with no issues.
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Sure they will NOT air freight cameras or phones with built-in batteries, the last time I tried to post a camera I was made to post it overland - in this case by rail.

As far as lithium batteries concerned you must have it properly capped - don't lose that Nikon batteries cover, more importantly read the fine print - only batteries over a certain capacities are prohibited - most of our camera and laptop spare batteries are well below this capacities limit.
 
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I believe the issue is that baggage hold fire suppression systems are innefective against lithium fires, but the cabin system IS effective. Properly packaged batteries and batteries inside devices are permitted in CARRYON luggage.

I inquired with Anerican for a recent overseas flight. I have no information beyond what they told me.

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The carriage rules for Qantas are the same as issued by IATA (International Air Transport Association) and we (I am a Captain with qantas) allow the carriage of Lithium Ion batteries so long as they are contained within the equipment concerned like within a camera, computer, iPad phone etc.

Spare batteries with a rating of between 100-160W/h are allowed only as carryon baggage ONLY so long as the terminals are covered securely.

The main danger these days is from the larger batteries used by TV crews to power lights and the larger ENG cameras.

All the restrictions are published in the IATA Table 2.3.A.

I hope this helps.



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In the last few weeks I've travelled on 3 Qantas flights in Australia. The whole plane was full of Qantas inflight entertainment ipads - 300 (approx) of them all with Li ion batteries. Everyone on board probably had a smart phone. Plus many passengers had their own devices of other types. There was probably over 700-800 Li ion batteries on those planes.

I can't see them banning the batteries for carry on.
 
Just travelled from UK to Washington DC and back with D300 + batts + TG2 + iPod/pad. Never even had to show anything was charged, at either end, which surprised me.
 
tektrader said:
Go to a USPS office and try to post an Iphone and see what response you get.....

I tried to post back a faulty Samsung galaxy 2 back to hong kong and had to take the battery out or they would NOT accept it for mail.

Having said that I have beena round the world with Lithium ion batteries in my hand luggage for my D800 with no issues.
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You are right, even here Australia Post will refuse to take any parcel with any device with Lithium-Ion battery in it.
 
lanefAU said:
tektrader said:
Go to a USPS office and try to post an Iphone and see what response you get.....

I tried to post back a faulty Samsung galaxy 2 back to hong kong and had to take the battery out or they would NOT accept it for mail.

Having said that I have beena round the world with Lithium ion batteries in my hand luggage for my D800 with no issues.
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You are right, even here Australia Post will refuse to take any parcel with any device with Lithium-Ion battery in it.
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One wonders how phones, laptops, cameras etc are sent from the factory to lands overseas. I am sure they use air froeight, not sea freight.
 
Jabs767 said:
Spare batteries with a rating of between 100-160W/h are allowed only as carryon baggage ONLY so long as the terminals are covered securely.

The main danger these days is from the larger batteries used by TV crews to power lights and the larger ENG cameras.
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I would get too worried everyone. Your EN-EL15's are rated at 14Wh, they are nowhere near the threshold for the restrictions.
 
Lance B said:
One wonders how phones, laptops, cameras etc are sent from the factory to lands overseas. I am sure they use air froeight, not sea freight.
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