Fujifilm X-S1 On Order For An Old-Timer

While awaiting delivery of my X-S1 I'm thinking about 'must have' accessories and the two that immediately come to mind are the SD card and carrying case. Which SD card (brand, size, speed) and case (if you use one) would you guys suggest?
I regard Class 4 SDHC cards as the minimum write speed for a camera capable of recording 1080p, and as it happened, that's exactly what I had sitting around at the time.

As far as camera cases, it depends on your budget and priorities. Since the X-S1 is the biggest bridge camera on the market, you'll be looking for something that can fit a medium sized DSLR.
 
The X-S1 is a great choice. I've had mine since June and love it. To get started, I suggest using my settings.

P Mode, ISO AUTO 3200. These settings do very well in all light. If it's a bright sunny day the ISO will be 100. If it's very dark it will be 3200.


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Thanks for the reply nfp. Based on what I've been reading, I think that a 16GB size card should easily last me for a 2-week vacation/holiday (I'm not too interested in shooting video). It also seems to me that a class 10 card should be fast enough. Would you or anyone know if the XS1 can even take advantage of the (more expensive) UHS-1 cards?

Re a case for the XS1, I'm going to wait until I receive the camera and see how it 'fits' in my existing SLR (film) case.
 
The X-S1 is a great choice. I've had mine since June and love it. To get started, I suggest using my settings.

P Mode, ISO AUTO 3200. These settings do very well in all light. If it's a bright sunny day the ISO will be 100. If it's very dark it will be 3200.

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Thanks a lot for those tips ****; are those settings in conjunction with M-size and DR400? (keeping in mind that I may not yet know what I'm talking about)! ;)

ps. I really like your XS1 folio!
 
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Thanks for the reply nfp. Based on what I've been reading, I think that a 16GB size card should easily last me for a 2-week vacation/holiday (I'm not too interested in shooting video). It also seems to me that a class 10 card should be fast enough. Would you or anyone know if the XS1 can even take advantage of the (_more expensive) UHS-1 cards?_
No, the X-S1's memory card write performance is pretty slow. This shouldn't be a problem with most cards unless you want to shoot long bursts, especially if you'll be shooting RAW or RAW+JPEG.

This is from a reply that I posted about 5 months ago :
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However, i suspect that X-S1 can fully utilize write speed of blazing expensive UHS-I cards like SanDisk, Sony, Lexar ...

My Questions:

Considering the most extreme case (Continuous shooting RAW+JPEG L Fine), how much is buffer depth of X-S1 and what SDHC memory you suggest for a smooth buffer flushing and preventing write hiccups ;-)?
The buffer depth for your extreme case is 6 photos and then the frame rate slows to 1 photo per second with the fastest available memory card. I tested four 16GB SDHC memory cards in my X-S1 with a high enough ISO to make sure that a slow shutter speed wouldn't negatively impact write performance. These are the results after the X-S1's buffer fills and the write performance bogs down.
Sandisk Extreme Pro, 95mb/s write, 90mb/s read == 12 photos, 12 sec == 1.0 photos/sec
Sandisk Extreme 80mb/s write, 60mb/s read == 15 photos, 15 sec == 1.0 photos/sec
Sandisk Ultra 30mb/s read, 10mb/s write (minimum) == 15 photos, 20 sec == 0.75 photos/sec
Delkin Devices 163X == unacceptable, 5 seconds per photo.
I don't know what the Sandisk Ultra's write speed actually is, but it's obviously faster than the guaranteed 10mb/s minimum that Sandisk advertises. I can't provide a link to an article that tested the Sandisk Extreme 80/60, but I recall that the author found that it was only slightly slower than the Extreme Pro 95/90 and significantly faster than the rated 60mb/s.

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http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/53296752

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If you shoot only JPEGs, the sustained write speed will be faster than 1 frame per second, but you won't need a really fast card because the X-S1's memory buffer to memory card data channel is the bottleneck so you shouldn't have a problem unless you're using old, fairly slow memory cards. I didn't have any 45MB/s memory cards to test but I suspect that even those are overkill for the X-S1. On the other hand, I use Sandisk Extreme cards (80MB/s read, 60MB/s write speed) because they transfer files faster to the computer and they're a little "future proof", meaning that they're also useful in newer cameras that are faster than the X-S1 and can take advantage of faster memory cards.

These are sold in two-packs for $70, vs. the regular $38 price if they're bought individually.

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...sdxs2_032g_x46_extreme_sdhc_uhs_1_80mb_s.html

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If you don't want to spend as much you can get Sandisk's 16MB card that is a little slower (the same 45MB/s speed for reading and writing) which should also be faster than the X-S1's write speed and these are $16.95 each

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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/971534-REG/sandisk_sdsdx_016g_x46_extreme_sdhc_class_10.html

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I've also had success with fast Lexar and PNY memory cards, but you have to be careful to choose the ones that have fast write speeds. The advertising on the package or on the card often only states the read speed which with some cards can be much faster than the write speeds. I have some Sony memory cards that only show 40MB/s on the label but they're really only rated at 10/MB/s write speed, which is pretty slow.
 
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First, I bought a top-loading Lowepro for the X-S1 (the smallest one I could find that would fit it, a tight fit, with the lens stored straight down.) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001XE0P2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then I realized I liked it better sitting sideways in the case after all.

I happened to already have an insulated cooler to carry lunch in, something like the bottom picture of the interior of this, though I don't know about the exact dimensions: http://www.amazon.com/Durable-Delux...295&sr=8-9&keywords=small+insulated+lunch+bag

It's been very satisfactory.
 
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Thanks a lot for those tips ****; are those settings in conjunction with M-size and DR400? (keeping in mind that I may not yet know what I'm talking about)! ;)

ps. I really like your XS1 folio!
Thanks. Yes, M size FINE. DR is AUTO.

Film Simulation. I started with Velvia, but the reds seemed a bit off, so I now use Provia (standard).

In the Setup Menu; IMAGE DISPLAY = OFF, DUAL IS MODE = Shooting Only 2, FRAME NO. = Continuous (the frame number always advances even when you change cards, so you always know how many images you have taken.

Page 85 explains DR and Film Simulation.
 
Thanks photoreddi, that's way more detailed info than I expected (which certainly answered my question)! Btw, Amazon has good prices on very fast Transcend cards...

http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Spe...409242211&sr=1-18&keywords=sdhc+class10+cards

...any reason for me not to buy them for the X-S1?
Well, that card should be able to you get the maximum performance that the X-S1 permits, but it's not as fast as the "90MB/s" on its label shows. B&H sells the same card (for $18 vs Amazon's $20 price), but B&H's website shows that while it's rated at 90MB's for reading, it's only rated at 45MB/s for writing. I'm sure the X-S1 can't even write at 45MB/s so that won't limit the X-S1. But B&H shows two PNY cards, High Performance and Elite Performance and the better one is the Elite Performance version. It costs slightly more, $21 for the same 32GB size card, but it's rated at 90MB/s read speed and 90MB/s write speed. The High Performance version sells for $18 but it's rated at 50MB/s(r), 30MB/s(w). The 16GB Elite Performance version has the same 90/90 speed and sells for $13, and like the Amazon cards, shipping is also free.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/876410-REG/Transcend_ts32gsdhc10u1_32GB_SDHC_Memory_Card.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...p_sdh32u1h_ge_32gb_elite_sdhc_uhs_1_card.html

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...p_sdh16u1h_ge_16gb_elite_sdhc_uhs_1_card.html
 
First, I bought a top-loading Lowepro for the X-S1 (the smallest one I could find that would fit it, a tight fit, with the lens stored straight down.) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001XE0P2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then I realized I liked it better sitting sideways in the case after all.

I happened to already have an insulated cooler to carry lunch in, something like the bottom picture of the interior of this, though I don't know about the exact dimensions: http://www.amazon.com/Durable-Delux...295&sr=8-9&keywords=small+insulated+lunch+bag

It's been very satisfactory.
How did you know? Years ago I bought a small, very inexpensive "cascade RIDGE" insulated zippered nylon food storage bag (probably at K-Mart or Rite-Aid) for my Olympus C-8080 and that's still the bag that I keep it in. :)

For my X-S1 I used a bag that I think that Fuji only made available as part of an S100fs "accessory kit" that included an extended warranty and a CD or DVD copy of Paintshop Pro". It's a strong, very well designed leather bag that has the wider design of your Durable-Deluxe-Insulated-Cooler bag so I either store the X-S1 in it horizontally, or if I store it vertically (lens pointed up) it has room for other items, such as additional teleconverter or macro lenses on the other side.
 
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First, I bought a top-loading Lowepro for the X-S1 (the smallest one I could find that would fit it, a tight fit, with the lens stored straight down.) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001XE0P2/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Then I realized I liked it better sitting sideways in the case after all.

I happened to already have an insulated cooler to carry lunch in, something like the bottom picture of the interior of this, though I don't know about the exact dimensions: http://www.amazon.com/Durable-Delux...295&sr=8-9&keywords=small+insulated+lunch+bag

It's been very satisfactory.
How did you know? Years ago I bought a small, very inexpensive "cascade RIDGE" insulated zippered nylon food storage bag (probably at K-Mart or Rite-Aid) for my Olympus C-8080 and that's still the bag that I keep it in. :)

For my X-S1 I used a bag that I think that Fuji only made available as part of an S100fs "accessory kit" that included an extended warranty and a CD or DVD copy of Paintshop Pro". It's a strong, very well designed leather bag that has the wider design of your Durable-Deluxe-Insulated-Cooler bag so I either store the X-S1 in it horizontally, or if I store it vertically (lens pointed up) it has room for other items, such as additional teleconverter or macro lenses on the other side.
Actually, I would like to find a 'cross-body' bag that can accommodate (and protect) both the X-S1 and an iPad Air (when travelling). Until I find what I'm looking for I think the X-S1 should fit into my Canon EOS (film SLR) case as they are fairly similar in size.
 
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I've only just got into photography and opted for the x-s1.
Its just a big chunk of quality. Love it.

For the SD card I went 16gb sandisk extreme http://www.amazon.co.uk/SanDisk-SDS...TF8&qid=1409316144&sr=8-3&keywords=sandisk+sd

Plenty big enough storage and speeds.

For the case I went with the vanguard 37 sling bag after a lot of research. Its a great bag for little money, if you live in UK I can point you to where its cheaper. http://www.amazon.co.uk/VANGUARD-BI...1409316470&sr=8-4&keywords=vanguard+sling+bag

I wanted something that was quick to get into if an unsuspecting shot arises. Also not too big where you end up taking more stuff out than you need but big enough for other little extras. I wanted something that didn't look too much like a camera bag as well so people don't think you're carrying ££worth of tech.

Hope this helps.



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I like to have a spare battery with me when I go out with any of my cameras.

The worst thing is when the battery goes dead and you are in the middle of shooting.

The other nice thing about a spare battery is that you don't have to be constantly "topping off" the battery when you are at home. You just charge a battery when you have swapped it out with the spare one. No anxiety. I always use the manufacturer's brand battery, no third market batteries (even though others swear by them).

On the SD card, I've been using Fuji branded 16 gb cards without any problems for a couple years now.

Another option that will reduce the time you spend worrying about the camera is a UV or clear glass protective filter for the front of the lens. Easy to clean, no issues with scratching the front element, and so on. I guess the X-S1 has a front filter thread but I don't know what size it is.

When mounting the filter the first time, place a small piece of lens tissue on the highest point of the front element to be sure the filter glass does not touch it.

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I like to have a spare battery with me when I go out with any of my cameras.

The worst thing is when the battery goes dead and you are in the middle of shooting.

The other nice thing about a spare battery is that you don't have to be constantly "topping off" the battery when you are at home. You just charge a battery when you have swapped it out with the spare one. No anxiety. I always use the manufacturer's brand battery, no third market batteries (even though others swear by them).

On the SD card, I've been using Fuji branded 16 gb cards without any problems for a couple years now.

Another option that will reduce the time you spend worrying about the camera is a UV or clear glass protective filter for the front of the lens. Easy to clean, no issues with scratching the front element, and so on. I guess the X-S1 has a front filter thread but I don't know what size it is.

When mounting the filter the first time, place a small piece of lens tissue on the highest point of the front element to be sure the filter glass does not touch it.
 
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I also use a small lunch cooler bag. Works well.
 
Congrats on your purchase. I love mine and you certainly got a good price. I do think--as others have mentioned here and elsewhere- that the camera has a bit of a learning curve, but this forum has lots of tips and links to tips from other users. Enjoy!
 

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