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Being someone who is trying to decide which MBP is for me, I have read the posted questions and answers here and elsewhere. Much of the information appears helpful, some conflicting.

Is it possible to go to a Apple store with a card full of Nikon 45MB raw files, see how fast they download, discover any lag time when processing them in Nikon and Photoshop software?

or

Is the marketing designed to encourage people to purchase more processing power than they may need because of unknowns?

or

Are there any other alternatives to learning the information I seek?

TIA
 
Being someone who is trying to decide which MBP is for me, I have read the posted questions and answers here and elsewhere. Much of the information appears helpful, some conflicting.

Is it possible to go to a Apple store with a card full of Nikon 45MB raw files, see how fast they download, discover any lag time when processing them in Nikon and Photoshop software?
Sure. Bring a card or even a portable hard drive. Photoshop is almost certainly installed but you will need to install the Nikon software yourself. Bring any other apps or plug-ins you want to test.

You could even bring a bootable hard drive and boot off it to see how a new Mac would work with the rest of your apps.
 
Is it possible to go to a Apple store with a card full of Nikon 45MB raw files, see how fast they download, discover any lag time when processing them in Nikon and Photoshop software?
I don't know if Apple Stores will have Nikon Capture RAW and Photoshop installed on their machines, but you could probably do the "copy a bunch of RAWs from a card" part of the test.

All of the MacBook Airs and Retina MacBook Pros use PCI-e-attached flash for internal storage. Some posts say that the Retina MacBook Pros with the 1 TB flash option have the fastest flash speeds - but for importing RAWs, I'm guessing either your cards or the card reader are going to be the bottleneck.

The traditional MBP (hard drive, optical drive) might be a bit slower at importing because it is copying to a hard disk.
Is the marketing designed to encourage people to purchase more processing power than they may need because of unknowns?
No more so than marketing from any other computer vendor.
Are there any other alternatives to learning the information I seek?
Reading reviews / benchmark sites, or asking people who use these machines for photography work what their experiences are.
 
Here in Southeast MI the Apple Stores have been very accommodating in letting me bring in jump drives, card readers etc to test out speed, ease of use, software etc. I have however never attempted to load software on their macs. The store models have had PhotoShop CS6 extended, iPhoto , and Aperture so that I could see how fast or slow the programs respond to RAW files.

I can also say that when I was shopping for my macs I never had an experience where the sales person tried to up-sell me. In fact they've tried on numerous occasions to down sell me to save money! I have found the sales associates very helpful but try to find one who has experience with a photo back ground and give you some additional help/ ideas etc.
 
Being someone who is trying to decide which MBP is for me, I have read the posted questions and answers here and elsewhere. Much of the information appears helpful, some conflicting.

Is it possible to go to a Apple store with a card full of Nikon 45MB raw files, see how fast they download, discover any lag time when processing them in Nikon and Photoshop software?

or

Is the marketing designed to encourage people to purchase more processing power than they may need because of unknowns?

or

Are there any other alternatives to learning the information I seek?
I would think there would be someone here with both Nikon RAW files, a MBP and PS who could probably time it for you. Not me, but someone....:-(
 
Is the marketing designed to encourage people to purchase more processing power than they may need because of unknowns?
probably not - it is just a envelopment in progress. Over time the processing power gets better and better and even my 2005 Mac PRO Quad Core G5 was sufficient for all I had done in that time - and i guess i'd still be quite happy with it even now.

That said you can't have too much horsepower on a LapTop. The less you need the longer your battery lasts.

Many people claim the MBAs have a very long battery life - well - if you start editing images e.g. in LightRoom the battery life goes down dramatically - if you then edit the very same images in a rMBP 13 the number of edited images is significantly higher before the battery is flat since the MBA is throttling the processor much earlier due to heat dissipation reasons.

RAW files should be no problem with all the models you can buy - it is IMHO more a question of size and weight you're willing to accept. For me 13 inch is the sweet spot and I always get the maxed out configuration because you can't upgrade later on. I use my MACs normally > 5 years. In that time frame the features and possibilities change a lot.

My previous maxed out MBA 2010 had 4 GB Ram and 256 GB SSD and a Geekbench Result of 3100 - my current rMBP 13 has 16 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD and a Geekbench Result of 7200 - four years later - but most of all - it can do 4k video output, it has 2x TB2 and USB 3.0 and HDMI and the SSD is 4x faster and the battery life in real world applications is ⅓ longer!!

Within the current product line the performance difference is not so big between the smalls and the biggest possible configuration - yet the possible resale price differs dramatically.

There are dozens of professional resellers of used MACs - including ebay - the top configurations sell best - no wonder - but the even overcompensate for the extra payed investment at the beginning.

I sold my 2009 Mac Pro 8x 2,67 GHz for 38 % of the purchasing price after five years of using the machine. The smaller configurations would have brought maybe 25 to 30 % of the former purchasing price at a german reseller of used MACs

Additionally you have normally in the top configuration as much horse power as the entry configuration four years later - thus the time of using the machine goes up.

If you are use to shorter time frames gor for a lower configuration - if you're like me keeping your computers >4-5 years gor for a good equipped one - keep in mind: you can never have too much RAM - MACs consume easily 16 GB and you will notice the speed difference even with a very fast SSD - especially with PS and big files.

Fir me the maxed out rMBP 13 is the perfect combination of portability plus enough horsepower and with 2x TB2 and 4k support it is absolutely future-proof fr the coming years.

Go to an Apple store - the guys will address all your questions and help you judging what you really need - but from my perspective the maxed out configuration is the one that suits normally best for a long usage period - 4 GB of RAM in my old MBA was just too low - even though it was the maximum configuration that time - and it can't be upgraded!!
 
I have to agree with others here. I have never had an Apple Store employee try to up sell me. They don't work on commission (as far as I know); in fact, I've never had one even try to sell me the usual useless accessories. This includes experiences in Apple Stores in Beijing (all three at the time), Shanghai, UK, and the US.

I also agree that they may not allow you or any of their employees to install Nikon, or any other software. If you get a negative response to that, ask at the Genius Bar; they have computers sitting around and have a little more leeway. Just depends on how busy they are.
 

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