If you try to justify getting 1DX, then the answer is big NO for that reason. I don't recommend to buy it.
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Avobanana
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1DX sounds like overkill for amateur soccer. Having said that everything is relative, if you have tens of millions for retirement than it probably means nothing to drop 10k on a hobby. But judging from your hesitation, it doesn't sound like it will be a wise financial decision.
Like others have suggested, the 5D3 is good enough for most amateur sports occasions.
Like others have suggested, the 5D3 is good enough for most amateur sports occasions.
Hank3152
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Most everyone is advocating the 5DIII when the 1DmkIV is/was perhaps the best sports body available and a mint used one is a third of the price of the 1DX.
With the mkIV you'll have the finest frame rate, AF and reach combination making it a highly desirable sports camera, miles ahead of the 5DIII..........
However the 7D successor may be unveiled in a few weeks so that may be a viable consideration as well. If it's as good as rumored specs claim, i.e., new sensor, high ISO, latest AF and high frame rate, I'd even consider selling my mkIV........
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With the mkIV you'll have the finest frame rate, AF and reach combination making it a highly desirable sports camera, miles ahead of the 5DIII..........
However the 7D successor may be unveiled in a few weeks so that may be a viable consideration as well. If it's as good as rumored specs claim, i.e., new sensor, high ISO, latest AF and high frame rate, I'd even consider selling my mkIV........
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ASR45
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I try to, i rather have one good lens, that 3 or 4 crappy ones. 
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How does it compare with 5DIII and 1DX in ISO3200 to 6400? That seems to be OP's main concern.
Dimes
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Why is everyone suggesting to wait for 7d2? The author`s problem is the high level of noise on photos. 7d2 will still have aps-c sensor that just cant be physically improved significally. Perhaps, he will gain one "tick" of ISO in terms of noise, but that is basically it. Aps-c just cant be as noise-resistant as aps-h or FF.
Dimes
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First an answer to your first question: no, I don't. I can afford much more than I spend of photography. I buy what I reasonably think I "need" to get the images I want. I'd love to have a 200-400mm f4 with the TC on a fullframe body, but my 7D plus 100-400mm gets me 90% of the way there, so I settle for that in my wildlife images, for example.
Now for your second question, buying an expensive camera: I wouldn't go there. It is a lot of money for a few memories. I think your daughter would love to have a father with a healthy financial situation after his retirement. Or one that spends a bit of his retirement savings on a family trip instead of a very expensive camera. That might be a better way to create good memories.
As for the game: Do those last 20 minutes give you the most important memories, or can you get enough out of the first part of the game? Is it possible to take out the TC for that last bit of the match, resulting in less tight images now and then, but a stop of light extra?
Or is it an option to rent a camera or lens for a few matches now and then? Also saves a lot of money.
Bright Angel
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I buy the best I need.
When I switched to Canon, I wanted a 70-200 lens.
The best was the f2.8 IS version, it cost a lot and weighed a lot too.
But, I went for the f4 non IS version, it costs and weighs less and when using it with a tripod, the speed doesn't matter.
When I switched to Canon, I wanted a 70-200 lens.
The best was the f2.8 IS version, it cost a lot and weighed a lot too.
But, I went for the f4 non IS version, it costs and weighs less and when using it with a tripod, the speed doesn't matter.
Rick Knepper
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I have arbitrarily placed a $5k limit per camera on 35mm format equipment because I believe the additional and/or tweaked features beyond this price do not represent an equal value [to me] for the additional premium over the next best thing. If Canon were to build a 1D series camera to the $4999 price point, I could see myself desiring such a camera. If the long-awaited high-rez camera comes in a 1 series body and priced at $4999, I'm all over it. If it comes out priced like the 1D X, I will ignore it.
For my type of photography, I am not using the best equipment available. Medium Format would be the better choice. I have a greater tolerance for pricing when thinking about Medium Format and the Pentax 645Z has whetted my appetite like the 645D never did and the rest of this market is absolutely ridiculous. I don't see how Phase One and Hasselblad can keep a straight face when they talk with their customers.
So, no, I do not believe that a 1D X would be worth using on High School soccer even if it were my own daughter but then I buy all of my equipment from current income (or short term debt), and not from a retirement fund. There are probably many local pros who do not use a 1D X for action/sports.
For my type of photography, I am not using the best equipment available. Medium Format would be the better choice. I have a greater tolerance for pricing when thinking about Medium Format and the Pentax 645Z has whetted my appetite like the 645D never did and the rest of this market is absolutely ridiculous. I don't see how Phase One and Hasselblad can keep a straight face when they talk with their customers.
So, no, I do not believe that a 1D X would be worth using on High School soccer even if it were my own daughter but then I buy all of my equipment from current income (or short term debt), and not from a retirement fund. There are probably many local pros who do not use a 1D X for action/sports.
sgking
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Wow, I do top pro level sports photography (mainly Rugby in the UK) I would love a 1DX but can't afford that. I have two 5D3's one for 70-200 and one with 120-300 (Sigma Sport).
I am hoping that 7D2 is a reality and had great ISO performance, if it does appear I will get one pronto. Otherwise I'll be getting 1Dx next year once I have saved for it.
But like a lot of others here go for a 5D3 the AF is amazing (take time to learn it) and it performs great in low light unlike the 7D.
Thanks for all the advice. I believe the 5D mkIII makes the most sense.
sgking
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I'm not liking it I'm loving it! It's a great lens I find it as sharp as my 70-200 (2.8 IS MKII) I have the latest one the 2013 range. Good looking and great results (fast focus etc).
I used it at a rodeo I went to back in March (Message me for a link) My rugby work is for an agency so limited with what I can share.
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Simon
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Keith Z Leonard
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Of course I only buy what I can afford, otherwise I couldn't buy it! I do sometimes compromise price/performance, as many do, or we'd all have 10 cameras for different things...and tons of lenses, etc. I have a quite nice and solid ultra wide angle, but I don't shoot UWA a lot, so I didn't buy the "best" UWA (now that the 16-35 f4 is released) as it was 3x more expensive.
Rent one first? That's a big leap from the 7D to the 1DX.
I would be a lot cheaper to buy a Sigma 120-300 f2.8 lens than a 1DX, just a thought....you get back that extra stop with slightly more reach.
That's up to how you view them, how you print them, etc... If you build a "soccer book" for each year then I suspect your 7D images are good enough, if you want to view them on a large display or print posters then your high ISO 7D images might have issues. I have a nice 16x20 ISO 1600 print on the wall here from the 7D. I would recommend trying out some prints if you have not to see what the noise really looks like.
I have a few 7D images from ISO 6400 that are pretty good, but this fits my findings, ISO 3200 is where the 7D tops out for reliably producing good images. Great images top out around ISO 640 or so if viewing on a high end screen. The 1DX and 5D3 are certainly better, but you'll lose reach with your current lens setup. I shoot the 5D3 and it performs quite well for sports, so as has been mentioned it could be a great option for a more affordable sports camera. It's one the best all around 35mm sensor DSLR going, though the D810 from Nikon trumps it these days. The 6D is very good and more affordable if you don't need some of the more advanced AF features, but for shooting sports I think it's a hard sell to go from the 7D AF system to the 6D AF system, but it certainly can be done.
Of course, I'm sure most of us can relate.
hotdog321
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I'm a photojournalist using Canon gear. I recently upgraded my system from two 5D II to two 5D III bodies. I'm a rarity in that I can actually afford to buy 1DX bodies, but I just don't shoot enough action to justify spending twice as much. Instead I spent the savings (and more) on upgrading my glass.
The 5D III is a marvelous machine, but occasionally I do lust for more frames per second, 1D construction and advanced pro features. But those new lenses are just wonderful.
The 5D III is a marvelous machine, but occasionally I do lust for more frames per second, 1D construction and advanced pro features. But those new lenses are just wonderful.
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sgking
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Like you I wish 5D3 had higher FPS and more importantly a better sustained burst rate. Generally the FPS isn't too bad but the buffer fills too early in some cases. I have found (not surprisingly) that it is worse when set to write to both cards. If I need a decent burst I tend to have only the CF card present and make sure it is set to single card only! (just taking SD card out doesn't help).
Cheers
Simon
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With Photokina around the corner, I would not recommend buying anything that's in the latter half of it's shelf-life.
The 5DmkIII and 1DX are both over 2 years old, coming up on the magical 3 year lifespan. I don't own a crystal ball, but I'd expect them both to be replaced no later than 2015...and one of them could be replaced by Christmas 2014.
We already pretty much expect the 7D to be replaced with its 5 year shelf life...the longest lived Canon DSLR.
If you still want a 1DX or 5DmkIII, their prices will probably be lower after the new releases, or perhaps you'll just spend the same money on a brand new release.
The 5DmkIII and 1DX are both over 2 years old, coming up on the magical 3 year lifespan. I don't own a crystal ball, but I'd expect them both to be replaced no later than 2015...and one of them could be replaced by Christmas 2014.
We already pretty much expect the 7D to be replaced with its 5 year shelf life...the longest lived Canon DSLR.
If you still want a 1DX or 5DmkIII, their prices will probably be lower after the new releases, or perhaps you'll just spend the same money on a brand new release.
sgking
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Have to agree with this, unlikely that 1DX or 5D3 upgrades are at photokina but it is believed that a 7D2 (maybe different name) is on the cards. So if you can hold on for 20 odd days it may be that the camera of your dreams (and mine) is just around the corner.
If the 7D2 is about to hit the shelves I will be close to the head of the queue. I'll keep the 5D3's for weddings and portraits but bag a 7D for sports!
Cheers
Simon
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