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Hi, I just want to have people's opinion on an $1,000 budget at this timing, whether it's better to go for a used SD1M (the ones from Japan are so cheap!) or a new DP2Q. Thanks.

I have been a DP2S user for three years and really love the Foveon color and image quality. I acquired a SD14 and three basic SA lenses (50mm/2.8, 10-20mm, 18-200mm) in April, and had some pleasing shots so far this summer. Now I'm ready for trying out a newer generation.

I've been reading all the reviews and comparisons between the M and Q generation, and they are really, just different, not comparable, in many ways. To me the biggest advantage of getting the SD1M is the ability of shooting ultra wide with the 10-20mm I already have. As for DP2Q, it might bring me back to the days with just a smaller camera to carry around (even though it's significantly bigger than DP2S).

Any opinion appreciated!
 
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Scottelly
If I were you I would consider the SD1 M. The Quattro would be much faster, but you're used to the SD14, and since you can handle the slow operational speed, I think you would prefer the SD1, especially if you already have so many lenses. You can always get a Quattro in the future, and then you'll have a nice back-up body. Your SD14 will be a back-up body, but you won't want to go to it, unless you absolutely HAVE to. The SD1 will be a camera you actually might use with your WA lens, which shooting other stuff with your Quattro body. I'm looking 1 to 2 years into the future here.
frankwwt said:
Hi, I just want to have people's opinion on an $1,000 budget at this timing, whether it's better to go for a used SD1M (the ones from Japan are so cheap!) or a new DP2Q. Thanks.

I have been a DP2S user for three years and really love the Foveon color and image quality. I acquired a SD14 and three basic SA lenses (50mm/2.8, 10-20mm, 18-200mm) in April, and had some pleasing shots so far this summer. Now I'm ready for trying out a newer generation.

I've been reading all the reviews and comparisons between the M and Q generation, and they are really, just different, not comparable, in many ways. To me the biggest advantage of getting the SD1M is the ability of shooting ultra wide with the 10-20mm I already have. As for DP2Q, it might bring me back to the days with just a smaller camera to carry around (even though it's significantly bigger than DP2S).

Any opinion appreciated!
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I vote for the DP1M. :-D
 
This is a question I am currently considering for myself. I don't have the funds in place yet, but getting there soon. I used an SD1 (pre-Merrill), and I liked the output, but using the camera was just difficult. So at the moment, I'm thinking that the DP2Q would be a better choice for me, and just keep enjoying the older technology for my lens collection.

-John
 
Or you could just wait and save up for the SD1Q.
 
I have considered that as well, Mike. It might be the best choice, but I'm guessing price will be at least $2200 USD. Not sure that's where I want to spend that much money!

-John
 
This is the part where I have to admit that I've never used a DP camera. I don't know if I'd like it. I did try a SOny A7 but did not like the smaller form factor. I prefer a DSLR and I love the image quality of the SD1M. I bought one from Japan with the 17-50mm EX DC OS lens as the kit lens. No seller in the USA could touch the price. I might add that my copy of the 17-50mm lens is really sharp.
 
manaskarekar said:
I vote for the DP1M. :-D
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Actually, I have thought about that. I have a Ricoh GR with the GW-3 21mm converter which also has 49mm thread that I can attach to the DP1M. That said, I already have the GR as a 28mm/21mm walk around option. (I know, the IQ is completely different level...)
 
I'm with John. I'm not a professional and probably wouldn't spend more than $2k for a DSLR body. And who knows if the $10k SD1 price will not reenact...

Also, a part of my mind keeps telling me not to skip the Merrill generation :-D
 
If I were you I would consider the SD1 M. The Quattro would be much faster, but you're used to the SD14, and since you can handle the slow operational speed, I think you would prefer the SD1, especially if you already have so many lenses. You can always get a Quattro in the future, and then you'll have a nice back-up body. Your SD14 will be a back-up body, but you won't want to go to it, unless you absolutely HAVE to. The SD1 will be a camera you actually might use with your WA lens, which shooting other stuff with your Quattro body. I'm looking 1 to 2 years into the future here.
 
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frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
I vote for the DP1M. :-D
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Actually, I have thought about that. I have a Ricoh GR with the GW-3 21mm converter which also has 49mm thread that I can attach to the DP1M. That said, I already have the GR as a 28mm/21mm walk around option. (I know, the IQ is completely different level...)
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That's interesting. I'm actually debating between a Ricoh GR or a DP1M at this point.
 
Scottelly said:
If I were you I would consider the SD1 M. The Quattro would be much faster, but you're used to the SD14, and since you can handle the slow operational speed, I think you would prefer the SD1, especially if you already have so many lenses. You can always get a Quattro in the future, and then you'll have a nice back-up body. Your SD14 will be a back-up body, but you won't want to go to it, unless you absolutely HAVE to. The SD1 will be a camera you actually might use with your WA lens, which shooting other stuff with your Quattro body. I'm looking 1 to 2 years into the future here.
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Thanks for the great insight. Although I can live with slow writing speed, I have to say that I've been just tolerating the SD14 poor controlling, not enjoying this part at all. I have used Nikon SRLs/DSLRs for almost two decades now, so... I just hope SD1M can be at least like Nikon's mid range bodies, two generations back, such as D80.
 
Hng said:
SD14 --> SD1M is a joy, waiting some time for Q matured, my 2 cents.
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Thanks, that's great advice. Yes I think I can wait for Q to mature ;-)
 
The IQ of the SD1M is much higher than your SD14, but it also has its drawbacks such as 15 sec write times. It also doesn't have live view so there's no way to check the accuracy of manual focus, as opposed to the DP series which does. But given that it's price is close to the Quattro right now it's still a better deal IMO because of its much greater focal length flexibility.
 
frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
I vote for the DP1M. :-D
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Actually, I have thought about that. I have a Ricoh GR with the GW-3 21mm converter which also has 49mm thread that I can attach to the DP1M. That said, I already have the GR as a 28mm/21mm walk around option. (I know, the IQ is completely different level...)
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That's interesting. I'm actually debating between a Ricoh GR or a DP1M at this point.
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Oh that's interesting, 15 seconds for SD1M, wow... I just timed my SD14 for a kitchen scene and the writing time is around 10 seconds.

Too late now, I just ordered a SD1M!!

Btw, also interestingly I found the SD14 wrote slightly faster on a SanDisk Ultra 30MB/s card than on a SanDisk Extreme 60MB/s card. With the Ultra the writing time was consistently below 10 seconds, whereas on the Extreme was slightly above 10 seconds. Weird...
 
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manaskarekar said:
frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
I vote for the DP1M. :-D
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Actually, I have thought about that. I have a Ricoh GR with the GW-3 21mm converter which also has 49mm thread that I can attach to the DP1M. That said, I already have the GR as a 28mm/21mm walk around option. (I know, the IQ is completely different level...)
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That's interesting. I'm actually debating between a Ricoh GR or a DP1M at this point.
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frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
frankwwt said:
manaskarekar said:
I vote for the DP1M. :-D
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Actually, I have thought about that. I have a Ricoh GR with the GW-3 21mm converter which also has 49mm thread that I can attach to the DP1M. That said, I already have the GR as a 28mm/21mm walk around option. (I know, the IQ is completely different level...)
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That's interesting. I'm actually debating between a Ricoh GR or a DP1M at this point.
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frankwwt said:
I'm with John. I'm not a professional and probably wouldn't spend more than $2k for a DSLR body. And who knows if the $10k SD1 price will not reenact...
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frank

I'm certain that the price will be reasonable, considering the price on the DP2Q. That can't be a mistake you make twice!

-John
 
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