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Few from the bike walk with my kids.

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ulrikem said:
Excellent stuff Andrey, I like the series a lot. TFS.
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Thank you!

A couple more pics - initially I was not sure if they match to the mood of the series, but now think that it is worth to share as well.



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Andrey,

Fantastic shots as always.

Though I was bold enough to crop one.

Just let me know if this makes any sense.



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Limburger said:
Andrey,

Fantastic shots as always.

Though I was bold enough to crop one.
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I was having the same idea - but wasn't as bold as as you are ;-).
 
ulrikem said:
Limburger said:
Andrey,

Fantastic shots as always.

Though I was bold enough to crop one.
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I was having the same idea - but wasn't as bold as as you are ;-).
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I think this edit is great! The only problem is that it doesn't match to the narrative formed by the rest of images.
 
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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Colors there were just mismatching and distracting imo. Probably I just better see graphics rather than color.
 
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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And that wasn't the question. The question was why? There must be some reasonable explanation, not some random or capricious decision.

A healthy human being has the ability to distinguish color information, and that was so important, pleasing, and valuable that despite of costs and trade offs associated with color processing compared to B&W, the demand for color cameras by far outweighs the demand for B&W ones so much so that practically all cameras on the market are processing color. Especially here on Fuji forum, where the importance of good color is so often extolled.

So in the light of that, it would be only logical to assume that there must be something really compelling to decide to deliberately downgrade the pictures to the B&W. I can't figure out any logical explanation based on those pictures. I know that all sorts of gimmicks are popular among the teens, for example, since they haven't yet developed good taste and understanding. But since I don't think it's the case here, I can't find any reasonable explanation. It looks to me a mistake in judgement and the pictures would have been much more pleasing to most viewers if they were in color.
 
No mistake in judgement but more a personal style.

Andrey is a far better photographer than I am. But I took a picture that for me worked better in B&W because of the colour of a persons vest that distracted and for the composition didn't work in colour.

Imho shooting with artificial light and candles, B&W can give a far better look than messing with the WB in colour.
 
forpetessake said:
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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And that wasn't the question. The question was why? There must be some reasonable explanation, not some random or capricious decision.

A healthy human being has the ability to distinguish color information, and that was so important, pleasing, and valuable that despite of costs and trade offs associated with color processing compared to B&W, the demand for color cameras by far outweighs the demand for B&W ones so much so that practically all cameras on the market are processing color. Especially here on Fuji forum, where the importance of good color is so often extolled.

So in the light of that, it would be only logical to assume that there must be something really compelling to decide to deliberately downgrade the pictures to the B&W. I can't figure out any logical explanation based on those pictures. I know that all sorts of gimmicks are popular among the teens, for example, since they haven't yet developed good taste and understanding. But since I don't think it's the case here, I can't find any reasonable explanation. It looks to me a mistake in judgement and the pictures would have been much more pleasing to most viewers if they were in color.

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It's pretty simple really. B&w shooters can be compared to an artist that draws using charcoal and pencil and color shooters can be compared to an artist that paints using acrylics, oil and water colors. And so for this particular series of photos, it's apparent that he felt like drawing. Just like for me, some days I feel like drawing with my camera and other days I feel like painting...

I hope this helps! :)

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Ashtyn01 said:
forpetessake said:
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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And that wasn't the question. The question was why? There must be some reasonable explanation, not some random or capricious decision.

A healthy human being has the ability to distinguish color information, and that was so important, pleasing, and valuable that despite of costs and trade offs associated with color processing compared to B&W, the demand for color cameras by far outweighs the demand for B&W ones so much so that practically all cameras on the market are processing color. Especially here on Fuji forum, where the importance of good color is so often extolled.

So in the light of that, it would be only logical to assume that there must be something really compelling to decide to deliberately downgrade the pictures to the B&W. I can't figure out any logical explanation based on those pictures. I know that all sorts of gimmicks are popular among the teens, for example, since they haven't yet developed good taste and understanding. But since I don't think it's the case here, I can't find any reasonable explanation. It looks to me a mistake in judgement and the pictures would have been much more pleasing to most viewers if they were in color.
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1drey said:
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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Colors there were just mismatching and distracting imo.
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It's a false premise. Where did you get it from? A normal, healthy individual is naturally attracted to colors, just imagine if all flowers were shade of gray. Color plays such a great role in human lives, and so much effort and cost put into the ability to reproduce it, so there must be a very good reason to discarding it. So far I haven't heard any.
 
forpetessake said:
1drey said:
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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Colors there were just mismatching and distracting imo.
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It's a false premise. Where did you get it from? A normal, healthy individual is naturally attracted to colors, just imagine if all flowers were shade of gray. Color plays such a great role in human lives, and so much effort and cost put into the ability to reproduce it, so there must be a very good reason to discarding it. So far I haven't heard any.
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There is already a vast amount of information out there on this topic, so I'm surprised that you say you've never heard of any reason to discard colour & opt for B&W treatment.

The reasons are many, and the topic has been exhaustively discussed since the beginning of colour photography. But instead asking others to re-hash it, the simplest thing is to do a search for: "use of black and white in photography"

Here's a site picked at random that might help: http://photography.tutsplus.com/tut...art-of-black-and-white-photography--photo-280
 
britcam said:
forpetessake said:
1drey said:
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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Colors there were just mismatching and distracting imo.
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It's a false premise. Where did you get it from? A normal, healthy individual is naturally attracted to colors, just imagine if all flowers were shade of gray. Color plays such a great role in human lives, and so much effort and cost put into the ability to reproduce it, so there must be a very good reason to discarding it. So far I haven't heard any.
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There is already a vast amount of information out there on this topic,
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Really? Is that why you didn't provide any?
britcam said:
so I'm surprised that you say you've never heard of any reason to discard colour & opt for B&W treatment.

The reasons are many,
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So it would be easy for you to name some, why don't you do just that instead of a stream of meaningless sentences?
britcam said:
and the topic has been exhaustively discussed since the beginning of colour photography. But instead asking others to re-hash it, the simplest thing is to do a search for: "use of black and white in photography"

Here's a site picked at random that might help: http://photography.tutsplus.com/tut...art-of-black-and-white-photography--photo-280
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"Site picked at random" -- LOL!

Here is a site picked at random for you, how do you like that?
 
forpetessake said:
britcam said:
forpetessake said:
1drey said:
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
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Colors there were just mismatching and distracting imo.
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It's a false premise. Where did you get it from? A normal, healthy individual is naturally attracted to colors, just imagine if all flowers were shade of gray. Color plays such a great role in human lives, and so much effort and cost put into the ability to reproduce it, so there must be a very good reason to discarding it. So far I haven't heard any.
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There is already a vast amount of information out there on this topic,
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Really? Is that why you didn't provide any?
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Because I have better things to do than participate in a meaningless ding-dong. Since nobody else has risen to your bait I imagine they think much the same ..

Good - back to printing ... in black and white!

forpetessake said:
forpetessake said:
so I'm surprised that you say you've never heard of any reason to discard colour & opt for B&W treatment.

The reasons are many,
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So it would be easy for you to name some, why don't you do just that instead of a stream of meaningless sentences?
forpetessake said:
and the topic has been exhaustively discussed since the beginning of colour photography. But instead asking others to re-hash it, the simplest thing is to do a search for: "use of black and white in photography"

Here's a site picked at random that might help: http://photography.tutsplus.com/tut...art-of-black-and-white-photography--photo-280
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"Site picked at random" -- LOL!

Here is a site picked at random for you, how do you like that?
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forpetessake said:
Ashtyn01 said:
forpetessake said:
EricWN said:
Guess some people prefer black and white to colour?
Click to expand...
And that wasn't the question. The question was why? There must be some reasonable explanation, not some random or capricious decision.

A healthy human being has the ability to distinguish color information, and that was so important, pleasing, and valuable that despite of costs and trade offs associated with color processing compared to B&W, the demand for color cameras by far outweighs the demand for B&W ones so much so that practically all cameras on the market are processing color. Especially here on Fuji forum, where the importance of good color is so often extolled.

So in the light of that, it would be only logical to assume that there must be something really compelling to decide to deliberately downgrade the pictures to the B&W. I can't figure out any logical explanation based on those pictures. I know that all sorts of gimmicks are popular among the teens, for example, since they haven't yet developed good taste and understanding. But since I don't think it's the case here, I can't find any reasonable explanation. It looks to me a mistake in judgement and the pictures would have been much more pleasing to most viewers if they were in color.
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